Knife Control

[DMC]

yeah, i didnt think that was worth addressing tbh

No, you tried to change my words when that didn't work for you, you just decided you were right by default.

[DMC]

still using that age old semantics argument.

Actually the semantics argument is happening from your side. I've never seen a gun go to trial. The anti-gun crowd uses that semantics argument to argue against guns because they lose when they argue against people. People have second amendment rights, guns don't.

[spurraider21]

No, you tried to change my words when that didn't work for you, you just decided you were right by default.

i didnt change your words. i just didn't see a meaningful difference between having the ability to respond to a crisis and knowing you can respond to a crisis.

[DMC]

i didnt change your words. i just didn't see a meaningful difference between having the ability to respond to a crisis and knowing you can respond to a crisis.

So you changed my words because strawmen are easy.

Sense != knowing. You did it again.

[spurraider21]

So you changed my words because strawmen are easy.

no. i dont see a meaningful difference between the ability to respond to a crisis and the sense of security... knowing you can respond to the crisis. especially in the context of this discussion

[Spurminator]

Actually the semantics argument is happening from your side. I've never seen a gun go to trial. The anti-gun crowd uses that semantics argument to argue against guns because they lose when they argue against people. People have second amendment rights, guns don't.

That's not what a semantics argument is

[spurraider21]

[DMC]

That's not what a semantics argument is

I'm not the one making the argument. I stated my case.

1. If sense of security is the same as ability to respond how can sense of security be false when ability to respond cannot be?

2. If they are the same why must your side continue to you say sense of security instead of ability to respond? Why do you draw a distinction?

Remember, I told you why I carry a gun then the disagreement started as words were altered to try to create some leg to stand on for your side. Yes it's your side because here you are defending it.

If it's so silly, stop changing my words. It's pretty simple.

[DMC]

no. i dont see a meaningful difference between the ability to respond to a crisis and the sense of security... knowing you can respond to the crisis. especially in the context of this discussion

Which one of those equals a false sense of security?

[DMC]

You're so edgy

[DMX7]

It's not such a leap when you consider the logic to ban the AR-15 is so weak and can be applied to numerous things. Furthermore, many are becoming self hating American's that look to countries banning knifes and locking up owners of nazi dogs as the blueprint to what our country should be.

The logic is not weak. It seems to be a weapon of choice for some of the most effective mass murderers -- and I'm sure there's good reason for that.

[spurraider21]

lets arm our cops and soldiers with knives and alcohol instead of guns. just as deadly according to nathan

[ElNono]

lets arm our cops and soldiers with knives and alcohol instead of guns. just as deadly according to nathan

swimming pools, IMO

[ElNono]

Ready for action, tbh #BlueLivesMatter

[DMC]

lets arm our cops and soldiers with knives and alcohol instead of guns. just as deadly according to nathan

Let's instill in them a sense of security. It's indistinguishable from giving them the ability to defend the nation according to you.

"****NORAD ALERT....THIS IS NOT A DRILL....SENSES OF SECURITY HAVE BEEN DETECTED FLYING OVER ALASKA WITH TRAJECTORIES TOWARD MAINLAND US..."

[spurraider21]

Let's instill in them a sense of security. It's indistinguishable from giving them the ability to defend the nation according to you.

"****NORAD ALERT....THIS IS NOT A DRILL....SENSES OF SECURITY HAVE BEEN DETECTED FLYING OVER ALASKA WITH TRAJECTORIES TOWARD MAINLAND US..."

no. i dont see a meaningful difference between the ability to respond to a crisis and the sense of security... knowing you can respond to the crisis. especially in the context of this discussion

[Chris]

London's murder rate was low even before the hand gun ban of 1997. Only since there has been an influx of a certain type of 'migrant' (jihadi) have we seen such extraordinary numbers on par with the great New York City.

[DMC]

Gun ownership gives people a false sense of security. Statistically more likely to accidentally injure yourself or a family member than be used in self defense

Police protection gives people a false sense of security since you're more likely to be arrested and jailed or killed by an assailant than having a cop come to your rescue in time to save you.

Carrying a gun isn't about having a sense of security. It's about having the ability to respond under crisis situation if one ever developed. You might still not respond, you might not respond properly, but you have the ability to do so.

It's always the non-gun crowd who thinks having a gun is to invoke a feeling.

its not about sense of security, it’s about knowing you can respond to a crisis


I own a gun tbh. Didn’t spend money on one, my dad handed it down. Though will probably get rid of it when my family size grows beyond 2

no. i dont see a meaningful difference between the ability to respond to a crisis and the sense of security... knowing you can respond to the crisis. especially in the context of this discussion

This is Philo creating a strawman and then arguing against it.

The new argument Philo has created is that "knowing you can respond" = "sense of security" yet in his opening statement he called it a "false sense of security" . He first used the term "knowing you can respond" and credited it to me, then later acted as if it's the same as "sense of security", yet both are equal to "ability to respond".

He's refused to answer how a false sense of security can equal the ability to respond.

Philo likes to pretend he stay in the high ground middle but he dumpster dives just like the rest when cornered.

[spurraider21]

This isn’t an interesting discussion tbh. Constantly trip over semantics stead of taking the discussion anywhere remotely worthwhile

people think the guns keep them safe (sense of security) but it’s more likely to hurt them than protect them ergo false sense of security

instead of just disagreeing, dmc decides to break it down letter by letter and meticulously argue stupid

[Spurminator]

semantics

[AaronY]

Okay maybe this whole thing is pretty stupid though

[AaronY]

Plz make it stop someone

[Blake]

London's murder rate was low even before the hand gun ban of 1997. Only since there has been an influx of a certain type of 'migrant' (jihadi) have we seen such extraordinary numbers on par with the great New York City.

Do you have a solution or are you just here to fret some more?

[Spurminator]

Plz make it stop someone

I thought this was a parody account. So dumb.

[Chris]

Do you have a solution or are you just here to fret some more?

Who's fretting? You? Facts don't care about your feelings buttercup.