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8 TOs chasing the assists.Westbrick tonight: 36 fg% 8 turnovers
And a big fat L at the expense of the real MVP Kawhi
Westbrick tonight: 36 fg% 8 turnovers
And a big fat L at the expense of the real MVP Kawhi
8 TOs chasing the assists.Westbrick tonight: 36 fg% 8 turnovers
And a big fat L at the expense of the real MVP Kawhi
Aldridge swatted his several times in the paint...
Oklahoma wins this game if Russell plays within himself instead of going for the triple double. He makes it painfully obvious what he's doing. That entire team should be ing ass raped by a thorny ed caco-demon and they probably will be in the first round. Every one of those players bending over taking it up the ass so that Russell can get his triple-double. What other story would come out of that meth infested hole?
No they are
They might be good enough for today's NBA fans but ultimately they suck
So Russell does everything on his own? Is this what you're saying? 5 guys on the floor and 4 of them are , but that one guy, he can guard every position, make every shot, get every rebound, play 48 minutes a night?
There's nothing wrong with his team. He's just a cancer like Kobe was. Kobe didn't start being a cancer after Shaq left, or after Pau went soft. He was always one.
Remember this?
But yeah, Westbrook is playing with scrubs while Harden has the 92 dream team. Sure.Actually caring about preseason predictions once the games start being played... newsflash: they don't give out trophies for the likes of Stephen A. Smith and Chris Broussard picking you to win lots of games.
Fact is, based on the actual games that count, Westbrook IS playing with scrubs and Frauden DOES have a stacked team.
There is only one other player on the Thunder besides Westbrook with a positive BPM, and it's Steven Adams at +0.6. Westbrook's BPM is +15.2. Literally everyone else on the team either has a negative impact or no impact at all. Take Russ off that team and they're worse than the Nets.
Meanwhile, on the Rockets: Frauden, Beverley, Ariza, Harrell, Capela, and Nenê are all making a postive impact on the court. And Houston is so stacked that when Frauden goes to the bench, they are +4.8 in net points per 100 possessions and +69 overall. In contrast, when Westbrook goes to the bench, the Thunder are -9.4 per 100 possessions and -185 overall.
The facts are clear. Westbrook, you the real MVP. Frauden is one of the most fraudulent MVP candidates in league history. The Thunder would be a lottery team with Frauden instead of Westbrook, and the Rockets would be a real contender with Westbrook instead of Frauden.
Yep, that's the word I would use and have been using myself the past few weeks. If his triple doubles were organic and coming within the flow of the game, I'd give him the MVP right now, but I really don't think they are. I was always wondering if Oscar Robertson was trying to get triple doubles, and I got my answer a few weeks ago when I saw an interview with him where he said that he wasn't actively trying to get them, they just came within the flow of the game for him.
Don't get me wrong, what Russell is doing is amazing, but the triple doubles themselves, are a little bit artificial, IMO.
Last edited by Ice009; 04-01-2017 at 10:02 AM.
The rebounds are the real scam. His points are his pure and simple, even if he takes too many shots. However he's stealing rebounds from others, and oddly his hometown scorers gift him assists at a higher clip than the road scorers do.
Their road vs home record doesn't make much sense other than the fact that role players usually do better at home, so if Russ has ty role players, why isn't there more of a balance between home and road wins?
The rebound fixation is coming from people who don't watch Westbrook or the Thunder play closely enough. Westbrook isn't "stealing" rebounds, he's getting them by design. Donovan wants the ball in Westbrook's hands as quickly as possible so he can orchestrate the offense. It's a strategy that many teams use now with their guards.
I wonder why people weren't parsing every rebound to see if it was "organic" or not back when Kevin Love was in his statpadding prime. Remember the narrative that Love was better than Blake Griffin because "muh rebounds"? Meanwhile, Love was boxing his own teammates out and refusing to contest shots at the rim so he could pad his rebounds. There was no strategic purpose for him doing this, just pure selfishness on his part - artificially inflating his raw box-score numbers in the hopes that he'd be more attractive to other teams.
This is the big one. Instead of the Russian hacks, this is what should really be investigated.
It's just odd that both his rebounds AND assists are right at 10pg.
