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Not if he sits and watches like Radoslav...
None given. If Pop is lowering his market value in November when no one is paying attention, what difference would that make if he gets alot of burn in the playoffs like last season?
Jerome James got a full MLE deal from one series for chissakes.
Not if he sits and watches like Radoslav...
If he sits and watches during the playoffs like Rasho, then we don't need him.Not if he sits and watches like Radoslav...
...which, of course, is the thesis. Has Pop stuck with a less than optimal playoff rotation before?
Look, if you think Pop throws seasons to devalue guys like Manu, feel free. I don't agree.
Nah, more like sticking with Radoslav against the most physical frontcourt in the NBA...
You can put Marcus Bryant in there as well
I guess timvp and his lacky side kick mb will blame Pop for lowering Nazr's value by having his ass handed to him by the Hawks. Nice plan Pop way to lower Nazr's value. The bonus is it pisses off timvp and mb...way to go Pop
Last edited by GoSpurs21; 11-16-2005 at 04:03 PM.
To devalue Malik and Willis?Nah, more like sticking with Radoslav against the most physical frontcourt in the NBA...
Do you even know what you're arguing anymore?
The only thing I see written above are words of another idiot, as you jump blindly into bed with Timvp.People call timvp crazy for thinking the Spurs will do all it takes to lower Nazr's market value, but it was evident during game one of the season.
Rasho started, which wasn't a surprise, but Nazr didn't see the court until the third quarter. When he did get into the game, Pop was all over him the entire game. He got into his face a couple times and even pulled him from the game after a slow rotation by Tim Duncan led to a score. It didn't matter that Duncan was at fault, Nazr got the lashing from Pop.
This is going to be a looooong season for Nazr. Rasho and Oberto will be given every opportunity to win the starting center spot. Nazr will be yanked in and out of games. The San Antonio media won't hesitate to drop rumors of the Spurs being angry with Nazr's progression. As we've already seen, Nazr's family isn't off limits.
All in the name of the Almighty Dollah.
It was written.
Pop's only concern is to get this team ready for another set of rings in June!
If Nazr's play demonstrates he is the best option to achieve the end goal, he is on the court. If Rasho, Oberto and Horry combine to give the Spurs more, Nazr gets splinters from sitting on the pine, as he has earned.
Back to the first point. You really need to think before you type!
Duncan, Manu, Parker and Bowen were not sent to the bench in contract years to save money for the future. Each had their opportunities elevated in precontract years, so to justly give the Spurs the best chance at Rings. Stephen Jackson and Turk were also given ample opportunity in their precontract years. And both played good enough to merit contracts high enough that the Spurs had to let them walk. When they did, it is not exactly like the Spurs were crying over the loss. With more time for Manu, and space to add Barry and eventually Finley and NVE, all is good.
The same goes with the Spurs interior. They know there will some turnover in the years ahead. And with a core of Duncan, their choices will be many. If Nazr earns his time, he will get it for as long as it is earned. And if other options are better to bring rings June after June, Nazr will go the way of S-Jack and Turk.
If you are going to go conspiracy theory, at least try to make some sence.
The Spurs are champions and a emering dynasty because they have been brilliant in surrounding Tim with solid support at budget pricing. Other than Rose, one would be hard pressed to make a valid arguement that the Spurs have overpaid on a single other player. Yes, Rasho is a bargin despite what the lightweights who don't know the game, or those with an agenda want to scream.
Now think! If the Spurs plan on letting Nazr walk no matter what he delivers, they would be much better letting him star in the system as much as possible, IF he could. This would cause some idiot GM to go nuts, and blow his cap for years over a very marginal player. Or, they could do a sign and trade, perhaps combining him with another player they chose to move, and get someone they really want.
It is never in a teams interest to let a player sit to somehow lower his market value. If you can help deliver the rings, you play. If you are not the best choice, you sit. End of discussion.
The Spurs couldn't give Radoslav away for the rotting corpse of TAW's career a few months back.
No, the issue was Pop's stubborness.
Yes.Do you even know what you're arguing anymore?
Some chance Mohammed got in that game.
