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    And they build them for terrorists too according to you. Of course those guns (lol cannons) exist -- it's just that you think everyone can get them at a Pakistani WalMart (with a training certificate) in your Tom Clancy world.

    They could probably use a t-shirt cannon like the Coyote uses at Spurs games.


    Now look who has the grapple gun shoved up their ass.

    @ Chump thinking the terrorists can get surface to air missiles, AK47's RPG's etc. from the international arms trade but couldn't get or build something like that.

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    Now look who has the grapple gun shoved up their ass.

    @ Chump thinking the terrorists can get surface to air missiles, AK47's RPG's etc. from the international arms trade but couldn't get or build something like that.
    They're just going to saunter into a convoy of ships and shoot t-shirt cannons at a one of them without anyone noticing or doing anything about it.

    If Raytheon wants to sell to terrorist, OK.

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    They're just going to saunter into a convoy of ships and shoot t-shirt cannons at a one of them without anyone noticing or doing anything about it.

    If Raytheon wants to sell to terrorist, OK.

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    After your little tantrum I gave you multiple scenarios off the top of my head. You chose one to ridicule. Said it didn't exist, I proved it and shoved it right up your well worn ass.

    Quite honestly I think it much more likely that an Egyptian AF pilot would get religious guilt after the army shoots enough brothers and renegade and use his F16.

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    After your little tantrum I gave you multiple scenarios off the top of my head. You chose one to ridicule. Said it didn't exist, I proved it and shoved it right up your well worn ass.
    Grappling guns have always been a thing. Anyone who watched Adam West as a kid knows that. Cannons? not so much.

    Quite honestly I think it much more likely that an Egyptian AF pilot would get religious guilt after the army shoots enough brothers and renegade and use his F16.
    Again -- what would be the point? Members of the military have been swayed before and nothing. Anyone wanting to run Egypt will need the canal.

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    Grappling guns have always been a thing. Anyone who watched Adam West as a kid knows that. Cannons? not so much.

    Again -- what would be the point? Members of the military have been swayed before and nothing. Anyone wanting to run Egypt will need the canal.
    I'm not going to continue to argue this. It's clear the Muslim Brotherhood is not going to be running Egypt anytime soon. If they follow the pattern we have seen everywhere else the radical elements will go guerrilla and start blowing up . In fact, they have already started. I'm not claiming it's 100% that they would try to block the canal but you claiming it's not possible if they choose to do so is just plain dumb. Now go ahead and have the last word. I'm done with you and this subject.

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    I'm not going to continue to argue this. It's clear the Muslim Brotherhood is not going to be running Egypt anytime soon. If they follow the pattern we have seen everywhere else the radical elements will go guerrilla and start blowing up . In fact, they have already started. I'm not claiming it's 100% that they would try to block the canal but you claiming it's not possible if they choose to do so is just plain dumb. Now go ahead and have the last word. I'm done with you and this subject.
    Sure. The Brotherhood has been around for 80 years and hasn't ever done to the canal. The thing they really had going for them was all the goodwill they had in the public at large, serving the communities and like that. Violence was/is usually directed at foreigners and non-Muslims. The street would probably not look kindly upon the cutting of about half a billion dollars of annual revenue to the country. There are plenty of other targets out there.

    And with the way the canal works as well as the military and police presence there, hijacking would be really difficult to pull off. That's just the way it is. I guess you can hope a ship gets bombed by a renegade pilot so you can say I told you so.
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    How Louie Gohmert Is Fueling An Anti-American Conspiracy Theory In Egypt




    When Rep. Louie Gohmert floats conspiracy theories, Americans across the political spectrum tend to roll their eyes and ignore him. But one of his more feverish conspiracy theories about President Barack Obama’s ostensible ties to the Muslim Brotherhood could be fueling dangerous anti-American sentiments in Egypt and potentially complicating U.S. foreign policy in the region, experts say.

    For months, the five-term Republican congressman from Texas has been claiming that the Obama administration has been infiltrated by members of the Muslim Brotherhood who are steering U.S. foreign policy and emboldening terrorists.

    “This administration has so many Muslim Brotherhood members that have influence that they just are making wrong decisions for America,” Gohmert told the conspiracy-friendly World Net Daily radio back in April, in just one example of such claims.


    Gohmert’s remarks echo conspiracy theories put forth by conservative writer and advocate Frank Gaffney, who published a book last year led The Muslim Brotherhood in the Obama Administration. Gohmert appeared on Gaffney’s radio show earlier this year touting the Brotherhood’s influence on Obama.


