Davis Bertans re-signs, 4 years, $20 million (Unconfirmed)

[DPG21920]

The Spurs have been winning for years by not following the norm.

Hoops Czar just likes to complain, but he very clearly has no idea what he’s talking about here. SA is in a very comfortable cap spot.

[HankChinaski]

I like this signing. Hopefully with the roster changes Bertans can make the most of the opportunity in front of him. Looking forward to training camp.

[DAF86]

If Bertans makes the leap I expect him to make this upcoming season, folks will be popping champagne bottles, celebrating the fact that we signed him for 5 millions per season for the next 4 years.

[hooperflash]

[anon]

Bertans' hidden value is as a Porzingis recruiter. Something lit a fire under RC's ass this summer, man is doing work.

[Hoops Czar]

The Spurs have been winning for years by not following the norm.

They have one championship in 10 years. Do you mean winning a lot of regular sewason games?

[HarlemHeat37]

I'm indifferent towards this..I liked Bertans earlier, but I've grown a little tired of his shot selection and poor rebounding/defense..

Spurs needed a PF, though, they didn't have much of a choice here..Pop isn't playing summer league guys to begin the season..

Having Bertans with Belinelli makes me cringe, though..

People need to stop citing tiny sample sizes for role players against the best team of all-time

[BSfromTX]

I like it. I'm still convinced he is better than what he has shown. Hoping more minutes allow him to settle and better contribute

[Chucho]

They have one championship in 10 years. Do you mean winning a lot of regular sewason games?

And 85% of the league has zero les this last decade.

[Hoops Czar]

Hoops Czar just likes to complain, but he very clearly has no idea what he’s talking about here. SA is in a very comfortable cap spot.

DPG " Just wait until Parker's contract ends and the Spurs will have enough cap space to sign another max free agent to pair with Kawhi."

[Hoops Czar]

And 85% of the league has zero les this last decade.

And only one percent of the teams in the league had Tim Duncan.

[Dverde]

DPG " Just wait until Parker's contract ends and the Spurs will have enough cap space to sign another max free agent to pair with Kawhi."

Good. Pau needs a raise

[DPG21920]

For those interested in what SA’s “reasonable” cap situation looks like next year after what we have currently (Rudy & Danny back, Bertans for 20M, letting Kyle go signing Beli to 2/12M):

http://www.shamsports.com/capulator?...42c73745726190

I define reasonable by stuff SA controls (meaning team options, ability to waive, non-guarantees). Even after all the moves SA has made and keeping Kawhi’s salaries on the books (unlikely, but still):

SA would have:

LMA
Kawhi
Mills
Beli
Bertans
Lonnie
White
Murray

So in keeping that in mind, if SA just does only what is in their control (so no having to trade to dump salary, etc..) and they waive all the cap holds for free agents (Danny, Rudy, everyone else), waive and stretch Pau and they keep Milutinov’s charge, they would have 21M in cap space with no other moves.

So a few things:

1) If they can trade Pau vs stretching him, they will net about another 2M in cap space. This can be EASILY accomplished since a team trading for Pau would only be eating 6M to get a 2nd round pick or something.

2) If they can trade Mills (not as easy probably) that cap space balloons up into max contract range.

3) Even if they can’t/won’t trade Mills/Pau, the Kawhi trade could easily take the team from 21M in cap space to far above it depending on the trade.

So worst case scenario you would still have LMA with some young guys in Bertans, Murray, Lonnie, White and a solid chunk of cap space to work with along with vets in Beli/Mills.

[dbestpro]

They have one championship in 10 years. Do you mean winning a lot of regular sewason games?

There are 24 teams with no championships over the past 10 years. The Spurs have not had a losing season in 21 years. Get real.

[DPG21920]

I'm indifferent towards this..I liked Bertans earlier, but I've grown a little tired of his shot selection and poor rebounding/defense..

Spurs needed a PF, though, they didn't have much of a choice here..Pop isn't playing summer league guys to begin the season..

Having Bertans with Belinelli makes me cringe, though..

