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Repugs don't know how to proceed, after 6 years, with a replacement.
One thing is sure: you Trash supporters on ACA are gonna get screwed badly.
IMO, all those Repub governors who accepted Medicaid ACA expansion are breathing a sigh of relief - relief that Trump and Congress are gonna repeal Obamacare and they'll be able to wash their hands of the vast over-enrollment and overrun costs that the states will bear as fed govt steps back from funding.
Repugs don't know how to proceed, after 6 years, with a replacement.
One thing is sure: you Trash supporters on ACA are gonna get screwed badly.
GOP preps swift Obamacare 'repeal' but might delay effects till after 2020 to avoid voter backlash
Republicans are debating how long to delay implementing the repeal.
Aides involved in the deliberations said some parts of the law may be ended quickly, such as its regulations affecting insurer health plans and businesses.
Other pieces may be maintained for up to three or four years, such as insurance subsidies and the Medicaid expansion.
Some parts of the law may never be repealed, such as the provision letting people under age 26 remain on a parent’s plan.
House conservatives want a two-year fuse for the repeal.
Republican leaders prefer at least three years, and there has been discussion of putting it off until after the 2020 elections, staffers said.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/1...28Daily+Kos%29
ing total less clowns
Day One!
...and after the 2018 midterms.
bou, they don't have 60 votes in the Senate to repeal the whole thing. They can only repeal the $s part - not the stuff that's making it crazy expensive. I guess they're hoping to pick up the extra seats to 60 in 2018 and then they can get rid of the whole thing. But Ryan wants to defund ACA now - can never tell what's gonna happen 2 years from now. Trump - I don't think knows enough about the intricacies of the law - he' probably just wants the least amount of pain and bad publicity.
One thing is sure: you Trash supporters on ACA are gonna get screwed badly.
Obamacare Repeal Will Wipe Out The Same Voters Who Supported Donald Trump
Studies are finding that repealing Obamacare will unleash a healthcare catastrophe on the very same people who voted for Donald Trump.
The Wall Street Journal highlighted the findings of a Gallup/American Communities Project survey, “Swaths of largely rural Graying America, Rural Middle America and Working Class Country counties make up large parts of Florida, Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin, the states that led to Mr. Trump’s victory.”
Trump won with working class country voters by 46 points.
He won with graying American voters by 22 points.
He won evangelical hubs by 51 points.
Those three groups made up a 16.9% growth in the insured rate due to the ACA.
The LA Times noted that 4 of the 5 states that receive the most subsidies (North Carolina, Florida, Texas, and Georgia) were won by Trump.
Florida alone will lose $5.2 billion in ACA subsidies.
These numbers aren’t including the disaster that is set to occur in states that Donald Trump won if Republicans immediately kill the Medicaid expansion subsidies to the states.
A 2009 study found that 45,000 annual deaths in the United States were linked to a lack of affordable healthcare before the ACA.
Those numbers can be expected to return or reach even higher levels if the ACA is repealed, and the political problem for Republicans is that the areas that are likely to be the hardest hit are those that were carried by Trump in 2016.
http://www.politicususa.com/2016/12/...ald-trump.html
Here’s how many people could die every year if Obamacare is repealed
Getting rid of Obamacare is a death sentence.
Nearly 36,000 people could die every year, year after year, if the incoming president signs legislation repealing the Affordable Care Act.
This figure is based on new data from the Urban Ins ute examining how many people will become uninsured if the law is repealed, as well as a study of mortality rates both before and after the state of Massachusetts enacted health reforms similar to Obamacare.
In fairness, 36,000 is a high estimate of the number of deaths that will result if Obamacare is repealed, as there is some uncertainty about how congressional Republicans will repeal the law.
Even in the best case scenario, however, a wholesale repeal of Obamacare may cause about 27,000 people to die every year who otherwise would have lived.
https://thinkprogress.org/heres-how-...0a2#.b8xf3hk3j[/COLOR]
These coal country voters backed Trump. Now they’re worried about losing Obamacare.
Did voters such as these know they were voting for this? After all, Trump promised countless times throughout the campaign to repeal the Affordable Care Act, didn’t he?
If they are complaining about this now, don’t they have only themselves to blame?
The CNN segment features people who live in Eastern Kentucky coal country and backed Trump because he promised to bring back coal jobs.
