San Antonio's First Domino: Should The Spurs Give DeMar DeRozan A Contract Extension?

[Big Empty]

If Kawhi joins the Lakers its rebuilding mode. Even with a scrub bench noone is beating the Lakers so we might as well get that lottery pic next hear and develop our youngsters while obtaining a future first rounder to go with our lotter pic next summer. If Kawhi doesnt join the Lakers the league will still be up for grabs next year so we keep DeMar

[Leetonidas]

If Kawhi joins the Lakers its rebuilding mode. Even with a scrub bench noone is beating the Lakers so we might as well get that lottery pic next hear and develop our youngsters while obtaining a future first rounder to go with our lotter pic next summer. If Kawhi doesnt join the Lakers the league will still be up for grabs next year so we keep DeMar

Idk man. Kawhi and Davis are injury prone as . If they sign Kawhi they won't be able to fill the roster and that load management isn't getting them a top seed when Leonard sits 20 games, Davis misses his annual 15 games, and LeBron is also getting older.

When Durant went to GS everyone was saying they're going to win 10 chips in a row. Same with LBJ and Miami. Things can change very quickly in the nba

[daslicer]

If Kawhi joins the Lakers its rebuilding mode. Even with a scrub bench noone is beating the Lakers so we might as well get that lottery pic next hear and develop our youngsters while obtaining a future first rounder to go with our lotter pic next summer. If Kawhi doesnt join the Lakers the league will still be up for grabs next year so we keep DeMar

Tanking is not a viable solution anymore due to the NBA now decreasing the odds of teams with the worst records of getting the top picks.

[Big Empty]

Tanking is not a viable solution anymore due to the NBA now decreasing the odds of teams with the worst records of getting the top picks.

It wouldnt be tanking we simply would miss the playoffs developing our young prospects without LA/DD, even with them there isnt a guarantee we make it.

[MaNu4Tres]

I am not disputing any of that but rather projecting what the Spurs will do based on their past actions and past preference, read again. They were the ones who chose a package centered on Derozan bc they valued him highly. For me the process is defined as more than tanking. It’s actually prioritizing the acquisition and development of young talent with the intention of finding one or two sufficiently spectacular talents to build around. They have some young talent through luck and smart drafting but it remains to be seen if they are transcendent yet, which I don’t mind. But if you have some young talent you think it’s transcendent you don’t bury them behind 50, Derozan. Belli, etc.

They chose DeRozan because that package offered the most value wise.

What people are not aware of is that Spurs passed on the Clips deal draft day bc they 1) Had hope Pop can still get his visit & change Kawhi's mind. 2) They wanted to wait for a better offer after dust cleared in FA.

They whiffed at both of those because most teams were not giving anything up for a year of Kawhi. And Kawhi was as good as gone -- and they knew that but still wanted one last swing.

So Spurs took the best and only real value offer out there in mid July. Had nothing to do with seeing DeMar as a big part of the future. It had to do with getting the value and worrying about the rest later.

I've heard after the fact, Spurs regretted not taking the Clips deal around the draft, but that's the gamble they lost.

I dont think they view DeMar as centerpiece, they think higher of Derrick.

And injuries derailed the chances of Pop letting Dejounte & Lonnie loose last year. That's why they didnt play over Marco or Patty. Some I've heard are comparing Lonnie to a Butler and they are a lot higher on him than you think.

[mo7888]

Looks like CHA is losing Kemba. No idea what CHA is doing here. They are going to suck. Probably means they wouldn’t want DeRozan possibly now either?

Possibly, but it might mean the opposite. Many believe that Michael doesn't really care about winning he just wants to sell tickets and stay under the tax. If that is true he might see DDR as a way to sell tickets after the loss of their franchise player.

[SAGirl]

They chose DeRozan because that package offered the most value wise.

What people are not aware of is that Spurs passed on the Clips deal draft day bc they 1) Had hope Pop can still get his visit & change Kawhi's mind. 2) They wanted to wait for a better offer after dust cleared in FA.

They whiffed at both of those because most teams were not giving anything up for a year of Kawhi. And Kawhi was as good as gone -- and they knew that but still wanted one last swing.

So Spurs took the best and only real value offer out there in mid July. Had nothing to do with seeing DeMar as a big part of the future. It had to do with getting the value and worrying about the rest later.

I've heard after the fact, Spurs regretted not taking the Clips deal around the draft, but that's the gamble they lost.

I dont think they view DeMar as centerpiece, they think higher of Derrick.

And injuries derailed the chances of Pop letting Dejounte & Lonnie loose last year. That's why they didnt play over Marco or Patty. Some I've heard are comparing Lonnie to a Butler and they are a lot higher on him than you think.

Well as you say, there’s a lot of “sauces” there that I don’t have.

It sucks that they gambled and missed so badly on all of their calculations with Kawhi, but that’s not what this thread is about and I don’t want to derail it. Thanks for the “info” though.

[Drom John]

Tanking is not a viable solution anymore due to the NBA now decreasing the odds of teams with the worst records of getting the top picks.

Tanking is more valuable now. The worst team chances decreased while the bad teams increased their lottery chance.

[Legacy]

Demar deserves the 5 year max.


