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Yeah I'm still not getting the big deal of having a conference championship game. So Bama beats a down Florida team like they're supposed to. What does that prove?
Except NCAA rules prevent the Big 12 from having a conf champ game... There is that...
http://www.cbssports.com/collegefoot...elaxed-by-2016
Yeah I'm still not getting the big deal of having a conference championship game. So Bama beats a down Florida team like they're supposed to. What does that prove?
Bama plays 8 conference games this year. 9 with the SEC le game.
Big 12 teams all play 9 conference games every year.
it's a silly argument that a conference needs a le game.
It's even sillier when one conference is NOT ALLOWED to have a conference le game and then use it against their best team to prevent them from getting into the playoff.
Of course, the big 12 could just add a couple of cream puff schools to the conference like Arkansas State and Georgia State, stick them in the north division and have a pansy play in the championship against the South winner. That'll make everyone happy.
Oh, and tell those schools they won't get full member benefits until the year 2050.
My top 4 right now would be Clemson, Bama, OU, and Notre Dame. Iowa and their easy schedule.
I think we will end up seeing Clemson, Bama, OU, and Michigan State in the playoffs.
Bama/OU in the Cotton Bowl.
Clemson/Michigan State in the Orange Bowl.
I'm thinking Notre Dame will lose at Stanford, and Michigan State will beat Iowa. I expect Bama and OU to win out.
Clemson could have a tough game against North Carolina.
It all comes back to how re ed it is to have four playoff spots with five power conferences plus notre dame
Yeah someone could be left out like last year in the Big 12.
I'm thinking the Pac-12 and Notre Dame will be left out this year.
The Pirate is one last second loss to Portland State and a missed FG against Stanford from being a one loss team and having a chance to win the Pac-12 le.
Yeah they're lucky to have him up there.
I wonder what would happen if Clemson loses the ACC le game.
Or if Bama gets stunned by Auburn but still crushes Florida.
Surprised he had to go all the way to Pullman, Washington just to get a P5 job. ESPN must have really done a number on his reputation.
I think that's part of it. I think his maverick personality is another part of it.
Chaos. That's for sure. Assuming Michigan State and Ohio State win out, plus Baylor and the winner of OSU/OU game will all have one loss. And Clemson and UNC. Don't forget Iowa. That leaves 7 potentially P5 teams with one loss.
I think Michigan State, the Big 12 champs will get in for sure. That leaves two spots. I bet OHio State would get one of those. That leaves Baylor, Clemson, and UNC who would be the conference champs. I'm guessing UNC would get that spot due to being a conference champ.
Michigan State versus UNC in the Orange Bowl
Big 12 champ versus OSU in the Cotton Bowl
Who's fault is it that teams leave the Big 12?
And I could have sworn that the Big 12 commissioner said he didn't want to have a le game:
http://www.cbssports.com/collegefoot...missioner-says
After TCU (maybe the best team in the country last year) got snubbed.......there is no way in I would allow my conference to get left out because of the lack of a le game. The commissioner could have made a simple phone call and an exemption would have been made to the rule. But, as far as I can tell the commissioner doesn't want a le game.
OSU jumped over a lot of teams because they skull- ed Wisconsin by 60. The le game can hurt you if you lose it....but can help out immensely if you win it.
Yeah, in a world where ESPN owns the SEC network, biased Big 12 fans are the problem.
That's what they're saying this year. Last year, Baylor's one loss not being as good as others' one loss was repeatedly used as an argument against them, but SEC fans shut the argument down when it's used this year. It's really easy to move the goalposts when you control the narrative.
And this horse is cherry picked to be the most favorable to the SEC and happily regurgitated by you and others.
The SEC has more teams, they each play different conference opponents in their schedule, and have five bad teams, so the losses are distributed, their bad teams absorb the losses, and middle teams have better records. Doesn't hurt that they were all ranked to start the season.
The Big 12 has four dominant teams at the top, only one terrible team, and everyone plays everyone, so that's a minimum of four losses for everyone with only one shot at an easy win, and that's before they even play each other. If you're calculating strength of schedule based on wins, then Iowa State is a terrible team. Their schedule looks awfully tough. An SEC team with that many quality losses would probably still be ranked.
Complete idiots. Refusing to name a conference champ last year when the motto the whole year was "one true champion" is the stupidest thing ever. They allowed the talk about "quality of loss" to sink in, and they choked. I'm annoyed by the talking heads and the s game of logic, but if your conference commissioner won't back you, none of the other problems matter.
It wasn't because of a lack of a le game, it was lack of declaring one champion.
If there was a le game, Baylor would have played the north division scrub and TCU would have been left out any way.
The lack of a le game wasn't the reason why the Big 12 was left out. What hurt the Big 12 was TCU not winning the conference and Baylor's strength of schedule. I'm fairly certain if TCU had the tie-breaker over Baylor and won the outright championship, they would have gotten in over Ohio State. Baylor never had a chance to be honest. But TCU were 3rd before the final week and fell to 6 mainly because they lost the Big 12 le when Baylor beat K-State.
Of course, the "One True Champion" and the Big 12 naming co-champs had a lot to do with them being left out.
I'm just telling you guys that Jeff Long (the Chairman) referenced the lack of a Big 12 le game. I've told all of you guys 100 times...it doesn't matter what I think, you think, or what some sports writer thinks. It only matters what the Playoff Committee thinks.........and him bringing it up tells me all I need to know. It might not be the "biggest factor", but it definitely factored into the equation.
http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports...off-committee/
Well then the playoff committee needs to change, not the big 12.
Condi Rice for chrissakes
Well we agree on that Blake.
Been saying that since the committee was formed. Condi ing Rice......Jesus H. Christ.
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