You gotta feel just a tiny bit relieved.
I was part of an abortion at the age of 20. Best decision of my life though it all but ended my relationship (we dated for 5 yrs but never recovered from that).
I'll always be bias on the issue because my life and every child I have from this moment, was altered by that decision. A decision I have never regretted and am fortunate to have been able to make.
I have advocated requiring a vasectomy for men not able to support the children they father. There would be exceptions though. But if a man nocks up a woman and unable to support a child when this happens, make him have a vasectomy so he cannot create such a burden on society again. Tubes tied for both parents if they must rely on government assistance, and were that way when the conception occurred.
Besides, men don't get a choice when it comes to abortion.
LOL...
My little Cobras are in their 30's.
My guess is the vast majority, esp the unmarried ones, totally disappear when the baby arrives and needs financial support. Male gain, female risk.
2/10 troll effort.
Still waiting for wild cobra to answer my question. Which was directed towards wild cobra to begin with.
the problem is, the vasectomy/tube tying does nothing to help the problem thats already at hand...
I had you wasting time trying to google an answer, unsuccessfully I might add. Deserves at least a 5 or 6 imo.
all it takes to get victory on a messageboard is declare it so why short change yourself? Give yourself 11/10 and a trophy.
Nonsense to secular society on a slippery slope? It's clearly visible. And no, the laws of this country are heavily influenced by religion. Heavily. America was founded on freedom of religion, but to say the law of the land isn't tied to Christianity is ludicrous. But as our country ages and separation of Church and state become the norm, secular society will continue to lose its bearings on morality since there is no moral code. Examples, sexuality was once taboo, now legal (even Obama campaigned against it in 2011, public opinion changed massively in 5 years). More of the same will continue for other things that are considered taboo currently. Transgenderism, transracialism (didn't know this was a thing until recently), polygamy are next.
"the laws of this country are heavily influenced by religion"
bull , unless you have hard evidence.
(Christian) religion isn't the only, nor best, source of morals, ethics codified into law.
Christian supremacists' fundamental bull is that their religion, Their mythical Guy, represent the only true religion.
I guess we just disagree. There's plenty of examples where laws go directly against the Christian moral code (capital punishment has basically existed since this country was founded, abortion has been legal for half a century now, etc) and society has made it just fine. It could also be argued that what time has done is force the Church to evolve it's views and moral code on different topics due to losing credibility and general apathy (even historically speaking, there's plenty of this with the crusades, etc).
In practice, a big part of the religious moral code is to deter (ie: if you kill, you go to , etc), and that's exactly what laws do, but without inserting the wrath of a deity in it. There's actually much more tangible consequences, like spending the next 20 years with Igor in the can. Now, it's true that for people that fear a god (in religions that have such concept), you have basically double the deter factor.
Overall, I think people has much more fear of change and lack of ability to adapt than tangible effects on society. I mean, it's not like sexuality being taboo made teh gays go away. That's just a fallacy.
I think if a woman has an abortion that doesn't stem from rape or incest her name should go in a public database on the Internet, like a pedophile. I thought think this and many other crimes (eg not paying child support) should be readily available to the public. Why are sexual deviants the only ones this happens too. I should be able to look up every crime or felony a person has committed on the Internet.
I also think think anyone who has more than one abortion should involuntarily have their tubes tide. These abortions have to be caused by irresponsibility.
Also, rape a women?
Cut the guys off and donate to someone who needs it.
No. It just prevents future problems of the same.
What would you do to fix "the problem at hand?"
allow abortions
Considering our smaller head often dictates our actions, wouldn't you just be creating a new rappist?
You are morally disgusting.
Do you also eat the fetuses?
by YOUR personal moral standards? maybe.
not usually, no.Do you also eat the fetuses?
Better to sell them to others to eat at a fat profit.
That's exactly my point, slowly laws stray farther away from a Biblical moral code; hence; me claiming a slippery slope. I am not saying only follow a Biblical moral code, I am just saying that is what most our countries laws were founded upon. At least in Christianity, laws are not meant to deter. You can kill and go to heaven. But you must repent and be born again as Bible would say.
Either way, good talking with you.
...the part left unsaid there would be "if you don't, you're going to ", and would be the place you need to fear to go. Otherwise, there's no incentive to repent and follow the code.
I suppose if you enjoy living under a Biblical moral code then that's probably enjoyable, and good for you. If you don't, it probably sucks. For atheists probably sucks even more, as it's the only and short life they figure to have.
Plus if you don't believe in reincarnation, you only have to care about it for as long as you figure to live. That's not too long, and odds are very good that society will function just fine at least until then.
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