Shams: Jonathon Simmons Agrees to 3-yr Deal w/Orlando Magic

[TD 21]

It was obvious Pop and Simmons "didn't get along". Simmons is damn near the an hesis of a prototypical Spur. I remember the media asking him last season, after he had been benched and returned to the rotation, if he learned anything and he responded "nope". He was also dismissive when asked about Pop at All-Star weekend. It was played off as if it were a joke, but you could tell it wasn't.

Dedmon and Simmons (since he clearly never wanted to be a Spur, I'm glad he's gone) obviously weren't determining this team's fate, but the way their situations played out reaffirms this organization's narrow mindedness and is going to continue to make it difficult to appeal to prominent players, most of whom don't fit their culture.

He'll be buried on that Orlando bench though. Behind Fournier, Ross, Isaac and even Hezonja if he finally pulls his head out of his arse.

He's probably got the inside track to being the third wing. Isaac will likely be brought along slowly and is a combo forward, while Hezonja played PF late last season and they're clearly at the point where they're not giving him anything.

[SAGirl]

Kyle Anderson will never see that kind of money

It depends on how the off-season looks next year, but I would not be surprised to see Anderson make more than that. Spurs fans hate him a lot more than the average person does.

He's also a younger guy. He's still getting better and with more opportunities, and work put in, will become more consistent. He stands to make more over his career bc he's younger and has more time to get paid. That also probably makes him less desperate and unlikely to bet against himself and the market. If he's worth a small/moderate contract next season he can afford to take a 1 and 1 of a 2 year deal and at the end of it, STILL be just 25 or 26 and likely entering his prime and who knows how he could look at that point. The hate in coachmac runs strong. For a coach, he ain't that saavy... something others have remarked in this forum too.

[phxspurfan]

Patty who always disappears in the playoffs

Patty's 2014 championship ring says otherwise

[Robz4000]

Patty's 2014 championship ring says otherwise

*Pre-shoulder injury Patty

[Texas_Ranger]

I will miss his 6 pts per game.

I also wouldn't be surprised if the Magic trade him in half a year.

[SAGirl]

I was kidding..just had to take part in the "player fan" debate lol

no you had to take part in the cheap trolling ... don't be shy now.

[apalisoc_9]

It was obvious Pop and Simmons "didn't get along". Simmons is damn near the an hesis of a prototypical Spur. I remember the media asking him last season, after he had been benched and returned to the rotation, if he learned anything and he responded "nope". He was also dismissive when asked about Pop at All-Star weekend. It was played off as if it were a joke, but you could tell it wasn't.

Dedmon and Simmons (since he clearly never wanted to be a Spur, I'm glad he's gone) obviously weren't determining this team's fate, but the way their situations played out reaffirms this organization's narrow mindedness and is only going to make it more difficult to appeal to prominent players, most of whom don't fit their culture.




He's probably got the inside track to being the third wing. Isaac will likely be brought along slowly and is a combo forward, while Hezonja played PF late last season and they're clearly at the point where they're not giving him anything.

PATFO hates players that can potentially take away the attention from the organization. They want the credit all to themselves. Pop and RC loves to get stroked. They're not the innocent angles your average whataburger and American fans think they are.

They're lucky Kawhi and TD allows things like this to happen.

That's why I firmly believe that a player look kawhi's caliber would most likely leave the organization if they continue to dampen his opportunity fpr insividual success with these stupid learning lessons.

Players have egos and care about individual recognition. All players do.

[HarlemHeat37]

Pretty fitting that he was signed by the team that spent a ton on Bismack Biyombo based on a handful of playoff games

Sucks, though, wanted to keep him..

[coachmac87]

no you had to take part in the cheap trolling ... don't be shy now.

No hard feelings

[coachmac87]

PATFO hates players that can potentially take away the attention from the organization. They want the credit all to themselves. Pop and RC loves to get stroked. They're not the innocent angles your average whataburger and American fans think they are.

They're lucky Kawhi and TD allows things like this to happen.

That's why I firmly believe that a player look kawhi's caliber would most likely leave the organization if they continue to dampen his opportunity fpr insividual success with these stupid learning lessons.

Players have egos and care about individual recognition. All players do.

Loved to get stroked huh??? Is that why you create so many crap attention threads?

