Post your ideal Kawhi offseason

[r0drig0lac]

the clippers offer has a benefit, which is to create an auction with the other LA franchise (Magic would not like to lose Kawhi to Jerry West), making the overall offerings better, but I really expect something from Boston or Philla

[cd021]

Assuming BOS and PHI have real interest, it’s about what package beats Harris and the two firsts. I think the spurs would see Tatum and Kings pick in a weaker draft next year as inferior to that Clips deal. So then question is what additional assets gets it done for BOS?

Order of operations will matter here. I think the LAC “offer” is an important benchmark here

Good point, not all drafts are created equally.

The 12th, 13th, and 18th might have higher values in this year's draft while the value the Kings and Grizzlies picks next draft may not be as be as good as the same picks in this year's draft.

I.E the 2013 draft only produced two all-stars in the first 10 picks (Olidipo and McCollumn) and three overall with Giannis- Adams and Golbert being the other notable players in that draft.

Tatum has a high ceiling but Harris is good now, young and on a solid contract and can help the Spurs compete. The 12th and 13th, along with the 18th would help the Spurs add young talent who can develop while the Spurs are still semi-good with the hopes that they would be ready to take on larger roles in a couple of seasons.

Phily, Boston, and Phoenix can beat that offer but there is no guarantee that they would offer enough to actually do so. The Clippers, on the other hand, should be plenty motivated to chase Kawhi.

[CGD]

I just don’t see the upside of a trade with the Lakers. Randle is seeking a big payday this summer, Kuzma seems like a big numbers bad team guy, and spurs are not taking Ball with an even crazier family dynamic.

That leaves Ingram who is a decent cost controlled player, but what else do the lakers have by way of assets? Sixers (or outside shot, Celtics) get their 2018 pick. Presumably if Leonard joins, and they add another allstar, their future picks don’t look that appealing.

Let’s just move past the idea of Lakers as a real destination.

[DieHardSpursFan1537]

Gonna have to bite the bullet and re-sign him. As much of a disaster as this season has been, Kawhi is a player that every team in the NBA would kill to have. Pop is gonna have to go the route he did with LaMarcus last offseason and sit down with Kawhi.

[offset formation]

the clippers offer has a benefit, which is to create an auction with the other LA franchise (Magic would not like to lose Kawhi to Jerry West), making the overall offerings better, but I really expect something from Boston or Philla

Send his ass to the frozen tundra in Minnesota or Milwaukee. Take what you can get, even if it's a one year rental return, value wise. I'm guessing Milwaukee would give us some good value for a chance to pair Kawhi with Giannis, yes, even if Kawhi told them he wouldn't re-sign.

Give me Middleton and your first.

Win-win.

He loses supermax and has to wait a year in frozen before going where he wants.

Spurs get another mid first round pick (they can either use or bundle with theirs) and a player. One that actually, you know, plays.

[cd021]

"Report" saying that IF PATFO moves Kawhi, it would be to an East team, not the West.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2...-teams-in-east

Would narrow it down to the C's, 76er's and Cavs, if true.

[vander]

"Report" saying that IF PATFO moves Kawhi, it would be to an East team, not the West.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2...-teams-in-east

Would narrow it down to the C's, 76er's and Cavs, if true.

Based on Pops reaction to 2008 Pau trade. BR is a joke

[BD24]

Ideal offseason is keeping him and Lebron coming. Obviously that is dream scenario.

If we trade him getting Tatum and Brown from the Celts would be fantastic

[MoSpur02]

Besides Boston, Philly, & L.A what other team would be able to offer the Spurs a good return? What about Aaron Gordon, Vucevic, and their pick in this year's draft for Kawhi and Gasol? They can have Mills too.

[RD2191]

Kawhi would be an absolute beast out east. If he leaves I'd like to see him on the Sixers. They'd be a lock for the finals for 3-4 years at least.

[cjw]

Kantor would be a 17m expiring. Noah has two year left of his awful deal, yes, but I’d consider it if it lands a top 10 pick AND Ntillkina too.

