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Sorry I should have replied to clooneyschick04
She mentioned how much more Spirit S.A. had for the Saints. I don't make stuff up for my arguments.
Seriously, I'm really sick of Saints fans right about now. I'm hoping we land the team just to piss them off.
Sorry I should have replied to clooneyschick04
She mentioned how much more Spirit S.A. had for the Saints. I don't make stuff up for my arguments.
And you would have been pissed as had you lost the Spurs because of it wouldn't you?
Perhaps, but it was your wonderful city that was trying to pull it off.
Payback's a....
You know...I didn't really like the NBA back then or now for that matter. But I wish we would have got the Spurs back then just to piss you off.
Pot meet kettle.
If we would have got your team you would still be red faced about it. I don't see how you can't put yourself in our shoes. Especially since you have been through with the Spurs what we are going through now with the Saints.
We didn't steal your team...in fact you got a new arena out of it. Be thankfull not grudgefull.
Then maybe you'll get a new stadium out of this. So don't come in here and tell us how San Antonio is looting your precious city.
Isn't stealing still stealing? Is it ok for someone to try and woo a team away from a another city?
This situation sucks, and I feel bad for you folks losing yet another part of your city to Hurricane Katrina in the Saints. But all of my brethren here calling this payback for the 1998 wooing of the Spurs are out of your minds. Nobody in Louisiana voted for a natural disaster to hit, but San Antonians shot down the Longhorn Quarry project in the voting booth for the most part becuase they just finished paying for the Alamodome not even five years prior.
San Antonio's leadership is taking advantage of a reeling New Orleans in a distasteful fashion with the consent of the teams slimy-ass owner. Those of you that are proud of it, that's your business. I personally think it's a little classless.
So then J-6, you feel it was just as wrong for N.O. to try and get the Spurs back then as well.
J6, we're talking about businesses!! How would it be different to woo a corporation from any other city? This is what happens when people try to lump sports and their owners into different catagories as other for profit ventures but thats simply not the case.
San Antonio has done its share - way more than its share - helping out the people of NOLA. If they and the people of America or anyone else for that matter have trouble understanding that and choose to paint this town as villanous, so be it.
Taking the argument a bit further, shouldn't it be decreed that no company shall relocate its operations from NO?
Hopefully we will...
I said San Antonio is attempting to loot or trying to steal the Saints. I never said they were.
Oh and don't think the same thing wasn't said about N.O. back then either. I know it was.
I was never mad at New Orleans.
Most people in N.O. would rather you stay out of it completely if you are going to steal our Saints.
We don't need your help if the end result is going to be the New Orleans Saints in San Antonio.
Of course, because NOLA supported those businesses they must now take a loss and not attempt any relocation regardless of how much it may benefit said business lest the reciving city be classified as a looter.
Heres one of the articles, and i need to find the rest....Theres is also another one where the MAYOR of BR said you'd have to be drunk to watch the Saints when they were talking about not opening the Bars for the Saints game....In this article it was Chancellor Sean O'Keefe who voiced his opinions...Sounds like they are more concerned at getting money out of the Saints..By the way, i don't need to make myself feel better because i have no remorse for any of you anymore:
http://www.lsureveille.com/vnews/di...8/43548264649d3
"O’Keefe unhappy with Saints in Tiger Stadium
LSU to ask Saints for compensation
By Parker Wishik
Sports Contributor
October 18, 2005
It seems the marriage between LSU and the New Orleans Saints is not as harmonious as previously thought.
Chancellor Sean O’Keefe expressed at an Oct. 11 Faculty Staff Senate meeting his displeasure with the Saints’ deal with the University to play four home games at Tiger Stadium.
“We’d rather not have the games here at all,” he said at the meeting. “This is going to be a real problem and we are not excited about this prospect.”
O’Keefe called the situation a “huge logistical nightmare” and worried about the field conditions of Tiger Stadium.
“This will not be a windfall for the University,” he said. “There is not to my knowledge any instance where there was a good experience for a university that had a professional football team play on its campus.”
O’Keefe seemed to alter from his earlier stance on the Saints’ situation. On Sept. 13, he told The Advocate the University was “delighted to have the cir stances, as well as the venue, to do that.”
“What we intend to convey from the University’s perspective is that we were happy to be able to help the state and the Saints find a venue so that we could continue professional football in the state of Louisiana, as opposed to continuing football in the state of Texas,” said Michael Ruffner, Vice Chancellor for communications and media relations.
Greg Aiello, Vice President of Public Relations for the National Football League, said “it was not possible” for all games to be played at LSU.
“But the other side of it was that there was a great desire on everyone’s part to play some games in Louisiana, and LSU was the best alternative,” Aiello said. “It’s not a situation anyone wants to be in.”
The NFL’s decision is not unprecedented.
When Soldier Field in Chicago was renovated in 2002, the Chicago Bears played a full eight-game home schedule at the University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign’s Memorial Stadium.
