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    You do realize that I never said Green has good handles, right?
    I do realize you are the president of the green can club. Your harsh judgement of simmons sounds very similar to your boy.

    Funny you are.

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    Green had 24 lost ball or charge TOs in 2061 minutes played last year. Simmons had 25 in 813. They don't have the same TO problems. That's mainly because Green doesn't have to drive to score or especially to be useful. Sure, if he could do it, that'd be awesome. But he'd also be making $20 Million a year if he could.

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    I do realize you are the president of the green can club. Your harsh judgement of simmons sounds very similar to your boy.

    Funny you are.
    Not really. Green can't dribble, so he doesn't try. He can shoot and defend at elite levels. And he does that. Simmons can't do that things, so him not being able to dribble is a bigger issue.

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    Green had 24 lost ball or charge TOs in 2061 minutes played last year. Simmons had 25 in 813. They don't have the same TO problems. That's mainly because Green doesn't have to drive to score or especially to be useful. Sure, if he could do it, that'd be awesome. But he'd also be making $20 Million a year if he could.
    That's because green is afraid to dribble. And teams know it.

    There is more to the game than stats. They don't always tell the whole truth.

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    Not really. Green can't dribble, so he doesn't try. He can shoot and defend at elite levels. And he does that. Simmons can't do that things, so him not being able to dribble is a bigger issue.
    Well I guess 40% from 3 is not being able to shoot?

    Green was on fire this year.
    And I think he has overrated D

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    I do realize you are the president of the green can club. Your harsh judgement of simmons sounds very similar to your boy.

    Funny you are.
    Not sure if intentional or not but, it works!

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    There's just meanies everywhere. It's a rough world. I hope your tender little heart will be ok.
    I was using humor and sarcasm of my own to share a little joke right back that C shared with me. You have no sense of humor whatsoever so I have no desire to amuse your cold heart out. lol

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    I was using humor and sarcasm of my own to share a little joke right back that C shared with me. You have no sense of humor whatsoever so I have no desire to amuse your cold heart out. lol
    I love how you retreat when called out. I'm sorry sweet heart

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    Danny makes his money on elite defense and the 3 ball, his game is not slashing and playmaking like Simmons' allegedly is.

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    I love how you retreat when called out. I'm sorry sweet heart
    I have no desire to simply argue just to argue which is what you enjoy in these forums...

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    Danny makes his money on elite defense and the 3 ball, his game is not slashing and playmaking like Simmons' allegedly is.
    Overrated elite D.

    And again, because I know you probably missed it because of your tears from the men people, but simmons shot 40%.
    Better than the 10 million dollar man

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    I have no desire to simply argue just to argue which is what you enjoy in these forums...
    I'm just a mean rude man. I'm sorry. Tender heart.

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    All useless bums in the NBA game or they would have been here by now.

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    Hanga and Bertans are playing the semis against the Barcelona, Hanga was the best Baskonia player in game 1 but Bertans had a poor performance. Next game is on Sunday.

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    I'm going to watch every Simmons turnover. Because while he was a little loose considering his inexperience + occasional ball handling role I'll trust my own eyes.

    One plus for Hanga is that he can play SF better, he's bigger than his height with his squat neck and head. I might prefer him to Anderson.

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    Spurs need slashers, Hanga should have their chance this year

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    Re: Bertans - I think I'll just do a YouTube video of all his attempts rather than a big write up so people can see for themselves.

    Re: Simmons and his ball handling ... I've begun watching his games. I've skipped around a little ... where is the career killing handle? I've seen some live turnovers of bad passes around the horn, getting stripped after the gather as he goes up, poor passes when jumping without a plan, etc. In fact, right now I'm at halftime of the last game against Dallas ... and his handle looked fine? Is that supposed to be the high and sloppy dribble that cripples him? Sure looked like he was able to drive and attack to get to the rim and score, ISO off the switch to shoot, feed Boban for the score. He gets a palming call in the 3rd, but not a doubt caster tbh

    Maybe he actually improved his game some with experience? Maybe a guy who had rarely played against decent compe ion his whole life, and after the system shock adjustment of playing against NBA athletes could get better with coaching and time in his rookie season.

    Maybe I'm imagining something, I haven't slept much. Anyone else want to watch that last Dallas game and tell me about his ball handling? It's not like Dallas was tanking, they were playing for position and played all their guys.

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    Simmons's ball handling was mediocre. There were a lot of times hed have open pathways to the rim and bounce it off his feet or legs.

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    Frankly, it will only be for the best in the team's interest to bring in guys to compete. I am nit sure if Hanga is interested. There are players that can find themselves in a De Colo situation. They were starting games in Europe and here they will have to compete for about 10-12 minutes with both Anderson and Simmons.

    May the best man win! It will only make these guys better or we find a new gem of a player. What is there to be arguing about?

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    I watched the game and while Hanga ended with decent stats, I don't think he had an impressive game. To start, the coaching was bizarre, as the game started with Bertans and Bourousis on the bench so some scrubs could start. By the time they got in the game was basically over. Laboral just didn't have any shot creation without Bourousis threat down low and Bertans getting attention. One problem is what I've been posting, is that Hanga can't create much for himself or others.

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