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    How does the DNC even have dignity after putting him up there. Before this, I always considered myself a democrat.

    I know it might not matter, because most of Bernie's base are in higher populated states, but I and a lot of other people will probably never vote democrat again.
    That's pretty much how I feel. I hated Hillary but voted for her and will do the same for Biden. The only reason I'm voting for Biden is because Trump is too divisive racially and he's straight up incompetent. If this was Biden vs generic Republican then I would stay home. I'll be doing that in 2024.

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    That's pretty much how I feel. I hated Hillary but voted for her and will do the same for Biden. The only reason I'm voting for Biden is because Trump is too divisive racially and he's straight up incompetent. If this was Biden vs generic Republican then I would stay home. I'll be doing that in 2024.
    Lol the same old narrative fed to you by those who don't give one about your quality of life nor your families and friends.

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    Bernie got fewer votes. He would have lost in the General Election. I liked him better but if it means Trump gets another 4, then he's not the right candidate. He and other progressive Senators and Congressmen in a hopefully more liberal Congress can push legislation that won't get vetoed by Biden.

    4 more years of Trump + GOP gerrymandering and the assault on voting rights and access just makes it even less likely a true progressive can ever be elected President.
    You're right, he did. But the DNC did no favors, and you cant sit here and say that they weren't in on it with MSNBC, the same way the GOP and Fox are in bed together.


    Like I said, I wont vote for Joe, or any centrist ever again. I guess they were never a party for progressive policies, so I shouldn't be mad. FWIW, i live in CA, so my vote does not matter.

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    Lol the same old narrative fed to you by those who don't give one about your quality of life nor your families and friends.
    No politician regardless of party cares about me or my quality of life. I figured that out a long time ago. Sounds like you are just bitter that I'm not going to vote for your boy Trump.

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    That's pretty much how I feel. I hated Hillary but voted for her and will do the same for Biden. The only reason I'm voting for Biden is because Trump is too divisive racially and he's straight up incompetent. If this was Biden vs generic Republican then I would stay home. I'll be doing that in 2024.
    It truly is the same republican vs democrat.

    Joe has this "progressive policy" plan that will get nothing done. He has the black vote sowed because he was second man to Obama, and did it with a smile. I was all in on Hillsawg after the primaries last time. He told black people they aren't black if they even consider voting for Trump. I guess you have to take his word. He did put cornpop in his place

    If you do think you have a progressive stance on social and political policies, look for the third party and see which more aligns with you.

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    You're right, he did. But the DNC did no favors, and you cant sit here and say that they weren't in on it with MSNBC, the same way the GOP and Fox are in bed together.


    Like I said, I wont vote for Joe, or any centrist ever again. I guess they were never a party for progressive policies, so I shouldn't be mad. FWIW, i live in CA, so my vote does not matter.
    Unfortunately I live in NC and it's a swing state but if I lived in CA I would not vote either.

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    You're right, he did. But the DNC did no favors, and you cant sit here and say that they weren't in on it with MSNBC, the same way the GOP and Fox are in bed together.
    They probably did coordinate on messaging but the people still vote.

    Assuming there was coordination, it was based on two choices: (1) Let Bernie win a small plurality in a field of 7-9, or (2) cull down the field and let people choose their favorite from a smaller group, which would mirror the Presidential election more closely.

    Your vote for President may not count but local and state officials are still important. Even if I was pissed about the POTUS candidate, I'm straight party Democrat down ballot right now. Unless it's a seat with a centrist Dem vs. a progressive 3rd party candidate and there's no chance of a GOP winner.

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    No politician regardless of party cares about me or my quality of life. I figured that out a long time ago. Sounds like you are just bitter that I'm not going to vote for your boy Trump.
    Don't bother with him. He's about as smart as the sandwich I had for lunch.

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    It truly is the same republican vs democrat.

    Joe has this "progressive policy" plan that will get nothing done. He has the black vote sowed because he was second man to Obama, and did it with a smile. I was all in on Hillsawg after the primaries last time. He told black people they aren't black if they even consider voting for Trump. I guess you have to take his word. He did put cornpop in his place

    If you do think you have a progressive stance on social and political policies, look for the third party and see which more aligns with you.
    i still go back and forth with the concept of protest/third party votes... but i still feel like they are vanity votes to make you feel better about yourself than actually doing something with material benefits. i dont like biden, but a 4 year biden term, in my eyes, would undoubtedly be less dangerous and harmful than a 2nd trump term when he no longer even cares about re-election

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    No politician regardless of party cares about me or my quality of life. I figured that out a long time ago. Sounds like you are just bitter that I'm not going to vote for your boy Trump.
    Why would I be bitter over a nobody like you? That's the beauty of the USA; you have the right to be a complete and utter dumbass which you're doing fine at!