[FkLA]

*Pre-shoulder injury Patty

No sir. He played through the injury during that run. That's why he wore that black sleeve on his shoulder. Had the surgery after he rang like an alpha.

[Hoops Czar]

I will miss his 6 pts per game.

I also wouldn't be surprised if the Magic trade him in half a year.

[gambit1990]

i called that patty would stay and simmons wouldn't months ago.

[spurs10]

I'm thinking he was renounced by PATFO so he could seek a great paying three year deal. Pop changed Simmon's life. Doubt there is animosity there. No one else was giving him a chance.

If Pop hated him so much why let him showcase his talents in the playoffs and offer him a QO?

[ElNono]

Told you a guy with that athleticism was going to get paid in this league... plus even if he loses 80 games, he'll have a better marquee to show himself there, tbh...

The Spurs nickel and diming him though is kinda ridiculous, they could've signed him for that and then trade him mid-season. Dude had a good reputation...

They basically let him walk with nothing to show for it...

[Dverde]

It's all about his four daughters. Lot's of amusement parks. Fiesta Texas sucks.

[FkLA]

Apparently according to Marc Spears, Pop and Simmons didn't get along. Poop didn't like Simmons' showboating after dunks and Simmons felt restrained here. Reminds me of Dedmon getting pulled out in the playoffs after showing too much heart and fire.

Nah that. I defended Juice till the end but if he doesn't get along with PopaGOAT and isn't down with the culture than he can off. Pop expecting professionalism from his guys isn't too much to ask, imo. Especially when that's a huge reason the Spurs are the model of conaistency.

[Chinook]

Told you a guy with that athleticism was going to get paid in this league... plus even if he loses 80 games, he'll have a better marquee to show himself there, tbh...

The Spurs nickel and diming him though is kinda ridiculous, they could've signed him for that and then trade him mid-season. Dude had a good reputation...

They basically let him walk with nothing to show for it...

Again, the Spurs didn't have the option of paying Simmons what Orlando gave him, at least there's no reason to expect that to be the case. Simmons would have been fighting for a rotation spot for the Spurs, a team he grew up hating whose coach he reportedly dislikes. He got into what he feels is a better situation. He may well have taken less to get there.

I'm really glad that they didn't sign him in order to trade him. One, he may have fallen out of the rotation again. Two, he would have prevented Pau from getting paid enough to keep his contract to one year. They tried to S&T him but didn't find a deal that made sense to them. They've already gotten a more proven player to take his place. Letting him walk is fine, though I did want him traded in October last year.

[ElNono]

He really didn't get paid that much, tbh

Almost $7m guaranteed per year is not terrible money either for a guy scrapped from the bottom of the trash pile that's signing his first FA contract. He's basically making about 2x what Gary Neal made on his first non-Spurs deal, and I don't thin he had anywhere near the exposure Gary did.

He basically made the league.

[gambit1990]

would MUCH rather have simmons than parker.

[dabom]

No sir. He played through the injury during that run. That's why he wore that black sleeve on his shoulder. Had the surgery after he rang like an alpha.

I don't remember him making excuses too like a certain player we know.

[ElNono]

Again, the Spurs didn't have the option of paying Simmons what Orlando gave him, at least there's no reason to expect that to be the case. Simmons would have been fighting for a rotation spot for the Spurs, a team he grew up hating whose coach he reportedly dislikes. He got into what he feels is a better situation. He may well have taken less to get there.

I'm really glad that they didn't sign him in order to trade him. One, he may have fallen out of the rotation again. Two, he would have prevented Pau from getting paid enough to keep his contract to one year. They tried to S&T him but didn't find a deal that made sense to them. They've already gotten a more proven player to take his place. Letting him walk is fine, though I did want him traded in October last year.

I thought the Spurs could match anything before they decided to make him a UFA?

[tonight...you]

I'm not happy, or sad either way. He doesn't move the needle for the team either way and I don't care how he fares through life, as a person. That's up to him.

This is one big snore-fest.

[tonight...you]

I thought the Spurs could match anything before they decided to make him a UFA?

Dude...

[Chinook]

I thought the Spurs could match anything before they decided to make him a UFA?

Yes, and he got that deal after they made him a UFA. Likely, Orlando didn't want to give him an offer sheet, and he didn't want SA to match even if they did.