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San Antonio would support them. Do you know how many people in this city have been waiting for pro football?
And if they thought this would be a test from the NFL to see if we'd support it, they'd be even more amped.
No, I said they aren't coming to the Dome permantly, and if they do come this year San Antonio will not support them unless there are enourmous discounts.
San Antonio would support them. Do you know how many people in this city have been waiting for pro football?
And if they thought this would be a test from the NFL to see if we'd support it, they'd be even more amped.
I maintain, pipe dream.
I maintain not.
As of right now, neither of us is correct.
San Antonio would fill up the Dome in a second for real NFL football. People complain that preseason showings weren't good, but who's going to s $60 out for a game where the good players play one quarter and then you see nothing but scrubs? I have no doubt this city could get 65,000 people to come to 8 games a season when the games actually mean something and they have a team to get behind. This is a city where drawing thousands for high-school games every Friday night is nothing.
If this is a test, then I hope the city proves me wrong and passes this test but looking at the past, the city has failed in gaining the NFLs attention. You can say that s ing out ca$h for preseason games isn't worth it but that kind of mentality hasn't worked in the city's effort.
Previous pro football teams in San Antonio never fared well, in terms of attendance in this "football-mad city". You look at the what the NFL is afraid of placing a game in the Alamodome, they just didn't come up with that conclusion out of the thin blue air.
Also, it not only ticket sales and attendence, if they were the only factors then the Browns would have never left Cleveland, Raiders would not have left Oakland and the Colts would still be in Baltimore.
What has the city of San Antonio done to gain serious consideration from the NFL?
All the city has done is talk about...cosmetic stuff.
They should just sign a 1 year agreement... Then re-evaluate things.
That way kids can get in school and we can have our football and good times.
Once the Saints get hooked on quality fans they wont want to leave.. Also some good
Mexican food... maybe a few dirty maids and envelopes of cash..
Hey.. it's NFL and San Antonio.. anything is possiblehahahahahaha (evil laugh)
San Antonio Backstabbers
Perfect name.
Although I like the San Antonio Grave Robbers too....
Hmmm....the San Antonio Plunder the devastated?
The San Antonio kick em when they're down?
The San Antonio the Poor?
The San Antonio the Poor but feel their pain?
It'd be nice if you guys waited to till the funeral was over to show your glee for stealing a devasted state and city's football team.
Pure class San Antonio...Pure class(and yes I know ya'll have zero guilt about doing it, so save the explanation).
Who's stealng? If the the owner wants to move the team here, are we supposed to say no?
Perfect name.
Although I like the San Antonio Grave Robbers too....
It'd be nice if you guys waited to till the funeral was over to show your glee for stealing a devasted state and city's football team.
Pure class San Antonio...Pure class(and yes I know ya'll have zero guilt about doing it, so save the explanation).
I don't think any major city lacking a pro NFL team would say no. You'd be out your mind to say no. You'd be "whottt'd" in the head if you said no.
I got it...
The San Antonio for all we about the Rich we'll be the first in line to get down on our knees to suck a rich man's if there's something in it for us...even if it's one poor city ing another....
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San Antonio s works just as well.
Perfect.
San Antonio Coyote > David Robinsons works even better.
I've got the solutuon to your stadium problems....Bill the refugees for sheltering them...or, if that would take too long, just bill the City of NO for it...
LOL when the entire Nation piles on you guys don't any of you act surprised....but then again, maybe ya'll will be...because it's obvious that many of you just don't get it. David Robinson was wasted on ya'll...
The San Antonio s....and they can play in Steal from the poor and devastated stadium.
Dude just shut the up already. We get it.
You like little boys.
You have small balls.
Your mom breast feed you until you were 33 years old
Your combover doesn't work anymore.
You paid a real woman for sex last night instead of the tranny's you prefer.
We get it.
The s is definitely a fitting name...
But then I realized the most fitting name is right in front of my eyes....
