Hey kids, let me show you proof that God's real

[Blake]

when you bog down a thread with an otherwise meaningful discussion into "lol ur stupid for believing in god" then you're being a jerk to the forum

Lol meaningful discussion.

Check thread le, jerk. You bogged down my thread with astrophysics crap nobody asked for.

[ElNono]

Evolution as a means to existence is nothing but faith, bro. Deifying it while writing off creationism is the ultimate in intellectual laziness and dogma.

Then you have no idea what the theory of Evolution is. That's an education problem, not a faith or dogma problem.

[Chucho]

[spurraider21]

Good one, jerk.

Lol meaningful discussion.

Check thread le, jerk.

Lol angry

[Spurminator]

I feel like Derptacular is on a mission to be on the wrong side of every argument. Is it for the attention?

[Blake]

when you bog down a thread with an otherwise meaningful discussion into "lol ur stupid for believing in god" then you're being a jerk to the forum

Stop bogging down my thread, jerk.

[spurraider21]

Stop bogging down my thread, jerk.

my thread

now everybody needs your permission before submitting a post?

the discussion moved on because a story about a car accident wasn't interesting. its why you don't have a single post about it since the OP. and you have gone and shifted it to yet another boring pissing contest that you've been in hundreds of times. such interesting

[Chucho]

my thread

now everybody needs your permission before submitting a post?

the discussion moved on because a story about a car accident wasn't interesting. its why you don't have a single post about it since the OP. and you have gone and shifted it to yet another boring pissing contest that you've been in hundreds of times. such interesting

[mingus]

can you explain how you know it?

or what has gotten you from "devout belief" to "knowing" it

Because I disobeyed God. God punished me.

Do you know what “Israel” means?

It means “struggle with God”

Those that struggle with God the most, get to know God the most.

[Spurtacular]

Are you a scientist?

Nope. But if I were, I wouldn't make hasty revelations to quell my bias.

[spurraider21]

Because I disobeyed God. God punished me.

and there are no other possible explanations of what went down other than "the very god as described in the bible actively punished me?"

i'm legitimately curious... if you dont want to post it here but are more comfortable via pm, that would be cool

Do you know what “Israel” means?

It means “struggle with God”

Those that struggle with God the most, get to know God the most.

you can see how that statement on its own doesn't evidence anything, right? you are just stating your belief. it would be the equivalent of me saying "its all fake/wrong." that itself doesn't evidence whether or not it is fake/wrong.

[spurraider21]

Nope. But if I were, I wouldn't make hasty revelations to quell my bias.

[Spurtacular]

Then you have no idea what the theory of Evolution is. That's an education problem, not a faith or dogma problem.

I know what it is. And I know that it is not an absolute truth. If you think so, then you're going on faith.

[Pavlov]

I know what it is. And I know that it is not an absolute truth. If you think so, then you're going on faith.

What is the scientific basis for creationism?

[spurraider21]

I know what it is. And I know that it is not an absolute truth. If you think so, then you're going on faith.

incredibly unlikely and bordering on impossible given your posts in this thread so far

[mingus]

I realize that. But it’s true. It’s been true for me anyway.

A lot of stuff has happened in my life. It’s not just one single event.

Having the answer as to whether God exists or not isn’t important for all of us. If you want to pm me then feel free to. But, the way I see it is, you’ll find out for yourself one day. And it won’t be because of me. It will because God wants you to know.

[Spurtacular]

This demonstrates a misunderstanding of the scientific method.

The theory of evolution was able to be developed only because the available evidence led to the conclusion that species have changed over time. The reason evolution is still a working theory hundreds of years later is because even in the present, after many discoveries and emergence of new new evidence (most significantly, genetics) it’s the only theory we have that is consistent with the entire body of evidence.

That's a sweeping "conclusion" that half asses the scientific method at best. Evolution and creationism are both theories having merit. If you embrace one and denounce the other, you are doing it on faith. Don't delude yourself into thinking otherwise.

[baseline bum]

That's a sweeping "conclusion" that half asses the scientific method at best. Evolution and creationism are both theories having merit. If you embrace one and denounce the other, you are doing it on faith. Don't delude yourself into thinking otherwise.

Should the theory that you molest kids still be taught in science class too?

[SpursforSix]

Nope. But if I were, I wouldn't make hasty revelations to quell my bias.

But for real...I understand all of these words on their own. But not the sentence itself.

[spurraider21]

I realize that. But it’s true. It’s been true for me anyway.

i have no idea what that means. it's either a truth or it isn't. the sky isn't blue "for me." it's just blue. unless you're colorblind. and even then, you can observe the wavelength of light absored/reflected and determine its in that part of the spectrum. it can be objectively, neutrally verified. what's "true for me" or "true for you" doesn't fit that description

A lot of stuff has happened in my life. It’s not just one single event.

Having the answer as to whether God exists or not isn’t important for all of us. If you want to pm me then feel free to.

it's clearly important enough to you, as you have already come to that determination. and yes, if a god that judges us for eternity exists, that's a pretty important development

curious to know how you know that the existence of the biblical god is the only explanation consistent with your experience

[Spurtacular]

What is the scientific basis for creationism?

Essentially it's the whole gamut of science. The more one learns about the exquisite and delicate computations that enable life as we know it, the more silly it becomes to consider this to be such a ridiculously unlikely happenstance.

[spurraider21]

That's a sweeping "conclusion" that half asses the scientific method at best. Evolution and creationism are both theories having merit. If you embrace one and denounce the other, you are doing it on faith. Don't delude yourself into thinking otherwise.

you've been asked to spit out some scientific basis for creationism and haven't stepped up to the plate.

evolution is a product of the scientific method, because it only existed as a theory as a result of evidence and discovery. creationism isn't a product of the scientific method because it is not derived from evidence, but rather, holy texts.

[SpursforSix]

Essentially it's the whole gamut of science. The more one learns about the exquisite and delicate computations that enable life as we know it, the more silly it becomes to consider this to be such a ridiculously unlikely happenstance.

Ok...I get it.

[spurraider21]

Essentially it's the whole gamut of science. The more one learns about the exquisite and delicate computations that enable life as we know it, the more silly it becomes to consider this to be such a ridiculously unlikely happenstance.

take a die and roll it 10 times. record your results.

the odds of you rolling that sequence was 1 in 60,466,176

does that mean a god must have stepped in and controlled the die? because thats pretty in improbable

[mingus]

It isn’t the only possible explanation but it’s by far the most logical one.

With that knowledge, comes a lot of responsibility. God didn’t for whatever reason want you to have that responsibility. So I wouldn’t worry about it too much.