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    That report is two yours older than your own and everybody else's knowledge it was oppo research. Why are you arguing this point again?
    Seemed like you brought up the fact it was disclosed as oppo research to FISC was something honorable or something. I really have no clue why you brought it up I just found it funny you brought up it was disclosed to the FISC without bringing up everything that wasn't disclosed to the FISC about it.

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    Here you are arguing against a claim I never made.

    You made the same mistake sr21 did and confused the FBI and Mueller.

    I explained that to sr21 already in the thread.
    Goalpost change noted, but both Mueller and Durham work with the FBI and for all we know had access to the same info.

    You simply cannot claim incompetence, negligence or conspiracies on any one part because charges were filed now instead of a year, two, three or four ago. If you do, then logically the contention clearly applies just as equally to Mueller as it does to Durham who's been on the case for over a year now.

    You're also taking a leap of faith that this particular person lying automatically means collusion or conspiracy, despite that a lot of people lied to the FBI (and were caught and tried thanks to Mueller) and yet Mueller conclusion was that there was no evidence of collusion.

    So maybe it's time to take a step back, stop falling for every twitterazi out there and let the pros do their job.

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    Seemed like you brought up the fact it was disclosed as oppo research to FISC was something honorable or something. I really have no clue why you brought it up I just found it funny you brought up it was disclosed to the FISC without bringing up everything that wasn't disclosed to the FISC about it.
    Of course it was at the very least the right thing to do. There was never anything hidden to the FISC judge about what the purpose of the report was. That clearly put the FBI in much more legal solid ground as far as their request for a FISA warrant.

    I brought it up because this case actually centers on the Steele report, doesn't it? Isn't your fake outrage all about Mueller allegedly not looking into the sourcing of the report?

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    Goalpost change noted, but both Mueller and Durham work with the FBI and for all we know had access to the same info.
    There was no goal post move by me. You were confused by sr21's mistake and ran with it, I'll forgive you.

    You simply cannot claim incompetence, negligence or conspiracies on any one part because charges were filed now instead of a year, two, three or four ago. If you do, then logically the contention clearly applies just as equally to Mueller as it does to Durham who's been on the case for over a year now.
    Again, it's not about the charges for me that make me claim incompetence or negligence. And I didn't call it on any one part I called it on Steele/Sussman/Danchenko. Mueller and Durham had access to the same info, and I'm totally confident claiming incompetence or negligence on the part of Mueller's team for either not investigating or investigating and leaving out of report.

    You're also taking a leap of faith that this particular person lying automatically means collusion or conspiracy, despite that a lot of people lied to the FBI (and were caught and tried thanks to Mueller) and yet Mueller conclusion was that there was no evidence of collusion.
    Clinton campaign definitely cooked up a conspiracy, and it's laughable to deny that. It's also looking like Clinton campaign were the one's colluding with Russians lol.

    So maybe it's time to take a step back, stop falling for every twitterazi out there and let the pros do their job.
    The pros are doing their job now. Senile Mueller and his hyper partisan team are thankfully are no longer on the case.

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    Of course it was at the very least the right thing to do. There was never anything hidden to the FISC judge about what the purpose of the report was. That clearly put the FBI in much more legal solid ground as far as their request for a FISA warrant.

    I brought it up because this case actually centers on the Steele report, doesn't it? Isn't your fake outrage all about Mueller allegedly not looking into the sourcing of the report?
    The purpose of the report was to Trump. There was nothing honorable about what the FBI did in seeking out the warrant against Page. They hid and omitted plenty from the FISC and lied to the court on all four applications.

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    There was no goal post move by me.
    I mean, I'm just doing a quick scroll and I'm guessing there is a bunch of tsa goal post moving
    Lol

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    You bring less than Derp. That is tough to do.

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    There was no goal post move by me. You were confused by sr21's mistake and ran with it, I'll forgive you.
    This is silly, let me remind you once again people can read your previous posts in this thread.