Marco Belinelli also deserves one max deal for his loyalty to the spurs. #loyaltycontract

[Fusternino]

What sources claim Spurs regret not taking the Clippers' offer?

[duncan2k5]

Possibly, but it might mean the opposite. Many believe that Michael doesn't really care about winning he just wants to sell tickets and stay under the tax. If that is true he might see DDR as a way to sell tickets after the loss of their franchise player.

Sell tickets?? Lmfao! No one likes the guy

[ceperez]

Looks like CHA is losing Kemba. No idea what CHA is doing here. They are going to suck. Probably means they wouldn’t want DeRozan possibly now either?

Spurs have opportunity here to pick up some discards from Boston.

[RC_Drunkford]

I wasn't born or raised a Spurs fan and admittedly only became one during Duncan's peak MVP seasons, but that's a good 17 years.
Extending a max offer to DeRozan would be the most deflating move for me in those 17 years. It'd really be hard to follow the team.

Even if it's just a four year deal, it means he's on the roster for 2020 (final current contract), 2021, 2022, 2023 and 2024.
Think about that Spurs fans... DeRozan being your anchor through the year 2024.

We already got a taste of that with the Patty Mills contract. He's on the team for another 2 years

[coachmac87]

Help me out here. What makes you think losing DeMar would send the Spurs into the deep lottery, or on a downward spiral in the direction of " The Process"?

What makes him such a dynamic game changer?

I see him as an empty stats Milwaukee Richard Jefferson. A taller Lou Williams w out the 3 ball. A prime Jamal Crawford without a 3 ball.

Why do Spurs fans think so highly.of him?

I. Dont. Get. It.

You can point to his high usage 20/6 like when RJ got 20/5 all you want. I. Dont. See. It.

The guy is only effective with the ball I'm his hands, and in the half-court ( against any team w a brain) he resorts to twirling/spinning back downs into the post for a 15 ft fade-away after the D goes under the PnR.

He is a bad fit with many players offensively bc of his inability to play off the ball. And hes a bad team defender, with minimal intangibles that are conducive to winning basketball.

Due to the heaps of young talent the Spurs have at his position, I don't think the Spurs would miss a beat without him.

Bruh...you just compared him to Milwaukee RJ? Lmao.

DD has flaws but he was an ALL-NBA player homie coming into a NEW system off an emotional trade.

I’m all for listening to offers etc, but whoever thinks you can just dump him is an idiot tbh

[Genovaswitness]

I can’t wait to see this ing idiot not even attempt/brick 3s all year and clog the lane

[RC_Drunkford]

I agree we should let him play the year out and not extend him. With the west getting wide open and teams like the Jazz, Lakers, Blazers and maybe Rockets improving the Spurs should keep DeRozan around if they can bring in Bogdanovic through a sign and trade. That way you also have a clearer picture of where the young guys are at next summer.

The one thing why I'm against salary dumping DeMar is that you then lose bird rights on Rudy Gay. I'd move DeMar if you can trade him together with Patty or if you at least get a 1st-rounder back for DeRozan alone. Or move him at the deadline when you got a clearer picture on the young guys and somebody interesting becomes available. Letting him play here for another season makes the most sense I think. Just hope he somehow learns how to hit 3s

[pad300]

IMO, you let Demar play the rest of his contract, unless you can get fair value for him... which is a couple of FRP's and cap relief/space. You don't do an extension with him, unless it is (in modern NBA terms) cheap - which is to say < $75m/3 years. You evaluate at the end of the contract and make your decisions then...

PS. For the tomfools comparing him to RJ's. Demar actually put up a per game 21/6/6 line with us for a season (in 34.9 mpg). RJ peaked at 12.3/4.4/2.0 with us. His best season hit, 5 YEARS of decline before he got us, was 22.2/7.3/4.0 in 41.1 mpg. Demar is just a WAY better player.

[JuneJive]

IMO, you let Demar play the rest of his contract, unless you can get fair value for him...

I agree.

Let's be real, which team would want DeRozan?

And the extension shouldn't be on the table.

[r0drig0lac]

Demar for 45/3? ok
Demar for 75/3? no way

[JeffDuncan]

I agree.

Let's be real, which team would want DeRozan?

And the extension shouldn't be on the table.

Agreed, no extension. The league is not going to change enough in that short a time for an extension to make sense. And as the youngsters develop for another season it will make even less sense.

When DDR's contract ends, pocket the whole $27.7 million and go shopping with it.

[mo7888]

https://twitter.com/stevekylerNBA/st...855630848?s=19

[illusioNtEk]

The team was built around Kawhi's skill set.

Really? 50Mills?

[lmbebo]

https://twitter.com/stevekylerNBA/st...855630848?s=19

One of the podcasts spoke about DDR decision. Next year will be an underwhelming free agent class. DDR may be valued higher because of that.

[mo7888]

One of the podcasts spoke about DDR decision. Next year will be an underwhelming free agent class. DDR may be valued higher because of that.

Agreed

[CGD]

One of the podcasts spoke about DDR decision. Next year will be an underwhelming free agent class. DDR may be valued higher because of that.

Good point. Looking at the list, he and Lowery would be the top names (assuming AD and those who sign 1+1s this summer stay put). Another reason to move him sooner rather than later if they don’t plan on extending him.