Now, however, they worry that a provision in the ACA that makes it easier for longtime coal miners with black lung disease to get disability benefits could get eliminated along with the law.
That provision shifted the burden of proving that the disability was directly caused by work in the mines away from the victim.
Those benefits include financial and medical benefits.
Some benefits now also extend to the widows of miners who had black lung disease — or pneumoconiosis, a lung illness associated with inhalation of coal dust — after their husbands die.
Other reporting has also confirmed widespread coal country worries about losing these protections.
One man who worked in the mines for 35 years told CNN’s Miguel Marquez:
“When they eliminate the Obamacare, they may just eliminate all of the black lung program. It may all be gone. Don’t matter how many years you got.”
The widow of a deceased miner, who is now trying to get the benefits, said she doesn’t want to see Obamacare repealed, and even suggested Trump may be on the verge of betraying her and others in the region:https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...=.ef629cf59ea9
“If he don’t come across like he promised, he’s not gonna be there next time. Not if I can help it.”
Coal companies profited from giving their miners black lung, but taxpayers picking up the medical care, now.
No doubt the Repugs will screw the black lung families with less care and more cost.
Trump Warns GOP To Make Sure Dems 'Own' Obamacare Failure: 'Be Careful!'
"Republicans must be careful in that the Dems own the failed ObamaCare disaster," Trump tweeted, apparently warning Republicans to avoid acting in undue haste that might lead to poor optics.
"Dems are to blame for the mess. It will fall of its own weight - be careful!"
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewir...+%28TPMNews%29
Ignorant as ever
Lying as ever
And you rightwingnutjobs "believe" all his lies.
a tweet "thread" about ACA, Medicare, etc.
Warning: Repug lies and/or ignorance ahead.
AS GOD IS MY WITNESS, I'VE NO IDEA WHAT TO DO.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2017/1...dea-what-to-do
Sanders Blows Up Trump Tweet To Press Him On Medicaid, Social Security Cuts
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...rc=twsrc%5Etfw
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/sanders-brings-trump-tweet-to-senate-floor?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_ca mpaign=Feed%3A+tpm-news+%28TPMNews%29
just another Trash lie, con job.
Trash will sign off Ryan's bills to destroy Medicare, up Medicaid, and repeal ACA with a non-equivalent, all of which hurt his poor, old, rural, WHITE voters the most.
Just 18 Percent of Americans Approve of the Congress Paul Ryan Leads
But Republicans are sticking with him.
https://www.thenation.com/article/ju...ul-ryan-leads/
In their incredible hubris and stupidity, Repugs thought they could convince America to hate
("govt IS the problem" -- St Ronnie the Diseased)
and to want to destroy govt, Repugs thinking it wouldn't apply to them.
And just wait until Repugs up Medicare, SS, Medicaid, block OT threshold, refuse to raise minimum wage, etc, etc.
There is no good end to Obama care. The preexisting condition genie is out of the bottle. You can't have that without mandating coverage. Why pay out the ass for insurance when you can wait until you have cancer and THEN go "buy" insurance to pay for it.
Dear Congressional GOP: Don't Say You Weren't Warned. (including by your own experts)
A definitely-NOT-comprehensive selection of opinions regarding the Republican Party's imminent "Repeal & Delay" strategy for the Affordable Care Act:
What outside experts are saying about repeal and delay:
American Academy of Actuaries: “Repealing major provisions of the ACA would raise immediate concerns that individual market enrollment would decline, causing the risk pools to deteriorate and premiums to become less affordable. Even if the effective date of a repeal is delayed, the threat of a deterioration of the risk pool could lead additional insurers to reconsider their participation in the individual market.” [Letter to Congress, 12/7/16]
Nick Gerhart (Iowa Republican Insurance Commissioner): “If you're going to repeal this, I hope that there's a replacement stapled to that bill.” [NPR, 11/21/16]
Governor Jay Inslee and Mike Kreidler (Washington Democratic Governor and Insurance Commissioner): “Decisions to cut funding before developing a replacement puts the health of Washingtonians at great risk through undermining and destabilizing their health care.” [Letter to Congress, 12/9/16]
Sabrina Corlette (Georgetown University): “The idea that you can repeal the Affordable Care Act with a two- or three-year transition period and not create market chaos is a total fantasy.” [New York Times, 12/3/16]
Michael Cannon (Cato Ins ute): "What they are planning to do is absolutely insane.” [TPM, 12/18/16]
Larry Levitt (Kaiser Family Foundation):
- “The individual insurance market could collapse in between a repeal vote and a replacement vote” [TPM, 11/29/16].