Just call them...the San Antonio City Council
The name is snyonymous with theiving s already...and it's definitely a symbol representative of San Antonio.
How long do you think it will take you guys to learn how to walk without your poor little us crutch? Because you will never be able to use it again.
I mean you still haven't learned to walk without it even after getting a World's Fair, the only ing Sea World in the state, heavy military military investment in your city, tourist attractions, a richer history than Dallas or Houston....hosting countless major sporting events...
Weak San Antonio... ing weak.
Local leaders making a play to keep Saints
Web Posted: 09/07/2005 12:00 AM CDT
Tom Orsborn
Express-News Staff Writer
San Antonio civic leaders on Thursday cast aside all pretenses about their desire to make the New Orleans Saints the San Antonio Saints. And not just for this NFL season.
From now on.
“This is a great opportunity for the city and we need to seize the moment, jump into with all four legs,” San Antonio businessman and former Minnesota Vikings owner Red McCombs said.
“Every effort needs to be made to tie the Saints up for this season - including having people stand in front of the dome singing, ‘When the Saints Come Marching In.’ ”
City Councilman Chip Haass said the dream of NFL football in San Antonio may soon be reality.
“It’s a lot closer to happening than people realize,” Haass said.
The city’s pitch, muted for several days because of concerns over the Hurricane Katrina disaster, coincided with a written statement from Saints owner Tom Benson in which he expressed a qualified desire to play his team’s home games in Baton Rouge, La.
But Benson, contacted later in the day, said San Antonio remains an option. The Saints will play the New York Giants in their “home opener” on Sept. 19 in East Rutherford, N.J.
“We are currently working with the NFL and expect to be in position shortly to announce the sites for our remaining 2005 home schedule,” Benson said in his written statement.
“I have expressed my desire to the NFL to play games in Baton Rouge, La., to the extent cir stances allow.”
The league reportedly is considering playing as many four games in San Antonio and three in Baton Rouge.
Questioned later, Benson said: “The statement speaks for itself. We’re looking at San Antonio and other places.”
“I'd like to get this situation solved right now, but maybe it will be done (today),” Benson said. “(The league) likes San Antonio. Nobody doesn't like San Antonio. We just have problems around the league. This is something that has never happened before."
Sources close to the situation, however, say Benson wants the remainder of the team’s home games to be played in the Alamodome.
With that to go on, Haass said, efforts by the city to accommodate Saints’ games - and to drum up support in the private sector for tickets and sponsorships - are gaining momentum.
“Things are progressing,” Haass said. “Nothing is finalized yet, but there is interest on both ends and specifics are trying to be hammered out.”
The NFL reportedly moved the Sept. 18 game to New York because it thought attendance in San Antonio would be low.
McCombs dismissed the notion, saying: “You will find people fighting for tickets. For every game, you would see the better seats scalped and scalped pretty high.”
Assistant City Manager Roland Lozano confirmed negotiations with the Saints are well under way.
“We have been discussing with the Saints the potential of either one game or a number of games at the dome,” Lozano said. “We don’t know how many yet and the Saints aren’t sure either.”
The outlook for the Saints to play at LSU’s Tiger Stadium in Baton Rouge remains uncertain. Because of massive relief efforts in Baton Rouge, LSU’s football team has already postponed one game and earlier this week the school agreed to move a home game against Arizona State, scheduled for this Saturday, to Tempe, Ariz.
LSU athletic director Skip Bertman has said the school might consider granting use of Tiger Stadium to the Saints, but said LSU would expect compensation from the Saints.
Benson’s current agreement with the state of Louisiana provides him with huge subsidies to play in the Superdome - a total of $186.5 million over a 10-year periods that began in 2001.
Bertman estimated that that the expenses charged to the Saints for use of Tiger Stadium would be about $300,000 per game.
With speculation growing that the Superdome will need extensive repairs -- and may even have to be razed -- the prospect that Benson may be planning a dramatic relocation of his team appears to be on the rise.
