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I've been guilty of providing my stance in a very poor manner in this thread. I'll put together a post with were my stance is worded in a better way.
The only reason I give you flack is because it seems to me like you do, but hey it's not like I know anything more about Wal-Mart than I shop there. I just tried to fill in the whites of the counter points. I like Wal-Mart, they've been good to me.
I've been guilty of providing my stance in a very poor manner in this thread. I'll put together a post with were my stance is worded in a better way.
The Kudos are in an end cap display on aisle 5.they will get kudos. But they have not earned them yet.
So how many stores do you buy from, purchase all their goods from foreign companies who pay their workers and provide them with healthcare equal to that of the US? Why should any company that deals with US companies be forced to pay US wages or provide US level healthcare?
Chris, I go to extended measures to buy American as much as possible to this level. I think there was a therad in here on the subject back around the end of November when I was talking about Buy Nothing Day.
So the business should be niiiiice. Ohhh ok....If you're going to hire someone for part time work, then work them part time. Don't hire someone under the false name of part-time if you're going to work them 39 hours a week on a regular basis - if that's the case, then you must need them full-time, so don't be a jerk and refuse them benefits when you need the work they do.
I still dont see how, they should be obligated to hire these part timers full time.
Once again, maybe they DONT need em full time.
So you don't want people telling you what your standards should be, but then you want to tell a business what their's should be? I get it. Even when a comapny tries something that might be good for the community, it's not good enough.
"No, I want these measures taken to be a standard."
Yeah, they should go bankrupt trying every cutting edge advancment there is just to please you into feeling self rightous when you toss that pack of Mac and Cheese in your basket.
Well then, I guess that makes you a good person.
It must take you a long time to shop then!
If they want my money? YES
They can do whatever they want, but if I don't agree with it they won't get my money.
Yeah, it is not good enough yet. Once again, if they want my money they will do more.Even when a comapny tries something that might be good for the community, it's not good enough.
They don't have to do a damn thing, Chris. But unless they do things my way, they will not get my money.Yeah, they should go bankrupt trying every cutting edge advancment there is just to please you into feeling self rightous when you toss that pack of Mac and Cheese in your basket.
Living standards in the USA are far different than living standards in China for example. To expect the same wages to be paid and the same benefits be offered shows very little understanding of the global marketplace.
No, it makes me a person who keeps their standards.
We've been through this before. Am I the only one that remembers old threads? I don't want same standards. I know some dude in a place where their currency is 200 to 1 Dollar isn't going to get paid an 8 dollar an hour wage.
But sweatshop conditions are wrong in my eyes.
It does. You walk into a place like American Eagle and you find that maybe one shirt in the store is American.It must take you a long time to shop then!
I will buy from places that make things overseas in fair labor conditions. For example, The Gap now goes to great lengths to ensure its clothes are not made in sweatshops.
We've been through this before. Am I the only one that remembers old threads? I don't want same standards. I know some dude in a place where their currency is 200 to 1 Dollar isn't going to get paid an 8 dollar an hour wage.
But sweatshop conditions are wrong in my eyes.
That I can agree with.
Oh and Chris, I'm not asking for you to look at me in a better light. You seem to be implying that I boycott Wal-Mart because it makes me look like some kind of better person. I boycott Wal-Mart becasue I don't agree with them, and I have no idea what that has to do with you.
Made in Mexico.You walk into a place like American Eagle and you find that maybe one shirt in the store is American
A couple of guys that work for me used to work in the stock area of their facility down there.
I think it's perfectly fair to criticise, and even boycott, businesses that exploit cheap labor abroad. It's not so much that people like Manny expect Wal-Mart to pay Chinese workers $8 an hour and give Health Benefits... It's more about Wal-Mart supporting and perpetuating an economic environment where people ARE paid that way.
We have labor laws in this country for a reason, and if we truly believe in them, we believe the spirit of those laws applies to everyone, whether they are in China, Indonesia, or the United States. If American Corporations are spending billions of dollars in an environment with no labor standards, the big-wigs in those country have no reason to provide a better working environment for their employees. On the other hand, if a company like Wal-Mart steps up to the plate and says "We will not do busniess with anyone who runs their company this way," foreign business owners (and possibly even nations) might be more inclined to raise their standards.
ing EXACTLY. And that goes beyond labor laws and onto enviromental laws as well.
The Gap?
American Eagle?
The only way you can say that the clothes your wearing are American made, is if the next time I see you, you're wearing a cat skin coat and Jessica is pissed off at you.
Boycotting Walmart is laughable. Some people just can’t avoid hating a prospering business. Walmart is one of the biggest companies in the world. It employs tons of people. It’s everywhere you look. In its own way, it’s a symbol of America.
Of course people are going to find stuff wrong. With a company that big, I’d be more worried if it had a perception of running flawlessly.
I’ve never heard anything that would make me even blink when it comes to shopping at Walmart. Walmart doesn’t have explicit language CDs and chooses not to put some books on the shelf? Who cares? The same people would be complaining if Walmart DID carry those items. They’d say that Walmart doesn’t promote a family atmosphere. And how hard is it to go buy the items elsewhere? You complain about a store and then complain more because you can’t buy something there? Makes a lot of sense.
Nitpicking at greatness is expected. Those people have their place in America. They have to make sure that people who strive their whole life to work at Walmart have the same opportunity to be floor leader on the softlines regardless of race, gender or sexual preference.
Basically, it comes down to Walmart being rich and people trying to sue them to get money. That’s the American way. In the crossfire, some people get confused and believe statistics about hiring practices, rain drain off and the such. Let them believe that H-E-B or target or wherever they shop is more earth/women/rain friendly. The truth it it's the same crap, just a different toilet seat.
The most classic thing about this thread is Manny’s signature. Let’s continue it a bit.
America, YEAH!
Coming again, to save the mother ing day yeah,
America, YEAH!
Freedom is the only way yeah,
Terrorist your game is through cause now you have to answer too,
America, YEAH!
So lick my butt, and suck on my balls,
America, YEAH!
What you going to do when we come for you now,
it’s the dream that we all share; it’s the hope for tomorrow
YEAH!
McDonalds, YEAH!
Wal-Mart, YEAH!
Walmart. The second most American thing in this great nation.
Funk yeah!
Personally, I think if you try to boycott any company or corporation that does something illegal or shady, then you wouldn't be going to shop anywhere.
Just weave your own clothes out of hemp, and grow your own food.
It is not the responsibility of American corporations to see that living standards are improved in all foreign countries. It is the responsibility of the citizens in said foreign countries to see that that happens.
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