“I think it worked out for us,” said University of Illinois Chancellor Richard Herman. “We did have some worries in the beginning, but I think it brought more business into town and really didn’t alter life on campus or for the community.”
The NFL’s Arizona Cardinals have also played their home games at Arizona State University’s Sun Devil Stadium since 1988. Sun Devil Stadium also hosted an impromptu NFL game between the San Diego Chargers and Miami Dolphins on Oct. 27, 2003 after California wildfires made conditions unfavorable for a game in San Diego.
“We have climactic situations here such that it’s very wet and humid; the field gets dug up very quickly,” Ruffner said. “That may not be the case up in Illinois. We have in fact discussed and have an agreement that I believe [the Saints] are going to refurbish the field at least twice.”
Herman also said Memorial Stadium was in good condition after the Bears’ games.
Herman said the University of Illinois did receive extra profit, which was used for locker room and scoreboard maintenance.
“It is in fact true that the University will not be profitized on this game,” Ruffner said. “All we’re going to do is ask the Saints and the NFL to compensate the University for expenditures that we incurred in staging the game at Tiger Stadium.”
LSU Associate Athletic Director Herb Vincent said the NFL took the wildfire situation into account when giving four Saints games to Tiger Stadium.
“There are some logistical issues that are very obvious especially with a game like that,” he said. “It’s accurate that it’s not going to be a windfall, but there will be some additional revenues coming our way.”
The Saints open their Baton Rouge schedule on Oct. 30 against the Miami Dolphins and former LSU head football coach Nick Saban."
They do no even want 8 games there and you ppl want the Saints to maybe play a season there till your stadium is built????
See, now your pride and righteousness is really making you look stupid. You would rather have an NFL team than have emergency shelter care?
You've lost any shred of credibility you ever had.
No, not really. It took three tries for the city (and Bexar County) to get an arena deal for the Spurs and they dallied all the way until November of 1999, when the team was beginning its inaugural defense of the NBA le. Remember when they wanted to build next door to the Alamodome after the Quarry idea got shot down before that as well?
San Antonio couldn't get their together due to bureaucracy and wishy-washy public opinion for a new arena. Eventually they did, the team was happy, and we're happy because of it. New Orleans and the Saints' Superdome got hit with a Category Five Act of God and San Antonio is taking their team while the city is face down in the water. There's a bit of a difference, at least in my eyes.
So then you would have been ok with the Spurs leaving back then.
So then j6 you are of the opinion no business should relocate regardless of business considerations due to Katrina?
No, I would rather have our NFL team and emergency shelter care.
My comments are trying to express to you how important the Saints are to the community that is affected.
So you are so righteous that you think just because you provide assistance for the storm that you have a right to court our NFL team?
(You're making me sound like TheWriter, NOLA edition or something)
I do see your point.
Wooing any sort of corporation from present-day New Orleans shouldn't be a difficult task, as we all know how many have moved to Baton Rouge, Houston, or elsewhere, but that doesn't make it right. Entergy is the only New Orleans based Fortune 500-class company I can think of, and they are the utility provider for that entire region. So it's not like they are going anywhere. Still, New Orleans needs every bit of positive economic impact she can get her hands on.
There are only 32 teams in the National Football League, and Louisiana has had one since 1967, only seven years less than Dallas has had the Cowboys. There's some civic pride involved, and I know that doesn't do for disaster relief or whatnot. But it is a positive beacon for the community, something for them to look forward to, and they've gone through what must seem like on earth.
Taking the Saints away without ever giving Orleanians the chance to do anything about it in the aftermath of Katrina is harsh, but I guess SA feels it is necessary if they ever want a team.
No, I think we have that right regardless because we live under capitalism. It has nothing to with helping you or not helping you.
No, and no.
The Spurs and Bexar County took care of their stadium situation well before serious discussions with McDermott/Holt (I forget who was in charge) and the New Orleans city leadership. I would have been severely pissed if they were taken out of town over a failed stadium vote. Now SA is lusting over the Saints without even giving NO a chance to respond, and the worst part is that the owner is in on it, and he's treating the Gulf Coast like an old buddy that put on sixty pounds and had a masectomy.
A sports franchise is different than just some other generic business en y. Like I said earlier, I see your point, but I just think differently. I don't have a Valero Energy or a American Airlines flag hanging off my front porch like I would a Spurs or a Longhorn banner. People identify with your town with your team. When I used to go to New York people had never heard of San Antonio. Now when I bring up my hometown they know exactly what I mean. It's Benson's money and his team. He can do whatever the he wants with it. I just think he could do a lot of good for a lot of miserable people by sacking up and openly discussing matters rather than not commenting on New Orleans and her plight, and holding hands with the mayor of San Antonio.
Capitalism at what costs?
Be careful what you wish for, it may just happen to you.
Don't for one minute think that the same thing could not happen to your Spurs.
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