A source close to Benson said this week the Saints’ owner has a strong interest in permanently moving the team to San Antonio, now serving as the team’s temporary operations base and practice. Benson, who has strong personal and business ties to San Antonio, will likely face widespread criticism in Louisiana if he pursues a permanent relocation plan so soon after the Katrina disaster.
Still, some city leaders say they are ready to accommodate any desire Benson may have to move to San Antonio, even if such a move eventually requires the city to renovate the Alamodome or build a new stadium.
“You would obviously have to satisfy NFL requirements either at the dome or another stadium,” McCombs said. “A study by the city five years ago showed the dome could very well be brought up to NFL standards.”
McCombs, who has contacted Saints officials to discuss the situation, said he believes a permanent move to San Antonio would receive support from other league owners, including the Dallas Cowboys’ Jerry Jones and the Houston Texans’ Bob McNair.
“I firmly believe that,” McCombs said. “If Tom asks them, they will support it.”
McCombs cautioned that any such move could be stopped by the owners.
“But I don’t see that happening with Tom,” he said. “ In fact, I see them making it happen. You have to remember Tom sits on the league’s management council and has a lot of clout.”
Spokesman for Jones and McNair said the owners declined to comment.
Lozano and Haass are not the only city officials working to attract the Saints. According to McCombs, Mayor Phil Hardberger’s behind-the-scenes leadership has been crucial.
“He is the first mayor we have had in a long time who understands the value of having an NFL team,” McCombs said. “This is an opportunity for us, specifically because of Mayor Hardberger."
http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/f....131c0622.html
You San Antonians better get the Alamo in working order...because you are going to need it when the Nation comes down on your opportunistic asses.
Where is this sad bitterness coming from? What is the root of your female like fest?The s is definitely a fitting name...
But then I realized the most fitting name is right in front of my eyes....
Just call them...the San Antonio City Council
The name is snyonymous with theiving s already...and it's definitely a symbol representative of San Antonio.
How long do you think it will take you guys to learn how to walk without your poor little us crutch? Because you will never be able to use it again.
I mean you still haven't learned to walk without it even after getting a World's Fair, the only ing Sea World in the state, heavy military military investment in your city, tourist attractions, a richer history than Dallas or Houston....hosting countless major sporting events...
Weak San Antonio... ing weak.
I see you're not from San Antonio Whottt.
Explains your bitter jealousy.
When opportunity knocks on the door you ing answer it. You don't pussy out. You don't question it. It's ing opportunity. It’s the opportunity of getting an NFL team because the OWNER wants to move it. I don’t see anyone from San Antonio with a gun to his head.
Edit...that should read...heartless, opportunistic asses...it's just not an accurate description of what you are doing without the word heartless being included.
And don't hold your breath waiting for any volunteers this time around....you are going to be all alone on this one...
Heartless? Guy, do you just love being slapped for the sake of being ed slapped?
You can go on and on about ruthless this, heartless that, mean bully there, wet willy who cares.
You can type until your keyboard starts to smoke and stops functioning.
Hey Whottt, question.
Are the thousands and thousands of evacuees who are going to start anew in another city, never going back to New Orleans, who are going to call other cities homes. Are they evil? Are they heartless? Do they suck?
Answer that please, or else keep getting slapped.
Pre Hurricane I would have supported San Antonio getting a football team including the Saints. And actually...I would still support them getting one...I just don't support them stealing one from a devastated city...
It's shows an incredible lack of sensitivity.
Post Hurricane....in the event the team will be moved...now is not the time nor the ing place to be discussing it while you are housing 25k devastated and homeless people from that city. Asshole.
And yes...McCombs is an asshole as well.
I don't see Benson playing it the same way the city of SA is...
steal
v. stole, (stl) sto·len, (stln) steal·ing, steals
v. tr.