The fact they already had four (technically five) centers didn't make any difference
Yeah, that's the topic of the thread.No, the issue was Pop's stubborness.
So Pop purposely lost the 03 04 season, so they could lower Malik's value.
WTF!??!?!!?
The sanity of this forum is going right the out the window.
If Nazr isn't earning the minutes in practice, he should sit. He is still LOST all the time on both ends of the floor. Oberto knows where to be better than him.
Nazr got his chance last night in the first quarter and he sucked!
Got damn timvp is good.People call timvp crazy for thinking the Spurs will do all it takes to lower Nazr's market value, but it was evident during game one of the season.
Rasho started, which wasn't a surprise, but Nazr didn't see the court until the third quarter. When he did get into the game, Pop was all over him the entire game. He got into his face a couple times and even pulled him from the game after a slow rotation by Tim Duncan led to a score. It didn't matter that Duncan was at fault, Nazr got the lashing from Pop.
This is going to be a looooong season for Nazr. Rasho and Oberto will be given every opportunity to win the starting center spot. Nazr will be yanked in and out of games. The San Antonio media won't hesitate to drop rumors of the Spurs being angry with Nazr's progression. As we've already seen, Nazr's family isn't off limits.
All in the name of the Almighty Dollah.
It was written.
Here we are almost half way through the season and Nazr still hasn't gotten any real opportunity to play. He's had spot minutes here and there, but I can't remember the last time Pop put him in a position to succeed.
The Spurs aren't going to win a championship with Rasho at center. He's too soft and too bad of a rebounder. He's scared to mix it up and against the tougher teams in the league Rasho will fold.
Nazr isn't that good of a player, but he's pretty tough and will at least attempt to rebound. His defense has been horrible this season, however more consistent playing time should help fix that.
People said timvp was crazy in saying Pop would jack around with Nazr's minutes.
He was right.
It done been written.
Nothing?
I know it's annoying when timvp is right but 45 minutes after the worst loss of the season and nobody is even going to chime in?
Weird.
Allow me to be the first:
Nazr is simply better than Rasho. Tho, I think Rasho has better fundamentals and court awareness...he just doesn't have the abilities Nazr has. Nazr does more to help this team win, than does Rasho.
Pop finally let Manu do his own thing...I think he'd be better letting Nazr do his thing. There's always a couple of Defensive lapses with Nazr..but, there's always some turnovers with Manu.
It comes down to...Nazr is better than Rasho, and helps our team more. Pop needs to get over the defensive x and o's...and focus a lot more on the overall game. Which also includes an offensive side of the court.
Seriously when nazr was with the knicks on sum nites dude was pullin down 16rebs, n here in SA ,DUDE cant even beat rasho for teh starting spot let alone play like that for once.
nazr is playing nowhere near the level he was last year. he hasn't earned any minutes, and comes in and sucks it up just as bad or worse than rasho.
Pop's quote on Nazr after the game tonight when asked why he only played five minutes, "I just played the guys that I thought deserved to play."
What did Nazr do? The whole game I was thinking Nazr must have done something really ed-up in practice to not be getting minutes on a night when Rasho had his head stuck so far up his vagina.
If any of you out there think Oberto is gonna make as a starting center - think again. Sure he may have moments against the lesser talented teams in the league, but there's no way in he can match up against Detroit's frontline. He too light and hasn't shown to be the bruiser the Spurs need at that position.
Which is why the Spurs need to figure out a way to integrate Nazr back into the lineup. Say what you want, but he's still the best offensive rebounder on the team. He gives the Spurs the bulk and aggressive needed to negate the Wallace boys. See last years championship series.
Also, check the free agent landscape this upcoming summer. There aint no other FA centers out there - outside of Ben Wallace and you know he aint going nowhere.
http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/insid...ris&id=2287515
If you notice, the Spurs have gotten their asses whipped on the boards in each game versus Detroit. As Doug Collins put it "Rasho simply doesn't have the foot speed or quickness needed to get to those loose rebounds". That said, tell me who the Spurs should trade.
The Spurs would be big fools to let this guy go. I wish someone would clue me in as to why Pop and the coaches are still down on him.
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