***** The Official 2017 Avante Football Thread *****

[Avante]

The first black 1000 yard rusher from an HBCU school was the Niners J.D.Smith*** back in the mid 50's, he was out of NCA&T. Tonight we'll be watching the next RB out of NCA&T in quick, agile, speedy Tarik Cohen. The Bears having HBCU studs Willie Galimore out of Florida A&M (Bob Hayes) and the great Walter Payton&&& out of Jackson State.

*** converted cornerback. Long strider. very smooth. Reminds me of Chris Warren out of Furman.

Top 10 HBCU RB's

1.Walter Payton Bears/Jackson St HOF
2.Leroy Kelly Browns/Morgan St HOF
3.Willie Galimore Bears/FAMU
4.Clem Daneils Raiders/Prairie View first 1000 yard rusher
5.J.D.Smith Niners/NCA&T
6.Emerson Boozer Jets/Maryland Eastern Shore
7.Mack "The Truck" Lee Hill Chiefs/Southern U
8.Essex Johnson Bengals/Grambling
9.Willie Ellison Rams/Texas Southern
10.Paul "Tank" Younger Rams/Grambling

&&& people forget he had a brother with the Lions.....Eddie.

Hard to believe the great Gale Sayers had an older brother Roger who was faster than he was, Roger once beat Bob Hayes. And a fantastic footballer but....just 160 pounds.

Gale the nations top HS long jumper at 24-11.

[Avante]

With McCaffrey playing Thursday night.

Best white RB

Niners....Hugh "King" McElhenny HOF
Redskins....John Riggins HOF
Dolphins...Larry Csonka HOF
Bears....Red Grange/Bronko Nagurski HOF
Packers...Jim Taylor/Paul Hornung HOF
Giants...Frank Gifford HOF

As we see, all those cats oldies.

A few good ones.

"Jaguar" Jon Arnett Rams
Craig James Pats
Mark Van Eeghan/Marv Hubbard Raiders
Ed Podolak Chiefs
Keith Lincoln, ie Post Chargers
Mike Alstott Buc's
Rick Casares Bears
Ken Willard Niners
Nick Pietrasonte Lions
Alan Ameche Colts
Peyton Hillis Browns

Steve Van Buren......was part black, LSU had no clue.

McCaffreys grandfather Dave Sime won the Olympic 100m silver medal at the 1960 Olympics. He is still considered the second fastest white sprinter from the USA.

1956 WORLD RANKINGS

1................................Bobby Morrow (US)
2..................................... Dave Sime (US)
3................................. Leamon King (US)
4.................................. Thane Baker (US)
5........................... Hec Hogan (Australia)
6................................ Ira Murchison (US)
7............................... Willie Williams (US)
8....................... Mike Agostini (Trinidad)
9........ Manfred Germar (West Germany)

10...................... Abdul Khaliq (Pakistan)

[Avante]

It appears enought is enought. The owners are tired of the crap. Some ruling is about to come down forbiding the players from showing disrespect to the National Anthem. What took so long?

All the protester accomplished was.....see us, this is why the cops treat us like they do we don't care about doing what 's right. Kaepernick needs his ass kicked.

[Mitch]

It appears enought is enought. The owners are tired of the crap. Some ruling is about to come down forbiding the players from showing disrespect to the National Anthem. What took so long?

All the protester accomplished was.....see us, this is why the cops treat us like they do we don't care about doing what 's right. Kaepernick needs his ass kicked.

Once their money started burning and the president threw gasoline on that fire they panicked.

In the end the almighty dollar is giving the marching orders to teams and players.

[chunticakes]

Once their money started burning and the president threw gasoline on that fire they panicked.

In the end the almighty dollar is giving the marching orders to teams and players.

Once Trump threatened to cut tax breaks all the owners panicked

[Avante]

Once their money started burning and the president threw gasoline on that fire they panicked.

In the end the almighty dollar is giving the marching orders to teams and players.

I was surprised the league let it go on as long as it did.

Yep, ya nailed it.

[Avante]

I feel sorry for Russell Wilson, that o line is horrendous.

Alex Smith having a career year, so far.

Never had a stud NFL RB out of Toledo, until Kareem Hunt.

The Rams Robert Woods was the top 400m HS sprinter in the nation.

The Niners Marquiez Goodwin the National HS record holder in the long jump (an Olympian)

Todd Gurley, Ezekial Elliott HS hurdlers.

Just think, as fast as Tyreek Hill is he was no match for Bob Hayes, who played over 50 years ago.

Time to move on from Joe Flacco?

Big Ben about done?