    Again, it's not about the charges for me that make me claim incompetence or negligence. And I didn't call it on any one part I called it on Steele/Sussman/Danchenko. Mueller and Durham had access to the same info, and I'm totally confident claiming incompetence or negligence on the part of Mueller's team for either not investigating or investigating and leaving out of report.
    It doesn't matter what you are confident about, this isn't about your hunches. And you sure did frame it directly as such:

    Yes they knew he was lying in 2017.
    In your opinion was Mueller's team incompetent and just didn't find everything Durham found on Steele/Sussman/Danchenko or were they competent and they found the same information but covered it up by leaving it out of the final Mueller report?
    According to you, Durham also knew about this lying since last year, but he's only pressing charges now (on the Steele/Sussman/Danchenko matter). Is his investigation also incompetent or negligent? Why the double standard?

    And pressing charges is entirely material to the discussion since it's how we find out about these things, seeing that Durham released no reports so far.

    Clinton campaign definitely cooked up a conspiracy, and it's laughable to deny that. It's also looking like Clinton campaign were the one's colluding with Russians lol.

    The pros are doing their job now. Senile Mueller and his hyper partisan team are thankfully are no longer on the case.
    It's laughable because Techno says so? Or is it Q chilling next to Airforce One? lmao

    What's sort of weird is that you called into question Durham's own credibility...

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    The purpose of the report was to Trump. There was nothing honorable about what the FBI did in seeking out the warrant against Page. They hid and omitted plenty from the FISC and lied to the court on all four applications.
    It was oppo research. It implies that it was created to indeed Trump chances to become President. That's what oppo research is.

    The only reason it was elevated to a formal investigation is that there were alleged national security implications if some of it was true. That's why we have secret courts to explore natsec issues.

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    This is silly, let me remind you once again people can read your previous posts in this thread.



    It doesn't matter what you are confident about, this isn't about your hunches. And you sure did frame it directly as such:




    According to you, Durham also knew about this lying since last year, but he's only pressing charges now (on the Steele/Sussman/Danchenko matter). Is his investigation also incompetent or negligent? Why the double standard?

    And pressing charges is entirely material to the discussion since it's how we find out about these things, seeing that Durham released no reports so far.



    It's laughable because Techno says so? Or is it Q chilling next to Airforce One? lmao

    What's sort of weird is that you called into question Durham's own credibility...
    "They" was in reference to the FBI, before Mueller was appointed. People can clearly read that, well, except for you and sr21. You are again wrongly conflating the two, just like sr21 did. Your conflation leads you to ask dumb questions like what about muh double standard.

    Mueller did release a report, there was nothing in it about Steele/Sussman/Danchenko. If Mueller's team was competent they would have investigated that aspect as they were tasked to investigate collusion with Russians. Danchenko was already investigated by the FBI in 2009, while Mueller was the FBI director His name should have been an immediate red flag. Yet Mueller and team did nothing....or they did and we just never heard about it.

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    The purpose of the report was to Trump. There was nothing honorable about what the FBI did in seeking out the warrant against Page. They hid and omitted plenty from the FISC and lied to the court on all four applications.
    can you remind me what was lied about on all 4? from what i recall know clinesmith's email thingy only made it into the 4th application

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    It was oppo research. It implies that it was created to indeed Trump chances to become President. That's what oppo research is.

    The only reason it was elevated to a formal investigation is that there were alleged national security implications if some of it was true. That's why we have secret courts to explore natsec issues.
    Long time Clinton advisor feeds allegations to Danchenko. Danchenko feeds allegations to Steele. Steele feeds allegations to Fusion and FBI. Fusion feeds allegations to media. FBI uses allegations from Steele and media stories to apply for FISA warrants all the while having so many misstatements and omissions in the applications that the FISC would later say there was no probable cause to issue the warrants on Page.