You don’t touch Noah in a deal where you’re trading Leonard unless you’re getting Porzingis back AND Frank for that matter. We’ve seen the cost of dumping a bad contract in years with flush cap space like last year (cost the Lakers DeAngelo Russell) and it’s only going to be worse this offseason .

Which makes the Gasol and Mills deals even worse...

[SilverSpur]

Kawhi Leonard and Kyle Anderson to Boston for Jaylon Brown Jason Tatum two first and a future second

[AFBlue]

Makes sense that they wouldn't want to trade out west, but if Kawhi is really angling to get back there anyway I'd find it hard to believe an East team would put forward a suitable trade package.

I still think the Clips will have the best offer, and with that trade I don't see them being a bigger threat than GS. Seems like an even trade to me.

[TheGreatYacht]

All of you are smoking s if you think Celtics will give you Tatum AND Brown (some even have picks to go with that)

You'll get Rozier, Morris, & Ojeleye and all of you will like it because believe in PATFO no matter what

[BD24]

Kawhi Leonard and Kyle Anderson to Boston for Jaylon Brown Jason Tatum two first and a future second

Honestly this would be pretty nice and set us up great for the future

[mo7888]

I just don’t see the upside of a trade with the Lakers. Randle is seeking a big payday this summer, Kuzma seems like a big numbers bad team guy, and spurs are not taking Ball with an even crazier family dynamic.

That leaves Ingram who is a decent cost controlled player, but what else do the lakers have by way of assets? Sixers (or outside shot, Celtics) get their 2018 pick. Presumably if Leonard joins, and they add another allstar, their future picks don’t look that appealing.

Let’s just move past the idea of Lakers as a real destination.

You can always move Ball to a 3rd team for other assets if you don't feel like you want to deal with the family dynamic.

[SAGirl]

Harris is ok but he's a roleplayer. Younger Rudy Gay with a better long ball but he's puts up empty stats in bad teams and that's all the Spurs will be.
The team will be bad.

Oh well it can't be helped. It's over. Purgatory it is.

[mo7888]

Harris is ok but he's a roleplayer. Younger Rudy Gay with a better long ball but he's puts up empty stats in bad teams and that's all the Spurs will be.
The team will be bad.

Oh well it can't be helped. It's over. Purgatory it is.

I dont like the clippers trade because I don't see anybody coming this way with the upside to let us compete to the championship but, the team we fielded this year with the addition of Harris is the 3rd seed in the west. So, I disagree that we'll be bad. I just see a high floor and low ceiling with the clips trade.

[SAGirl]

Exactly mo. No to the clippers trade. no!
I disagree this team would still be 3rd if they had Harris. Never lifted his team's above even average...

[DPG21920]

Spurs are going to extend Kawhi and bring back the same team

[AFBlue]

Harris is ok but he's a roleplayer. Younger Rudy Gay with a better long ball but he's puts up empty stats in bad teams and that's all the Spurs will be.
The team will be bad.

Oh well it can't be helped. It's over. Purgatory it is.

No one is saying he's an all-star. If you think the Spurs are getting an all-star for Kawhi, you are setting yourself up for disappointment. This would be about getting a reliable replacement at the position while creating options for a future star. Also, call him a role player all you want, but I'll take a guy that has played damn near every game the last three seasons and shoots over 40% from 3 all day.

[AFBlue]

I dont like the clippers trade because I don't see anybody coming this way with the upside to let us compete to the championship but, the team we fielded this year with the addition of Harris is the 3rd seed in the west. So, I disagree that we'll be bad. I just see a high floor and low ceiling with the clips trade.

The ceiling depends on what you get with three picks in the top 20. Spurs would have plenty of options.

[mo7888]

Exactly mo. No to the clippers trade. no!

[AFBlue]

Spurs are going to extend Kawhi and bring back the same team

Only if Pop, Parker and Ginobili retire. Don't see the rift being repaired on either side.

[mo7888]

The ceiling depends on what you get with three picks in the top 20. Spurs would have plenty of options.

I just don't see any difference makers expected to be available then. Could someone fall on draft night and make a trade with them look better? Sure, it's possible but it's unlikely..