1. To take (the property of another) without right or permission.
2. To get or effect surrep iously or artfully: steal a kiss; stole the ball from an opponent.
3. To move, carry, or place surrep iously.
4. To draw attention unexpectedly in (an entertainment), especially by being the outstanding performer: The magician's assistant stole the show with her comic antics.
5. Baseball. To advance safely to (another base) during the delivery of a pitch, without the aid of a base hit, walk, passed ball, or wild pitch.
None of that is happening. Might want to choose a different verb.
Whottt, if now isn't the best time, when? Seriously. Maybe you don't like that we're talking about it. But too ing bad. We're talking about it because it's out there. It's a reality. It's a reality that Benson had to deal with from the moment Katrina hit America for the second time.
Just like the thousands who owns businesses in New Orleans who will not go back to re-open them. Business decisions need to be made as quickly as possible.
Whottt, what city do you live in?
Sorry...the NFL isn't going to touch this one...it would be a PR nightmare..and what you overlook about New Orleans...It is nearly the annual Superbowl Host...The NFL isn't going to hang New Orleans out to dry now...it is one of their most important cities.
And don't go into a lot of self sucking about how much better you would support the Saints than the city of New Orleans has...
The Spurs are ing goldenboys that have only had like 4 losing seasons in in the past 30 ing years....even with that.....Tim Duncan still had to put a ing gun to your heads to get you guys to build a new arena, theirs...and you guys ed and moaned about it the entire way...and that was after ya'll won a le. And you guys don't even sell out that arena in le defense years like also rans like the Kings sell out after major chokes.
I think SA is top contender for an NFL Franchise, because of the Spurs success more than any other reason, and their success is also why people are skittish about how you would support a ty franchise, but a top contender nontheless...you guys are letting your inferiority complex get in the way here...and your lack of tact is ing stunning. You guys are about to give yourselves a huge blackeye, and you guys are not going to get the Saints, ever because you are pushing for it at entirely the wrong time. Don't blame anyone else when it happens.
Everytime SA gets a chance to be a big time playya they end up doing like this...they prove they have small town heart...case in point...David Robinson is one of the greatest athletes to ever step foot on an NBA court...and any self respecting city with a truly knowledgable fan base would have had a total and complete fit over the big media dissing of this phonomenal "on the court" talent..but what you do you guys do? You sell him out to big media bias in a weak attempt to sound knowledgable, never realizing how that clearly shows you are rubesville. Any truly knowledgable town would have declared ing war on big media for what they did...but SA sells out their marquee citizen.
I like SA...actually it's a lot like New Orleans in that it's one of the truly unique American cities...but you guys are embarrassing when it comes like this...
Get it together and have some ing class would you? You know...that stuff you are always sucking your self off for your basketball team having...when basically it was all due to one man.
Edit: and could you keep your thoughts within the space of 1 post please, instead of 4 consecutive ones...You still haven't earned permanent removal from my ignore list and it's a pain the ass to view that many consecutive posts. Don't worry...I have the attention span to handle a long post.
Last edited by whottt; 09-07-2005 at 03:16 AM.
What will New Orleans host the superbowl in with my saying the Superbowl needs to be torn down.
And tough . The NFL has no say in what Tom Benson does with his team.
Um guy, had you ever paid attention to New Orleans and their "support" of the team? 23rd in attendance.And don't go into a lot of self sucking about how much better you would support the Saints than the city of New Orleans has...
Did you even live in San Antonio in 1998 when Holt laid down the line? Tim Duncan didn't say anything. It was all Peter Holt. He spoke the truth and eventually the city listened. He did the same thing the Maloofs are now doing in Sacramento and the same thing the owners of the Sonics are doing in Seattle.The Spurs are ing goldenboys that have only had like 4 losing seasons in in the past 30 ing years....even with that.....Tim Duncan still had to put a ing gun to your heads to get you guys to build a new arena...and you guys ed and moaned about it the entire way...and that was after ya'll won a le.
And how did we and moan when the vote passed with a landslide never before seen in American sporting venue history.
The only ing was probably location wise.
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