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    can you remind me what was lied about on all 4? from what i recall know clinesmith's email thingy only made it into the 4th application
    Pardon the formatting edit here this is easier just go to the link

    https://www.justice.gov/storage/120919-examination.pdf

    As more fully described in Chapter Five, based
    upon the information known to the FBI in October 2016,
    the first application contained the following seven
    significant inaccuracies and omissions:
    1.Omitted information the FBI had obtained from
    another U.S. government agency detailing its
    prior relationship with Page, including that Page
    had been approved as an "operational contact"
    for the other agency from 2008 to 2013, and
    that Page had provided information to the other
    agency concerning his prior contacts with certain
    Russian intelligence officers, one of which
    overlapped with facts asserted in the FISA
    application;
    2.Included a source characterization statement
    asserting that Steele's prior reporting had been
    "corroborated and used in criminal proceedings,"which overstated the significance of Steele's past
    reporting and was not approved by Steele's
    handling agent, as required by the Woods
    Procedures;
    3. Omitted information relevant to the reliability of
    Person 1, a key Steele sub-source (who was
    attributed with providing the information in
    Report 95 and some of the information in
    Reports 80 and 102 relied upon in the
    application), namely that ( 1) Steele himself told
    members of the Crossfire Hurricane team that
    Person 1 was a "boaster" and an "egoist" and
    " may engage in some embellishment" and (2)
    the FBI had opened a counterintelligence
    investigation on Person 1 a few days before the
    FISA application was filed;
    4. Asserted that the FBI had assessed that Steele
    did not directly provide to the press information
    in the September 23 Yahoo News article based
    on the premise that Steele had told the FBI that
    he only shared his election-related research with
    the FBI and Fusion GPS, his client; t his premise
    was incorrect and contradicted by do entation
    in the Woods File-Steele had told the FBI that
    he also gave his information to the State
    Department;
    5. Omitted Papadopou los's consensually monitored
    statements to an FBI CHS in September 2016
    denying that anyone associated wit h the Trum p
    campaign was collaborating with Russia or with
    outside groups like Wikileaks in the release of
    emails;
    6. Omitted Page 's consensually monitored
    statements to an FBI CHS in August 2016 that
    Page had " literally never met" or "said one word
    to" Paul Manafort and that Manafort had not
    responded to any of Page's emails; if true, those
    statements were in t ension with cla ims in Report
    95 that Page was participating in a conspiracy
    with Russia by acting as an intermediary for
    Manafort on behalf of the Trump campaign; and
    7. Included Page's consensually monitored
    statements to an FBI CHS in October 2016 that
    the FBI believed supported its theory that Page
    was an agent of Russia but omitted other
    statements Page made that were inconsistent
    with its theory, includ ing denying having met
    with Sechin and Divyekin, or even knowing who
    Divyekin was; if true, those statements
    co ntradicted the claims in Report 94 that Pa ge had met secretly with Sechin and Divyekin about
    future cooperation with Russia and shared
    derogatory information about ca ndidate Clinton.
    None of these inaccuracies and omissions were
    brought to the attention of OI before the last FISA
    application was filed in June 2017. Consequently, these
    failures were repeated in all three r enewal applications.
    Fu rther, as we discuss lat er, we identified 10 additional
    significant errors in the renewa l applications.

    ========


    The Three Renewal Ap plicat ion s f or
    Continued FI SA Authority o n Ca rte r Page
    As noted above, t he FBI filed three renewal
    applications wit h t he FISC, on January 12, April 7, and
    June 29, 2017. In addition to repeat ing the seven
    significant errors contained in the first FISA application
    and outlined above, we identified 10 additional
    significant errors in t he three renewal applications,
    based upon information known to t he FBI after the first
    applica tion and before one or more of the renewals. We
    describe the cir stances surrou nding these 10 errors
    in Chapter Eight, and provide a chart list ing additional
    errors in Appendix One. As more fully described in
    Chapter Eight, the renewal applications:
    8. Om itted the fact that Steele's Primary Sub-
    source, who the FBI fou nd credible, had made
    statements in January 2017 raisi ng significant
    questions about the re li ability of allegations
    included in the FISA applications, in cluding, for
    example, that he/she d id not reca ll any
    discussion wit h Person 1 concerning Wikileaks
    and there was "nothing bad " about t he
    communications between the Kremlin and t he
    Trump team, and that he/she did not report to
    Steele in July 2016 that Page had met with
    Sechin;
    9. Omitted Page's prior relationship with another
    U.S. government agency, despite being
    reminded by the other agency in June 2017,
    prior to the fil ing of the fi nal renewal
    appl ication, about Page's past st atus with t hat
    other agency; instead of including this
    information in the f inal renewal application, the
    OGC Attorney altered an email from the other
    agency so t hat the email stated t hat Page was
    " not a sou rce" for the other agency, which the
    FBI affiant relied upon in signing t he final
    renewal application;
    10. Omitted information from persons who
    previously had professional contacts w it h Steele
    or had direct knowledge of his work-related
    performance, i ncludi ng statements that Steele
    had no history of reporting in bad faith but
    "[d]emonstrates lack of self-awareness, poor
    judgment," "pursued people with polit ical risk
    but no intelligence value," "didn't a lways
    exercise g reat judgment," and it was " not clear
    what he would have done to va lidate" his
    reporting;
    11. Omitted information obtained from Ohr about
    Steele and his election reporting, including that
    ( 1) Steele's reporting was going to Clinton's
    presidential campaign and others, (2) Simpson
    was paying Steele to discuss his reporting with
    t he media, and (3) Steele was " desperate t hat
    Donald Trump not get elected and was
    passio nate about him not being the U.S.
    President";