People need to stop citing tiny sample sizes for role players against the best team of all-time

Worst case scenario, unlike Kyle, SA kept an asset to be used later if need be. Regardless of what you think of the player, this is an asset and can be used in trades to help net something if need be vs just losing talent like other teams have.

[ernest787]

^^^ which is another reason letting Anderson go was the right move. If they are going to rebuild (weather we bottom out or do it on the fly) that cap space is the most important piece of the puzzle.

[bklynspursfan]

There are 24 teams with no championships over the past 10 years. The Spurs have not had a losing season in 21 years. Get real.

Exactly

[marinoman]

Can we still offer moute a 2 year deal for $6.8 mil like we could have yesterday?

[Hoops Czar]

There are 24 teams with no championships over the past 10 years. The Spurs have not had a losing season in 21 years. Get real.

How many of thiose teams had Tim Duncan? Comparing the Spurs to teams like Sacramento, Phoenix, Charlotte

[Chucho]

And only one percent of the teams in the league had Tim Duncan.

You're saying the Spurs should have more les in the last 10 years with a Tim Duncan on the decline. Flawless thinking.

[Chinook]

Spurs lock down a legit rotation player for less than 5% of the cap, and people around here still ing smh.

Yeah, seriously. I've been projecting these contracts for both Berts and Anderson for months now (though I didn't know the Spurs would let Kyle go). I like the years, especially with the APY. Now it's up to them to make the contract worthwhile. It can be a bad deal if they keep Davis out of the rotation. But right now, he might even be a starter between Leonard and Aldridge at worst, he's on the bench next to Pau. Do I want Pop to bring in another forward to push him for minutes? Yes. But these are the types of deals SA needs to get back to 2012-2014 levels of depth.

[Rocalcio]

I disagree, I think one of them was seen as a good defender (and secondary playmaker), and the other as a shooter, I think with Bertans signing and Bellinelli returning, Forbes is out, Anderson replacement is not yet on the team (or will be Blossomgame for its defensive potential)

I’m not saying they had the same role in the team, just that the FO was considering keeping only one of them and that they wanted Anderson. I agree on the fact that we need a replacement for Anderson cause he was a starter, not Bertans.

[timvp]

Eh, I was hoping Bertans would be closer to $4 million per season. With the options either KA for $38 million over four years or Bertans at $20 millions, I guess I agree with going with Bertans. His shooting ability and overall agility make him a good fit no matter how the roster is constructed going forward. With KA, there were scenarios where he'd be close to useless. With Bertans, he will be useful in just about every scenario.

But there are some risks to this decision. If Bertans tears another ACL, this deal could look ugly fast. KA is also obviously the better overall player with a higher upside. Bertans is what he is; I can't imagine a scenario where he takes a giant step forward. Best case is added experience helps him defensively and he shoots 40% on threes on the other end.

Nephew's fiasco pretty much forced the Spurs' hand. Kyle could have been the choice in a lot of scenarios but, with the questions marks, it makes more sense to go with Bertans simply because his skillset allows him to fit no matter what.

[DPG21920]

How many of thiose teams had Tim Duncan? Comparing the Spurs to teams like Sacramento, Phoenix, Charlotte

Spurs reached a WCF without Duncan and still made the playoffs last year without Kawhi whil the team you mentioned couldn’t even do that

[Hoops Czar]

Worst case scenario, unlike Kyle, SA kept an asset to be used later if need be. Regardless of what you think of the player, this is an asset and can be used in trades to help net something if need be vs just losing talent like other teams have.

You don't know the Spurs at all if you think the Spurs would even entertain thoughts about trading Bertans. See, you talk the tak but when it comes to walking the walk, you your pants. Just like Matt Bonner was tradeable all those years. Apparently, you can't put a price tag on terrible because the Spurs just bid against themselves for Bertan's services. Let's talk about all the things the Spurs can do and watch them do none of them.

And no, worst case scenario would be Bertans averaging 25 mpg for the next four seasons because they have to justify that contract. He's basically Matt Bonner with a ceiling of Steve Novak.