[Avante]

If I'm the Panthers I do all I can to get McGafffrey with ball out in space. Get creative.

Most RB's are too thick legged to out run cornerbacks (yes, not all) but not this guy. I do expect to see a big game out of "White Lightnin' " tonight.

[Avante]

So what have we learned so far?

1.Tom Savage is not the BEST QB IN TEXAS PERIOD

2.All those who do the commercials....end up injured/gone

3.Tyreek Hill is fast.

4.There isn't one team in the league that is THE POWERHOUSE.

5.Deshawn Watson can play.

6.The Pats were stupid letting Blount go.

7.McCaffrey lacks quickness.

8.So many teams and players are up and down, no consistency.

9.Colin Kaepernick is an idiot.

10.My Niners suck.


Some making a big deal about Kareem Hunt being from Toledo. Ignoring the fact the Chiefs have had....

1000 yard rookie rusher Joe DeLaney NWLa.

1000 yard rusher Christian "Nigerian Nightmare" Okoye Azusa Pacific

First stud RB when the Dallas Texans...Abner Haynes North Texas St

The monster Mack "The Truck" Lee Hill Southern U

[Avante]

Speaking of protests.

I grew up about 40 miles east of Lemoore and Tommie Smith. This part of Cali is farming/dairyland. I never saw any racism and ran track, played football with and against blacks. So to think a star athlete like Tommie Smith had to deal with what was going on in the south....it's hard to do.

I worked with a friend of Tommies, Willie Neal*** (uncle of NFLer Lorenzo Neal) he talked about Tommies wife being the real problem and John Carlos who was from Harlem. And in his book...Blackthink....the great Jesse Owens says that exact same thing, it was more bout Tommie trying to please his wife, Carlos and Dr.Harry Edwards.

There is a huge Naval base in Lemoore, and have never heard anything about the mistreatment of blacks out there.

*** ran track with Tommie in HS.

Tommie Smith held 11 WR 's in his day. Histories first sub 44.00 4x4 relayer and the first sub 20.00 200m man. STILL...considered one of the true greats.

[Avante]

Heading into week 8 NOW we have a decent sample size.

Here's how things appear.

Russell Wilson what a stud.

Cam Newton is a freak.

NO....Tom Savage isn't....................

Is there a chance of a Penn SB...Pitt vs Philly?

What a difference coaching makes....Rams~~~

Carson Wentz has...."it".

Joe Flacco...hahahaha~~~

My Niners have never sucked this long and hard.

Better than record....Chargers, Cowboys, Raiders.

Why play Luck at all this season?

Otto Graham will always be the best QB in Browns history.

Notice....all the young QB's can motor, have the ability to run?

If Marshawn Lynch did make the HOF, (or Frank Gore) can ya imagine the DUH~~~ with their acceptance speech?

Bummer we have no.,....Aaron Rodgers, Odell Beckham, Andrew Luck, Julian Edelman, JJ Watt, Greg Olsen.

Obviously the biggest surprise....Kareem Hunt (Chiefs have had a slew of small school stud RB's in the past)

The first 6-7 weeks is pretty much game to game, the guy is GREAT, the guy SUCKS, ha~~~ now we do start seeing how things really are, right about now.

[SpursforSix]

Heading into week 8 NOW we have a decent sample size.

Here's how things appear.

Russell Wilson what a stud.

Cam Newton is a freak.

NO....Tom Savage isn't....................

Is there a chance of a Penn SB...Pitt vs Philly?

What a difference coaching makes....Rams~~~

Carson Wentz has...."it".

Joe Flacco...hahahaha~~~

My Niners have never sucked this long and hard.

Better than record....Chargers, Cowboys, Raiders.

Why play Luck at all this season?

Otto Graham will always be the best QB in Browns history.

Notice....all the young QB's can motor, have the ability to run?

If Marshawn Lynch did make the HOF, (or Frank Gore) can ya imagine the DUH~~~ with their acceptance speech?

Bummer we have no.,....Aaron Rodgers, Odell Beckham, Andrew Luck, Julian Edelman, JJ Watt, Greg Olsen.

Obviously the biggest surprise....Kareem Hunt (Chiefs have had a slew of small school stud RB's in the past)

The first 6-7 weeks is pretty much game to game, the guy is GREAT, the guy SUCKS, ha~~~ now we do start seeing how things really are, right about now.

You're a dumbass. Most young quarterbacks all have some ability to run. The question is are they able to continue to improve their game so they can play into their 30's without having to run.

