There's a minimum IQ required to understand what Tony's saying. I'm not surprised the krew didn't get it.
Great Spurs wing defenders? Like Ime? The Centerpiece? ?Ghatdam, Porky is one candid mother a
He's right, tooBowen set the precedent for great Spurs wing defenders, and Kawhi was compared to him ad nauseam when he came into the league.
Bowen paved the way
If Kawhi is consistently compared to a great defensive SF from the past, it's not Bowen. It's actually someone who spearheaded the Doberman Defence for the Chicago Bulls.
I've actually defended Parker as a player for his entire career, from the very beginning, until about post-ASG this year. He was playing great early in the year too, defending aggressively, being a facilitator more than a hero, but he regressed. It's time to move over. All the way over, not the half-assed he's doing.
That quote is some Mr. Me Too bull that didn't need to be said. He's not even wrong about more than half of it, but Kawhi doesn't owe anybody anything. Like somebody else said, he'd win that award playing for the Sixers. Just build up the guy for what he did, there's no need for anything else, no "WE paved the ways" necessary. I'm a Spurs fan, not a player fan. I like every player on every Spurs team. That's who we've got, that's who I'm rooting for. I give the credit where it's due, when it's due, and I call guys on their bull when it's warranted. Parker's on some bull , but I'm still pulling for him.
I'm not right there with you at all, tbh
Dude, six pages? Parker is right to a certain extent. If Kawhi had been on those early 2000 teams, he would have been ignored, like most of the Spurs, with the exception of Tim Duncan. Now, does he owe Duncan and Bowen for the award based on merit? no. I think Parker acknowledges that. He's merely lamenting that in the Golden Age of Spur love, great individual achievements by Spurs players are actually recognized by the media. Now could he have said it better? Yes, but would it matter to Parker haters? No.
Even if Porker meant well with his latest stupid comment, he always comes across as a sulking bag.
Come on man. I read all the quotes. You just can't explain that.
of course he meant well, Parker is a very good friend of Bruce and always thought Bruce has been stolen from this award a couple of times... same goes with Tim. It is just a tribute for those two, not a knock on Kawhi's trophy
It's obvious what he meant and he's spot on. It also helps Leonard that he has the stereotypical look of a great defender and is emerging in the infancy of defensive metrics.
It's more warranted this season in Leonard's case, but in general, the national media gives Pop and Leonard too much credit for the past half decade and virtually everyone else that played a role of significance not enough.
Come on man. I read all the quotes. You just can't explain that.
TP had plenty of quotes praising Kawhi... "Kawhi is ubelievable" "this is his team now" etc... interpreting his quotes the wrong way is just filling some agenda
Without porky we're light 4 NBA world championships
This team wasn't a defensive team before Kawhi. I'm not talking about prime Duncan either. Not Tiago or Green or Duncan has contributed as much as Kawhi.
Dude is an enigma of a player. Can play on the ball and off the ball on both ends.
Trade Tony Parker for Damian Lilard.
"I think Kawhi can say thanks to Bruce and Timmy for those defensive awards,” Parker said. “I felt like before, Bruce definitely should have won one of those years and I’m surprised Timmy never won the defensive (award). But I think back in the day, the Spurs didn’t get that much respect. We had to earn that respect. Now everybody respects the Spurs, so they don’t forget Kawhi.
TP had plenty of quotes praising Kawhi... "Kawhi is ubelievable" "this is his team now" etc... interpreting his quotes the wrong way is just filling some agenda
He just undermined Kawhi getting the award right there.
He basically said that Kawhi won that award because of the respect Duncan and Bruce earned 10 years ago. No twisting that. He just said it.
I respect trying to point out that Bruce and Duncan were robbed, or that Spurs didn't get respect, because it's definitely true.
It still comes across y the way he says it though, similar with his "I can't believe they're leaving Danny so wide open" or some of his other moments. However, without Parker and Kobe's egos, this site would get less traffic.
This is TP's answer to the question: "So, who's better:Bruce or Kawhi ?"
He said they don't forget Kawhi... like they forgot Bruce and Tim... again nothing wrong. The fact Bowen and Tim helped Spurs gaining respect around the league contributed to the fact they don't forget..."I think Kawhi can say thanks to Bruce and Timmy for those defensive awards,” Parker said. “I felt like before, Bruce definitely should have won one of those years and I’m surprised Timmy never won the defensive (award). But I think back in the day, the Spurs didn’t get that much respect. We had to earn that respect. Now everybody respects the Spurs, so they don’t forget Kawhi.
He just undermined Kawhi getting the award right there.
He basically said that Kawhi won that award because of the respect Duncan and Bruce earned 10 years ago. No twisting that. He just said it.
Yeah, because a 3 year slide (where they were still around the top 10) supersedes the previous 11 years where they were perennially elite, including having the best single season defense ever.
Leonard was obviously a significant part of restoring the defense to elite, but so too were Duncan getting his knee more stable and the additions of Splitter and Green.
He just said he wouldn't have won without some imaginary "respect" that he attributes to.He said they don't forget Kawhi... like they forgot Bruce and Tim... again nothing wrong. The fact Bowen and Tim helped Spurs gaining respect around the league contributed to the fact they don't forget...
How is that not undermining?
And his is an analytics era. He is leading the best defense by historic margins and won. That was all him, not "respect" from more than a decade ago.
His point of view obviously is that without Spurs gaining respect thanks to dudes like Bowen and Tim, they would have given the trophy to Raymond... not sure why you are mad because this the truth... this happened to Tim several times.He just said he wouldn't have won without some imaginary "respect" that he attributes to.
How is that not undermining?
And his is an analytics era. He is leading the best defense by historic margins and won. That was all him, not "respect" from more than a decade ago.
again nothing wrong with that
Did anyone here watch the actual interview?
^and even if you disagree, that's fine tbh... but again don't see it like undermining Kawhi because it is not
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