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But this house can leave.
It’s not a pay cut. A pay cut is asking a player to take less than another team can offer. SA can and would easily match the MAX another team could pay and not even ask him to take a penny less.
, they would probably pay him 20M more (200M) than any other team, just not 40M more. If the most anyone could pay for a house you loved and could afford was 180M, would you pay 220M for the home? Would offering 180M be asking the home owner to take less just because you had 220M in the bank if we know 100% for sure that no one else in the world could pay more than 180M?
But this house can leave.
RC handed out overpriced contracts last season but people on here really want them to nickle and dime their best player. How about not overpaying role players?
Because it'll be a lot harder for the Spurs to find someone as good as Kawhi than it'll be for Kawhi to receive a max contract offer from another team. Sure it won't be the supermax but that's something he can make up in the right situation.
Just to put things into perspective. Pop will be gone soon, the biggest positive the Spurs have going for it. Add in conflict with the team's best player and ownership question marks. The future for the Spurs begins to look pretty bleak. All hope would come down to RC's drafting abilities.
The Spurs not wanting to pay him is a respectable position to take but if that is the case then they need to seriously consider trading him while they can get something of value.
Last edited by rasuo214; 06-14-2018 at 10:21 AM.
The er didn’t play a whole year after being cleared to play
Tbh. Spurm fans are a bunch of idiots.
Sure - but that has nothing to do with trying to frame SA as asking Kawhi to take a “discount” when they can pay him the same as any other team. Not paying someone 40M more than the best offer they can get somewhere else is not asking for a discount.But this house can leave.
The seller of the home may take someone else’s 180M offer because they don’t like you but it has absoultely nothing to do with the money since it’s all equal.
I'm for offering him the $219. Why does it have to be this off-season though? I see nothing wrong with the Spurs telling him he needs to play out this next season and qualify for it. He took a whole season off to rehab and make sure his leg was right.
Why can't the Spurs take a whole season to make sure that leg is actually 100%? Seems fair to me.
What ownership question marks? The Holt's divorced and that's it. Juliana Holt isn't gonna sell the team. Their kids will take over and keep the team here in San Antonio
No. Those contracts happened because Mills & Pau sacrificed for the team. If Kawhi did that, he would have his 219M.
people framing giving Mills 12M a year to Kawhi 42M a year as nickle and dimes
Spurs have given "loyalty contracts" to players that came or stayed for lesser contracts than they could have gotten elsewhere. Obviously that is a hard pill for a lot of the middle schoolers and millennials in this forum to swallow, but that loyalty/generosity is rewarded by PATFO. This goes a long way when other players are considering playing here. Spurs could have easily low balled Patty after signing for less, but they didnt and made right on what I imagine they told him.
Should Kawhi try to get as much as he can? Yes
Should Spurs try to sign him for less than the super max? It would make good business sense
Should Kawhi be more loyal to the spurs than what he has shown? That may be debatable, but I don't think so. Its a business
Should the Spurs be more loyal and offer the supermax? Not after this year and the impact that salary would have on signing future players... not to mention basic fiscal prudence
Like DPG said, why would you offer more than anyone else can pay? Two reasons:
1. you might piss him off and give him reason enough to say "screw it, I will take less to play in LA or NY"
2. A token of appreciation for his years of play for the spurs (except 2017-18) and to show the rest of young players in the league that the spurs take care of their players
Does that mean you throw the supermax on the table no questions asked? Nope. Only PATFO knows what the appropriate course of action is at this point. I trust their judgement way more than Kawhi's "group"
Quit being a bunch of scared babies about losing Kawhi. I would hate to lose him, but I would also hate to have that huge contract on the books and have only 40-50 games a year from him also.
If kawhi takes less it'll be easier to trade him in 2020 when the spurs might blow it up. Unless he wants to go to the Lakers now or next off-season he should take the spurs contract with the understanding the spurs will honor a trade request if he wants to leave later.
Kawhi Leonard’s former agent sues agency for allegedly withholding commission
https://www.google.com/amp/s/nba.nbc...ommission/amp/
Stars sell seats, always have. Stars are made by winning but also by stats. Otherwise people could just watch the G-League.
Because Kawhi is in the driver's seat. There are 29 other teams Kawhi could easily go to for big money. There aren't 29 other Kawhi Leonard level players out there. You have to secure players ASAP, especially great ones that rarely come along.
just bc they use insurance to pay part or all of his salary doesn't mean it doesn't go against the cap. Unless he flat out retires.
I think this as well. If Kawhi had sacked up and played on the bum leg for a bit more last year or at least for the playoff push whilst still being swept by the Dubs (which he didn't want to bc it would tarnish his stats and image) he would likely have been offered the supermax already and been seen as the team's leader still. Not a guy who fled to NYC when the going got rough.
Not sure if already posted but ESPN NBA front page is posting an article on how LA can get James, George, and Leonard next year.
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/2...ba-free-agency
It's not worth reading but check out the trade they believe the Spurs would bite on if Leonard demands a trade to LA -
The Spurs would pick an option of letting Leonard walk than take that exact trade, I would almost absolutely believe.Spurs are willing to do Ball, Deng and Kuzma for Leonard, pivoting to a younger roster built around the two second-year players plus point guard Dejounte Murray.
Yes, you aren't getting Kawhi without multiple draft picks and there is no way that I can see the Spurs wanting Ball given the baggage of dealing with his dad. You thought Kawhi's uncle was crazy.
Maybe pop retires and daddy ball gets his team. Look out world, its the revolution!
Is PG worth 30 M a year?
Hilarious ... wasn't there some other website saying it would take a king's ransom to trade for Leonard? Deng (who is old and benched for past 2 years), overrated Kuzma and Ball (no thanks for that family mess).... plus with all the Ball-Kuzma crap going on now, bet Lakers would love to dump both..
The media spin is in overdrive... Actually stating as fact that the Spurs would be interested in that deal... Smfh
BSPN crap to get clicks/readers ...
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