[Avante]

A dumbass tries to sell a middle school kid running faster than WORLD CLASS sprinters, hahahaha~~~~ ing liar.


Stupid, do you watch NCAA football at all? NO....not all those QB's are mobile, ok stupid?

[SpursforSix]

A dumbass tries to sell a middle school kid running faster than WORLD CLASS sprinters, hahahaha~~~~ ing liar.


Stupid, do you watch NCAA football at all? NO....not all those QB's are mobile, ok stupid?

So you just jumped from NFL quarterbacks to college guys.

[Avante]

So you just jumped from NFL quarterbacks to college guys.

Dude, where does the NFL get it's QB's....well?

Right now if ya knew high school football you'd be seeing the mobile white/black QB's thriving.............now think liar, ok?

[SpursforSix]

Dude, where does the NFL get it's QB's....well?

Right now if ya knew high school football you'd be seeing the mobile white/black QB's thriving.............now think liar, ok?

Here's how this is going to go Sparky. You hump my leg again, and I'm gonna kick your labia. Got it???

[Avante]

Here's how this is going to go Sparky. You hump my leg again, and I'm gonna kick your labia. Got it???

Dude, all you have done today is follow Avante like a teenage girl hot for the drummer, ha~~~~~ You are a sad little who constantly gets trolled, and it's ing funny.


Now here's what you will be doing slick, you will continue to gobble up..."oh no no I'm no pedo".....like the idiot you are. While everyone laughs at your dumb ass...got it?

[SpursforSix]

Dude, all you have done today is follow Avante like a teenage girl hot for the drummer, ha~~~~~ You are a sad little who constantly gets trolled, and it's ing funny.


Now here's what you will be doing slick, you will continue to gobble up..."oh no no I'm no pedo".....like the idiot you are. While everyone laughs at your dumb ass...got it?

Here's how it's gonna go....I'm like Jack Reacher...yep...big dude...
you're like Webster...yep...small black pedo.

You think Webster would ever step to Reacher in real life????? nope

[spurraider21]

Also Tom Cruise was a perfect casting choice for Jack reacher. Anyone who's read the books would agree, yep.

[Avante]

Here's how it's gonna go....I'm like Jack Reacher...yep...big dude...
you're like Webster...yep...small black pedo.

You think Webster would ever step to Reacher in real life????? nope

Then ya wonder why I make fun of ya.

[Avante]

Also Tom Cruise was a perfect casting choice for Jack reacher. Anyone who's read the books would agree, yep.

Dude, why do you always try and talk about things you know....0....about? Real bad habit of yours.

.....

A few years ago I pick up this book at a yard sale by Lee Child.

old lady having the sale.....you'd love him, his hero is a big guy like you.

That was 19 Jack Reacher novels ago.

All thru the stories the size of Reacher 6-5 250 is part of it....ok? Only a fool wouldn't get a guy no bigger than Cruise makes a ridiculous Jack Reacher. Not unlike John Wayne playing Ghangis Khan, which he did. Imagine Tony "Tiny" Lister playing Prince....ha~~~ Lister is massive.

[Avante]

A few things we can put to rest now.

No Cam Newton isn't better than Russell Wilson.

Yes Tom Brady is THE GOAT.

Adrian Peterson is a spoiled brat.

Colin Kaepernick didn't know what was going to happen to him, really?

Tyreek Hill is the fastest player in the NFL. There is nobody in the league he couldn't beat at 100m.

Carson Wentz the best QB eve out of North Dalota State.

Joe Flacco has seen his better days.

The Browns, hahahaha~~~~~

Tarik Cohen has some serious shakes.

NEVER....put too much into the first few weeks of a new season. Tom Savage....hahahahaha~~~~

[SpursforSix]

Dude, why do you always try and talk about things you know....0....about? Real bad habit of yours.

.....

A few years ago I pick up this book at a yard sale by Lee Child.

old lady having the sale.....you'd love him, his hero is a big guy like you.

That was 19 Jack Reacher novels ago.

All thru the stories the size of Reacher 6-5 250 is part of it....ok? Only a fool wouldn't get a guy no bigger than Cruise makes a ridiculous Jack Reacher. Not unlike John Wayne playing Ghangis Khan, which he did. Imagine Tony "Tiny" Lister playing Prince....ha~~~ Lister is massive.

So...you picked up a Child at a yard sale?

[SpursforSix]

So who would you suggest play Jack Reacher? Arnold??

[SpursforSix]

Also Tom Cruise was a perfect casting choice for Jack reacher. Anyone who's read the books would agree, yep.

Yep. Reacher's size was in his mind. He was shortish...pet e even.