    12. Failed to update the description of Steele after
    information became known to the Crossfire
    Hurricane t eam, from Ohr and others, that
    provided greater clarity on t he political origins
    and connections of Steele's reporting, including
    t hat Simpson was hired by someone associated
    with the Democratic Party and/or the DNC;
    13. Failed to correct the assertion in the first FISA
    application that the FBI did not believe that
    Steele directly provided info rmation to the
    reporter who wrote the September 23 Yahoo
    News article, even though there was no
    information in the Woods File to support this
    claim and even after certain Crossfire Hurricane
    officials learned in 2017, before t he third
    renewal applicatio n, of an admission that Steele
    made in a court filing about his interactions with
    the news media in the late summer and ea rly
    fall of 2016;
    14. Omitted the finding from a FBI source validation
    report that Steele was suitable for continued
    operation but that his past contribu tions to the
    FBI's criminal program had been " minimally
    corroborated," and instead continued to assert
    in the source characterization statement that
    Steele's prior reporting had been "corroborated
    and used in cr iminal proceedings";
    15. Omitted Papadopoulos's statements to an FBI
    CHS in late October 2016 denying that the
    Trump ca mpaign was involved in t he
    cir stances of the DNC email hack;
    16. Omitted Joseph Mifsud's denials to the FBI that
    he suppli ed Papadopoulos with the information
    Papadopoulos sha red with the FFG (suggesting
    that the campaign received an offer or
    suggestion of assistance from Russia); and
    17. Omitted info rmation indicating that Page played
    no role in the Republican platform change on
    Russia's annexation of Ukraine as alleged in the
    Report 95, which was inconsistent w ith a factual
    assertion relied upon to support probable cause
    in all four FISA applications.
    Among the most serio us of the 10 additional
    errors we found in the renewal applications was the
    FBI's fai lure to advise OJ or the court of the
    inconsistences, described in detail in Chapter Six,
    between Steele and his Primary Sub- source on t he
    reporting relied upon in the FISA applications. Although
    the Primary Sub-source's account of these
    communications, if t rue, was not consistent with and, in
    fact, contradicted the allegations of a "well- developed
    conspiracy" in Reports 95 and 102 attributed to Person
    1 the FBI did not share this information with 01. The
    FBI also fa il ed to share other inconsistencies with OJ,
    including the Primary Sub-source's account of the
    alleged meeting between Page and Sechin in Steele's
    Report 94 and his/her descriptions of the source
    network. The fact that the Primary Sub- sou rce's
    account contradicted key assertions attri buted to
    his/her own sub-sources in Steele's Reports 94, 95, and
    102 shou ld have generated significant discussions
    between t he Crossfire Hurricane team and OJ prior to
    submitting the next FISA renewal application.
    Accord ing to Evans, had OJ been made aware of the
    information, such discussions might have included the
    possibility of foregoi ng the renewal request altogether,
    at least unt il the FBI reconciled the differences between
    Steele's accou nt and the Primary Sub-source's account
    to the satisfaction of 01. However, we found no
    evidence that the Crossfire Hurricane team ever
    considered whether any of the inconsistencies
    warrant ed reconsideration of the FBI's assessment of
    the re liability of the Steele reports or notice to OJ
    before the subseque nt renewal applications were filed.