"Westbrook is almost never contesting shots, instead he’s leaving his man open and blatantly attacking the paint in search of defensive rebounds with a numbers advantage. Beyond this, the entire rebounding culture of the team has been centered around the bigs boxing out and deferring rebounds to Westbrook. Additionally, due to his position being perimeter oriented, his constant search of rebounds has compromised OKC’s perimeter defense, which ranks dead last in the NBA in opp. guards expected FG% by a considerable margin.
Finally, and probably the most damning statistic, is that 7.0 of Westbrook’s 10.4 rebounds per game are coming on missed FGA from 13+ feet. The largest proportion of those, 4.2, are from 19+ feet. That number ranks 4th in the NBA behind only Whiteside, Jordan, and Drummond. 83% of those rebounds on misses from 19+ feet are uncontested rebounds, meaning Westbrook had 0 compe ion for the board.
Why is a point guard able to grab rebounds on missed long shots without contest so frequently? Why is he not guarding the opposing point guard when there’s a FGA so far away from the basket? The opposing PG obviously isn’t in the paint next to Westbrook, or the rebound wouldn’t be uncontested. Is he just abandoning his man when a player has the ball on the perimeter and is likely to shoot?"
http://dailythunder.com/russell-west...g-accusations/
Just look at all that semen shielding. Of particular note is this part though:
Every player’s stats in the NBA aren’t authentic. Every player is chasing numbers to some degree. Kevin Durant buzzer-clutched his way to a 50-40-90 season.
As for Donovan:
"I asked Donovan about this exact thing (not playing defense so he can chase rebounds) early in the season and his answer was simple: If he thought Westbrook was doing this, it would be something addressed in film. But he hasn’t seen it as an issue, and nothing statistically speaking suggests it is."
But I'll play Devil's advocate and say it's CIADonovan: Doesn't that mean the Thunder are gaming the system, that Russ' stats are not organic? Of course, so that's not even a decent rebuttal.
- Take more shots, score more points
- Game rebound system, grab more boards
- Cherry pick your passes for assists, sacrificing turnovers - get more assists
I guess there's always that side story in the game, because face it - there's only a couple interesting matchups in the league and that only happens a couple times a year.
Nothing amazing there, just pathetic that anyone falls for the .
But yeah... MVP Westbrook.. what a beast
Gaming the rebound stat padding system
Legit? If so, why is OKC the 2nd worst team in the league for DRB on missed FTs yet Russ is head and shoulders above even the top centers in rebounds off missed FTs?
Is OKC playing the marketing angle with Russ?
It's funny how CN s on players like Kirby but semen shields for Westbrook
Horrible comparison. Westbrook is a legitimate superstar and an alpha who makes his team better. Kobe was an overglorified role player who made the teams he played on worse.It's funny how CN s on players like Kirby but semen shields for Westbrook
Westbrook is gaming a system that allows him to game it. He's nothing more than a freak athlete with average basketball skills and below average IQ. Everyone is overglorified to you.. now you're saying a guy with 2 Finals MVPs and 5 rings is a role player. That s all over your take with Klay Thompson. Nice to see how off bubble you are though. It helps me weigh your takes.
It's a gimmick and anyone who cannot see that is re ed.
Still, it's better than tanking. I still respect Russ for playing hard every night and if he can squeeze some engineered awards out of the season at the expense of team success, good for him. Still a gimmick though. I'd like to see the MVP actually go to someone who's making a difference in the standings, in the league - someone who isn't gaming the system for stats. Rewarding that kind of exploitation is bad for the league.
Anyone who thinks it's a team strategy must also think it's a team strategy for Russ to ball hog in the AS game and try to get the scoring record as well (was blocked by a coach that benched him and a team that favored Davis instead).
Russ will never be liked in the NBA.
WB ..........
Once again, lands right at 10 assists.
Surprised he did magically get one while he was on the bench by the hometown scorers.
His game changed as soon as he hit the triple double. If it's a scheme drawn up by the coach, it must only matter when Russ doesn't yet have the triple double.Once again, lands right at 10 assists.
Surprised he did magically get one while he was on the bench by the hometown scorers.
^Stat watcher, never saw a game in his life.WB ..........
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