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    And if Democrats and Republicans were truly all the same, Donald Trump wouldn't be reversing so many Obama policies right now.

    There's going to be overlap in bad policy. People are going to have to keep their foot on the gas with regard to immigration abuses, drone strikes and privacy issues that unfortunately don't get as much scrutiny under Democrat power.

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    i still go back and forth with the concept of protest/third party votes... but i still feel like they are vanity votes to make you feel better about yourself than actually doing something with material benefits. i dont like biden, but a 4 year biden term, in my eyes, would undoubtedly be less dangerous and harmful than a 2nd trump term when he no longer even cares about re-election
    I don't believe my vote is a protest. The democratic party is a dead party for progressive policies.

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    I don't believe my vote is a protest. The democratic party is a dead party for progressive policies.
    thats how i see it as well... but they're a heck of a lot closer than the republicans. you still have a (albeit small) progressive wing of the democrat party

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    Don't bother with him. He's about as smart as the sandwich I had for lunch.
    The faux intellectual strikes again! Oh wait, the facebook stalking loser who snitches strikes again!

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    Doesn’t Biden have Bernie people in his transition team? I’m sure I read that somewhere.

    Its not like his administration will be fully made up of centrist. He’s already done more to reach out to younger voters than Hillary ever did during 2016.

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    It truly is the same republican vs democrat.

    Joe has this "progressive policy" plan that will get nothing done. He has the black vote sowed because he was second man to Obama, and did it with a smile. I was all in on Hillsawg after the primaries last time. He told black people they aren't black if they even consider voting for Trump. I guess you have to take his word. He did put cornpop in his place

    If you do think you have a progressive stance on social and political policies, look for the third party and see which more aligns with you.
    I agree with you on everything. The way America is setup there is no way a third party will ever have success in this country. I have come to the conclusion the last few year that this country is a corrupt democracy that is run by corporations and oligarchs. They now control both parties. The only difference between the Democratic and Republican party is social issues but in my eyes those issues don't make a difference in improving the quality of lives among the public.

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    Let me guess without looking...Joey went with the old snitch/Facebook thing again, amirite?

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    Doesn’t Biden have Bernie people in his transition team? I’m sure I read that somewhere.

    ahh, I was waiting for that one. Yes, he does. Now I'm sure all of those bills that the transition team are working on will definitely hit the floor/

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    I agree with you on everything. The way America is setup there is no way a third party will ever have success in this country. I have come to the conclusion the last few year that this country is a corrupt democracy that is run by corporations and oligarchs. They now control both parties. The only difference between the Democratic and Republican party is social issues but in my eyes those issues don't make a difference in improving the quality of lives among the public.
    We're a republic!

    Let me guess without looking...Joey went with the old snitch/Facebook thing again, amirite?
    You ain't fooling no one hulkster... and if it's true it's true!

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    Why would I be bitter over a nobody like you? That's the beauty of the USA; you have the right to be a complete and utter dumbass which you're doing fine at!
    Dude you are bitter it's ok. I understand that I triggered you by declaring that I'm going to vote against your boy.

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    Dude you are bitter it's ok. I understand that I triggered you by declaring that I'm going to vote against your boy.
    I don't care who you vote for and never will. Your faux W's here on ST are pathetic.

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    I don't care who you vote for and never will. Your faux W's here on ST are pathetic.
    You do care since you are responding to me. It's ok I understand you are upset.

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    this country is a corrupt democracy that is run by corporations and oligarchs. They now control both parties.
    %100 this

    Things are going to get worse and keep on getting worse in this country. They have shmucks like us arguing who is worse and both parties answer to the same people at night, which are the oligarchs and corporations.

    But maybe Joe will be back, and we can have that rainbow font on the white house, again. And joe will be back, so we can turn a blind eye to Palestinians dying and being supressed at the hands of Israel. But Bill Maher did say Israel is in their rightful land, so liberals should fall in line with that, as well.

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    You do care since you are responding to me. It's ok I understand you are upset.
    Lol as if that line hasn't been regurgitated by losers like yourself for all of this messageboard's existence!

    Faux W!

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    Things are going to get worse and keep on getting worse in this country. They have shmucks like us arguing who is worse and both parties answer to the same people at night, which are the oligarchs and corporations.

    But maybe Joe will be back, and we can have that rainbow font on the white house, again. And joe will be back, so we can turn a blind eye to Palestinians dying and being supressed at the hands of Israel. But Bill Maher did say Israel is in their rightful land, so liberals should fall in line with that, as well.
    I feel we are going to be a third world country once the boomers die off. They are literally keeping the middle class on life support. Once they are gone there won't be a middle class.

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