    Instead, the second and third renewal
    applications provid ed no substantive information
    concerning the Primary Sub- source's interview, and
    offered only a brief conclusory statement that the FBI
    met with the Primary Su b-sour ce "[i]n an effort to
    fu rther corroborate Steele's reporting " and found the
    Primary Sub-source to be "truthful and cooperat ive."
    We believe that including this st atement, w it hout also
    informing OJ and the court that the Primary Sub-
    source's account of events contradicted key assertions
    in Steele's reporting, left a misimpression that the
    Primary Sub- source had corroborated the Steele
    reporting. I ndeed, in a letter to the FISC in July 2018,
    before learn ing of t hese inconsistencies from us during
    this review, t he Department defended the reliability of
    Steele's reporting and the FISA applications by citing, in
    part, to the Primary Sub-source's interview as
    "additional information co r roborating [Steele's]
    reporting" and noting the FBI's determinat ion that
    he/she was "truthful and cooperative."

    =================

    Danchenko told the FBI in 2017 that Steele and his dossier were full of and they ignored that, hid it from the FISC, and pressed on.

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    i didnt need a copypasta, you could have just written somethin out . i was legitimately asking. i dont have a pepe silvia board on my wall, so my memory of this isnt perfect. i know there were problems on all the warrants, i only specifically said that i recalled the clinesmith ery was limited to just one of the apps

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    i didnt need a copypasta, you could have just written somethin out . i was legitimately asking. i dont have a pepe silvia board on my wall, so my memory of this isnt perfect. i know there were problems on all the warrants, i only specifically said that i recalled the clinesmith ery was limited to just one of the apps
    There were 10 more instances on top of the 7 from the first app. Was much easier to just copy paste in a ty format.

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    You bring less than Derp. That is tough to do.
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    Pardon the formatting edit here this is easier just go to the link

    https://www.justice.gov/storage/120919-examination.pdf

    As more fully described in Chapter Five, based
    upon the information known to the FBI in October 2016,
    the first application contained the following seven
    significant inaccuracies and omissions:
    1.Omitted information the FBI had obtained from
    another U.S. government agency detailing its
    prior relationship with Page, including that Page
    had been approved as an "operational contact"
    for the other agency from 2008 to 2013, and
    that Page had provided information to the other
    agency concerning his prior contacts with certain
    Russian intelligence officers, one of which
    overlapped with facts asserted in the FISA
    application;
    2.Included a source characterization statement
    asserting that Steele's prior reporting had been
    "corroborated and used in criminal proceedings,"which overstated the significance of Steele's past
    reporting and was not approved by Steele's
    handling agent, as required by the Woods
    Procedures;
    3. Omitted information relevant to the reliability of
    Person 1, a key Steele sub-source (who was
    attributed with providing the information in
    Report 95 and some of the information in
    Reports 80 and 102 relied upon in the
    application), namely that ( 1) Steele himself told
    members of the Crossfire Hurricane team that
    Person 1 was a "boaster" and an "egoist" and
    " may engage in some embellishment" and (2)
    the FBI had opened a counterintelligence
    investigation on Person 1 a few days before the
    FISA application was filed;
    4. Asserted that the FBI had assessed that Steele
    did not directly provide to the press information
    in the September 23 Yahoo News article based
    on the premise that Steele had told the FBI that
    he only shared his election-related research with
    the FBI and Fusion GPS, his client; t his premise
    was incorrect and contradicted by do entation
    in the Woods File-Steele had told the FBI that
    he also gave his information to the State
    Department;
    5. Omitted Papadopou los's consensually monitored
    statements to an FBI CHS in September 2016
    denying that anyone associated wit h the Trum p
    campaign was collaborating with Russia or with
    outside groups like Wikileaks in the release of
    emails;
    6. Omitted Page 's consensually monitored
    statements to an FBI CHS in August 2016 that
    Page had " literally never met" or "said one word
    to" Paul Manafort and that Manafort had not
    responded to any of Page's emails; if true, those
    statements were in t ension with cla ims in Report
    95 that Page was participating in a conspiracy
    with Russia by acting as an intermediary for
    Manafort on behalf of the Trump campaign; and
    7. Included Page's consensually monitored
    statements to an FBI CHS in October 2016 that
    the FBI believed supported its theory that Page
    was an agent of Russia but omitted other
    statements Page made that were inconsistent
    with its theory, includ ing denying having met
    with Sechin and Divyekin, or even knowing who
    Divyekin was; if true, those statements
    co ntradicted the claims in Report 94 that Pa ge had met secretly with Sechin and Divyekin about
    future cooperation with Russia and shared
    derogatory information about ca ndidate Clinton.
    None of these inaccuracies and omissions were
    brought to the attention of OI before the last FISA
    application was filed in June 2017. Consequently, these
    failures were repeated in all three r enewal applications.
    Fu rther, as we discuss lat er, we identified 10 additional
    significant errors in the renewa l applications.