- “Any significant delay between repeal of the ACA and clarity over what will replace it would likely lead insurers to exit the marketplaces in droves” [Huffington Post, 12/1/16].
- "Republicans are in a bit of box here, because the individual mandate is an anathema to them, but repealing the individual mandate immediately while keeping the protections for people with pre-existing conditions would likely lead to immediate chaos in the insurance market" [TPM, 11/29/16].
Stuart Butler (formerly Heritage Foundation), Alice Rivlin (former CBO and OMB Director), Loren Adler (Brookings Ins ution): “If replacing the ACA is truly the goal, though, repealing it first without a replacement in hand is almost certainly a disastrous way to start. First, a reconciliation bill would likely destabilize the individual market and very possibly cause it to collapse in some regions of the country during the interim period before any replacement is designed…If no replacement plan materializes, the hollowed-out individual market – for people without access to employer-provided or public coverage – could be left in shambles.” [Brookings, 12/13/16]
Topher Spiro (Center for American Progress): "Their strategy of repealing now and replacing later was designed to provide false assurance that everything would be okay. Now there's a growing awareness that in fact this strategy would cause a lot of chaos and perhaps even collapse the market before a replacement plan can be put into place." [TPM, 11/29/16]
Robert Laszewski (Health Care Consultant and ACA Critic): “Republicans are being awfully naive. They seem to be ignoring the risks in the transition period.” [Vox, 12/1/16]
Former Senator Tom Daschle: “It sends all the wrong messages to the private sector…You gotta have the replacement before you have the repeal.” [Politico Pulsecheck Podcast, 12/1/16]
Joshua Blackman (Professor and former Cato Ins ute Scholar): “Passing it by itself is politically expedient, but would create a series of headaches very quickly for the Republicans." [TPM, 12/18/16]
Linda Blumberg, Matthew Buettgens, John Holahan (Urban Ins ute): “If Congress partially repeals the ACA with a reconciliation bill like that vetoed in January 2016…Significant market disruption would occur…Many, if not most, insurers are unlikely to participate in Marketplaces in 2018.” [Urban, 12/7/16]
Judith Solomon (Center for Budget and Policy Priorities): “Many people likely would lose coverage before any Republican health plan was fully implemented.”
[CPBB, 12/5/16]http://www.dailykos.com/story/2017/0...dea-what-to-do
One good item in the Repugs' toilet of ideas was to require people to have coverage BEFORE they got sick, eg, continuous coverage.
Time for the end of Obamacare. Bye bye $1000 fine or $10,000 a year with huge deductibles.
No good answer. In every other part of life people make economic choices. Some live in mansions and some live in apartments. Some drive Mercedes and some drive beaters. In Healthcare everyone thinks they deserve a Ferrari.
You Lie.
You speaking for everybody?
Ms just want basic health care, ANY health care, without spending the rest of their lives paying for it.
This has got to be one of the stupidest things I've read on the internet in the past 3 days.
How much is enough for someone else to spend to preserve your life? That's literally the million dollar question sometimes.
The hubris of the young and stupid.
Enough for the lifesavers to live decently. No need for a lifesaver to make an obscene $10K/hour, no need for a drug to cost an obscene $25K/month (there's a new drug out at that price range in the past couple weeks). The only "need" is for investors to profit from disease.
Oh...so Ferrari health care at Hyundai prices. Got it. Let them devote their life to medicine so when you get the wrong diseased in your ass they can save your life on the cheap.
WTF is Ferrari health care? and whatever it is, is it more successful, have better outcomes, than whatever the Hyundai health care?
Why are US drugs prices at Ferrari level when the same drugs are at Toyota level in other countries? Because BigPharma is ing America.
Did you expect any less from Cosmic boy? He's the king of copying and pasting the recycled rightwing talking points.
I mean, who comes up with nonsense like everyone wants a ferrari and or whatever that means.
Fabbs level of intelligence.
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