    At home, where the political class takes Gohmert with a grain of salt, the claim has been confined to the fever swamps. Gaffney’s theories were so fringe as to get him banned from the high-profile conservative conference CPAC last year.


    But in Egypt, where the democratically elected Muslim Brotherhood government was recently ousted by the country’s military after the people turned against it, it’s a different story. Anti-American conspiracy theories are rampant there, for a variety of reasons related and unrelated to U.S. foreign policy, and hearing it from a United States congressman lends credibility to the theory that the U.S. is teaming up with the Muslim Brotherhood — and even Al-Qaeda — to destroy Egypt.


    “I guarantee you nobody in Egypt really knows who Louie Gohmert is or what he’s about. So they could very well point to this and say ‘Look! He’s a member of Congress. This must be serious. There must be something to it,’”

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    A court in Egypt has sentenced to death 528 supporters of ousted Islamist President Mohammed Morsi.

    They were convicted of charges including murdering a policeman and attacks on people and property.
    The group is among some 1,200 Muslim Brotherhood supporters on trial, including senior members.
    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-26712124

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    The court in Minya, south of the capital, Cairo, issued its ruling after only two sessions in which the defendants' lawyers complained they had no chance to present their case.

    Lawyers have accused the presiding judge of "veering away from all legal norms" and denying justice to the accused, our correspondent adds.


    They were convicted, among other charges, of the murder of the deputy commander of the Matay district police station in Minya.


    Some 147 suspects were in court for the trial - the others were convicted in absentia, reports say.


    The court also acquitted 16 other defendants.


    The attacks took place in August after security forces broke up two camps of pro-Morsi supporters in Cairo, killing hundreds of people.
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    Morsi never did anything this radical:

    An Egyptian court here on Monday sentenced to death the spiritual leader of the Muslim Brotherhood and more than 680 other people after a swift mass trial on charges of inciting or committing acts of violence that led to the destruction of a police station and the killing of an officer.

    The verdict, after a trial lasting only a few minutes, came just a month after the same judge drew condemnation from around the world for sentencing 529 other people to death in a similarly lightning-fast mass trial. The judge, Sayedd Yousef, affirmed the death sentences Monday of about 40 of the defendants in that mass trial and commuted the others to life in prison, which is understood here to mean 25 years.
    http://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/29/wo...088400000&_r=2

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    Sounds like Judge Yousef is trying destroy the Mooslim brudderhoot, very probably with US support.

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    A stable Egypt is a predictable Egypt.

    This is a big foreign policy realization especially after Sadam, Gaddafii and now Asssad.

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    There's as much reason to presume suppressing the Muslim Brotherhood will contribute to instability. The mass show trials could backfire.

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    There's as much reason to presume suppressing the Muslim Brotherhood will contribute to instability. The mass show trials could backfire.
    I would have thought the instability would have already happened. The brazen crackdown while the Egyptian on the street was feeling like another protest. Seemingly the military is putting the noose on.

    We will see.

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    There's as much reason to presume suppressing the Muslim Brotherhood will contribute to instability. The mass show trials could backfire.
    In their culture, yes, it could backfire. However, I have a feeling that killing these terrorists will still be the better move.

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    However, I have a feeling that killing these terrorists will still be the better move.
    I'm from Missouri. What acts of overt terrorism can be laid at the feet of the Muslim Brotherhood of Egypt and those just condemned to die?

    Be specific, if you can.

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    unleashing thugs on non-violent protesters is thuggishness for sure, but is it terrorism?

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    "overt terrorism can be laid at the feet of the Muslim Brotherhood of Egypt"

    Participating in a military parade, MB slaughtered Sadat and others on the reviewing stand.



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    sure about that?

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    Egyptian Islamic Jihad is sort of an offshoot, isn't it?

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    are there examples on ongoing terrorist activity by the Muslim Brotherhood since the killing of Sadat?

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    you know, something to justify executing members more or less willy-nilly.

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    are there examples on ongoing terrorist activity by the Muslim Brotherhood since the killing of Sadat?
    It's a murky world, as related by ins utional liars like CIA/NSA, but MB has been implicated in jihadism all over the planet. Considered "by some (c) dubya" to be a decades-long fountainhead of Muslim terrorism. That's why I'm sure US's umbrage is bull , while the US anti-terrorist departments are actually thrilled to have MB massacred.

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    I'm from Missouri. What acts of overt terrorism can be laid at the feet of the Muslim Brotherhood of Egypt and those just condemned to die?

    Be specific, if you can.
    Sorry, I'm not going to search for past events. Do you so readily forget the past?

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    you know, something to justify executing members more or less willy-nilly.
    Believe as you wish. I think it sends a strong message.

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