    ========


    The Three Renewal Ap plicat ion s f or
    Continued FI SA Authority o n Ca rte r Page
    As noted above, t he FBI filed three renewal
    applications wit h t he FISC, on January 12, April 7, and
    June 29, 2017. In addition to repeat ing the seven
    significant errors contained in the first FISA application
    and outlined above, we identified 10 additional
    significant errors in t he three renewal applications,
    based upon information known to t he FBI after the first
    applica tion and before one or more of the renewals. We
    describe the cir stances surrou nding these 10 errors
    in Chapter Eight, and provide a chart list ing additional
    errors in Appendix One. As more fully described in
    Chapter Eight, the renewal applications:
    8. Om itted the fact that Steele's Primary Sub-
    source, who the FBI fou nd credible, had made
    statements in January 2017 raisi ng significant
    questions about the re li ability of allegations
    included in the FISA applications, in cluding, for
    example, that he/she d id not reca ll any
    discussion wit h Person 1 concerning Wikileaks
    and there was "nothing bad " about t he
    communications between the Kremlin and t he
    Trump team, and that he/she did not report to
    Steele in July 2016 that Page had met with
    Sechin;
    9. Omitted Page's prior relationship with another
    U.S. government agency, despite being
    reminded by the other agency in June 2017,
    prior to the fil ing of the fi nal renewal
    appl ication, about Page's past st atus with t hat
    other agency; instead of including this
    information in the f inal renewal application, the
    OGC Attorney altered an email from the other
    agency so t hat the email stated t hat Page was
    " not a sou rce" for the other agency, which the
    FBI affiant relied upon in signing t he final
    renewal application;
    10. Omitted information from persons who
    previously had professional contacts w it h Steele
    or had direct knowledge of his work-related
    performance, i ncludi ng statements that Steele
    had no history of reporting in bad faith but
    "[d]emonstrates lack of self-awareness, poor
    judgment," "pursued people with polit ical risk
    but no intelligence value," "didn't a lways
    exercise g reat judgment," and it was " not clear
    what he would have done to va lidate" his
    reporting;
    11. Omitted information obtained from Ohr about
    Steele and his election reporting, including that
    ( 1) Steele's reporting was going to Clinton's
    presidential campaign and others, (2) Simpson
    was paying Steele to discuss his reporting with
    t he media, and (3) Steele was " desperate t hat
    Donald Trump not get elected and was
    passio nate about him not being the U.S.
    President";



    12. Failed to update the description of Steele after
    information became known to the Crossfire
    Hurricane t eam, from Ohr and others, that
    provided greater clarity on t he political origins
    and connections of Steele's reporting, including
    t hat Simpson was hired by someone associated
    with the Democratic Party and/or the DNC;
    13. Failed to correct the assertion in the first FISA
    application that the FBI did not believe that
    Steele directly provided info rmation to the
    reporter who wrote the September 23 Yahoo
    News article, even though there was no
    information in the Woods File to support this
    claim and even after certain Crossfire Hurricane
    officials learned in 2017, before t he third
    renewal applicatio n, of an admission that Steele
    made in a court filing about his interactions with
    the news media in the late summer and ea rly
    fall of 2016;
    14. Omitted the finding from a FBI source validation
    report that Steele was suitable for continued
    operation but that his past contribu tions to the
    FBI's criminal program had been " minimally
    corroborated," and instead continued to assert
    in the source characterization statement that
    Steele's prior reporting had been "corroborated
    and used in cr iminal proceedings";
    15. Omitted Papadopoulos's statements to an FBI
    CHS in late October 2016 denying that the
    Trump ca mpaign was involved in t he
    cir stances of the DNC email hack;
    16. Omitted Joseph Mifsud's denials to the FBI that
    he suppli ed Papadopoulos with the information
    Papadopoulos sha red with the FFG (suggesting
    that the campaign received an offer or
    suggestion of assistance from Russia); and
    17. Omitted info rmation indicating that Page played
    no role in the Republican platform change on
    Russia's annexation of Ukraine as alleged in the
    Report 95, which was inconsistent w ith a factual
    assertion relied upon to support probable cause
    in all four FISA applications.
    Among the most serio us of the 10 additional
    errors we found in the renewal applications was the
    FBI's fai lure to advise OJ or the court of the
    inconsistences, described in detail in Chapter Six,
    between Steele and his Primary Sub- source on t he
    reporting relied upon in the FISA applications. Although
    the Primary Sub-source's account of these
    communications, if t rue, was not consistent with and, in
    fact, contradicted the allegations of a "well- developed
    conspiracy" in Reports 95 and 102 attributed to Person
    1 the FBI did not share this information with 01. The
    FBI also fa il ed to share other inconsistencies with OJ,
    including the Primary Sub-source's account of the
    alleged meeting between Page and Sechin in Steele's
    Report 94 and his/her descriptions of the source
    network. The fact that the Primary Sub- sou rce's
    account contradicted key assertions attri buted to
    his/her own sub-sources in Steele's Reports 94, 95, and
    102 shou ld have generated significant discussions
    between t he Crossfire Hurricane team and OJ prior to
    submitting the next FISA renewal application.
    Accord ing to Evans, had OJ been made aware of the
    information, such discussions might have included the
    possibility of foregoi ng the renewal request altogether,
    at least unt il the FBI reconciled the differences between
    Steele's accou nt and the Primary Sub-source's account
    to the satisfaction of 01. However, we found no
    evidence that the Crossfire Hurricane team ever
    considered whether any of the inconsistencies
    warrant ed reconsideration of the FBI's assessment of
    the re liability of the Steele reports or notice to OJ
    before the subseque nt renewal applications were filed.


    Instead, the second and third renewal
    applications provid ed no substantive information
    concerning the Primary Sub- source's interview, and
    offered only a brief conclusory statement that the FBI
    met with the Primary Su b-sour ce "[i]n an effort to
    fu rther corroborate Steele's reporting " and found the
    Primary Sub-source to be "truthful and cooperat ive."
    We believe that including this st atement, w it hout also
    informing OJ and the court that the Primary Sub-
    source's account of events contradicted key assertions
    in Steele's reporting, left a misimpression that the
    Primary Sub- source had corroborated the Steele
    reporting. I ndeed, in a letter to the FISC in July 2018,
    before learn ing of t hese inconsistencies from us during
    this review, t he Department defended the reliability of
    Steele's reporting and the FISA applications by citing, in
    part, to the Primary Sub-source's interview as
    "additional information co r roborating [Steele's]
    reporting" and noting the FBI's determinat ion that
    he/she was "truthful and cooperative."

    =================

    Danchenko told the FBI in 2017 that Steele and his dossier were full of and they ignored that, hid it from the FISC, and pressed on.
    I'm sure everyone here can't wait to dive into this wall salad.

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    "They" was in reference to the FBI, before Mueller was appointed. People can clearly read that, well, except for you and sr21. You are again wrongly conflating the two, just like sr21 did. Your conflation leads you to ask dumb questions like what about muh double standard.
    I don't think your conspiracy is very clear at all. So the FBI are the ones that lied and didn't tell Mueller, but once Brandon got the right people at the FBI, they did told Durham?

    Or the FBI told both, and both of them sit on it for a long ass time? Which one is it?

    Mueller did release a report, there was nothing in it about Steele/Sussman/Danchenko. If Mueller's team was competent they would have investigated that aspect as they were tasked to investigate collusion with Russians. Danchenko was already investigated by the FBI in 2009, while Mueller was the FBI director His name should have been an immediate red flag. Yet Mueller and team did nothing....or they did and we just never heard about it.
    We're going in circles. Steele/Sussman/Danchenko (and Clinton) were not part of any investigation at the time. Again, the allegations at the time were that the Trump campaign colluded with Russia, which was reinforced after it was known that Flynn lied to the VP about talking to the Russian ambassador.

    Mueller and Durham are not investigating the same thing either. I have zero problem with Durham's investigation, and I'll read his conclusions whenever they come up or when he speaks (just like I did with Mueller).

    The problem I see here are useful idiots that try to spread fake news to establish a narrative by consistently jumping to conclusions that end up making them look stupid. Happened with the Mueller report, happened with the OIG report, happened with GUCCIFER 2.0, happened with Pizzagate, etc, etc, etc

    People with room temperate IQ and above generally realize they've been used as fools, take a step back and use some critical thinking to avoid falling for the same thing over and over again. But if you enjoy constant embarrassment, I'm not going to talk you out of it.

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    Long time Clinton advisor feeds allegations to Danchenko. Danchenko feeds allegations to Steele. Steele feeds allegations to Fusion and FBI. Fusion feeds allegations to media. FBI uses allegations from Steele and media stories to apply for FISA warrants all the while having so many misstatements and omissions in the applications that the FISC would later say there was no probable cause to issue the warrants on Page.
    The FBI gets allegations all the time. They don't all make it to the FISC, and they have to justify it in front of the FISC judge.

    The FISC coming later on and saying "our bad" doesn't change the fact that they approved all of them.

    Nor it changes the fact that the OIG himself, who looked at this in depth, also concluded that there was no evidence (outside of clinesmith, who was indicted, tried and sentenced) of intentional misconduct:

    While we did not find do entary or testimonial evidence of intentional misconduct on the part of the case agents who assisted OI in preparing the applications, or the agents and supervisors who performed the Woods Procedures, we also did not receive satisfactory explanations for the errors or problems we identified.

    And therein lies the problem. Everybody can make allegations, proving them is a whole different ballgame.

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    People with room temperate IQ and above generally realize they've been used as fools, take a step back and use some critical thinking to avoid falling for the same thing over and over again. But if you enjoy constant embarrassment, I'm not going to talk you out of it.
    Been saying the same thing to TDSA for four years while he continued to push bull from the same sources that had him believing companies were branding themselves with pizza-shaped logos to communicate that they were safe spaces for pedophilia.

    He's lost. It's not worth engaging. You're doing yeoman's work here but I can't fathom spending any more time on these walls of text than it takes to scroll past them.

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    Been saying the same thing to TDSA for four years while he continued to push bull from the same sources that had him believing companies were branding themselves with pizza-shaped logos to communicate that they were safe spaces for pedophilia.

    He's lost. It's not worth engaging. You're doing yeoman's work here but I can't fathom spending any more time on these walls of text than it takes to scroll past them.
    I don't understand the psyche of people like this, tbh, sound both fascinating and extremely sad at the same time.

    People like Qhris or derp, poor fellas, you can tell they're missing a chromosome, but TSA never struck me as somebody like that. Completely partisan, sure, but what drives them to this same stuff over and over is strange, tbh...

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    I don't understand the psyche of people like this, tbh, sound both fascinating and extremely sad at the same time.

    People like Qhris or derp, poor fellas, you can tell they're missing a chromosome, but TSA never struck me as somebody like that. Completely partisan, sure, but what drives them to this same stuff over and over is strange, tbh...
    Plain and simple, entertainment.

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