_so much for a Repeat_

[mouse]

That is so weak when all you got left is to pull out the "count the rings" card.

That means prior to 1999* you guys must of just sat back and stayed quite?

I guess most of you have only been Spur fans for 6 years, Only a fan prior to 1999* can really talk smack since they never had the "count the rings" card to fall back on,

What will be so sweet is when the Spurs go out in round one this year and I bring this topic back to life as I quote all you losers, I can just see most of you changing your screen names already, since 90% of you here will most likely pull a Tpark and give up anyway before that day comes.



Keep your head in the Sand Spur fans as you avoid answering the question of how will the Spurs get past the Mighty Mavericks,

[SequSpur]

That is so weak when all you got left is to pull out the "count the rings" card.

That means prior to 1999* you guys must of just sat back and stayed quite?

I guess most of you have only been Spur fans for 6 years, Only a fan prior to 1999* can really talk smack since they never had the "count the rings" card to fall back on,

What will be so sweet is when the Spurs go out in round one this year and I bring this topic back to life as I quote all you losers, I can just see most of you changing your screen names already, since 90% of you here will most likely pull a Tpark and give up anyway before that day comes.

Keep your head in the Sand Spur fans as you avoid answering the question of how will the Spurs get past the Mighty Mavericks,

[phyzik]

That is so weak when all you got left is to pull out the "count the rings" card.

That means prior to 1999* you guys must of just sat back and stayed quite?

I guess most of you have only been Spur fans for 6 years, Only a fan prior to 1999* can really talk smack since they never had the "count the rings" card to fall back on,

What will be so sweet is when the Spurs go out in round one this year and I bring this topic back to life as I quote all you losers, I can just see most of you changing your screen names already, since 90% of you here will most likely pull a Tpark and give up anyway before that day comes.



Keep your head in the Sand Spur fans as you avoid answering the question of how will the Spurs get past the Mighty Mavericks,

So.... let me get this straight....

You want us to provide you with proof on how the Spurs will beat the Mavericks, when we point to the fact that Spurs have 3 championships AND the Dallas Mavericks are a repeat second round exit team, you say that isnt valid enough proof?

So.... by your logic.... in a murder case, there is undeniable and undisputable proof the defendant killed someone a year ago, but since thats the past it is invalid?


riiiiight.......

[milkyway21]

I know what you mean. They just show their bitterness toward the mavs rather than showing examples of them beating the mavs.

"It is not HOW hard you push along the way,

It is HAVING something in you to FINISH it"
---Michael Jordan,#1 NBA's 50 Greatest Players

That "something" is NOT in Dirk, Dallas Maverick fans.

[Mavs<Spurs]

You can't fall back on the past. Right now it is the mavs 1 and the spurs 0.

Special pleading again?

The Spurs Mavs game that you are referring to is in the past. You said that you can't fall back on the past.

Make up your mind!!!

Special pleading, hasty generalization, you all really need to take a class in logic.

[Mavs<Spurs]

I know what you mean. They just show their bitterness toward the mavs rather than showing examples of them beating the mavs.

Apparently, you both are illiterate. Mouse started the thread with several accusations: (1) Spurs won't make the playoffs or there is a significant chance that they won't make the playoffs and (2) Mavs are better than the Spurs in general (ie not in one game on their home court) and (3) Mavs will advance further than the Spurs.

Since he made these allegations and he started the thread, he (and any of his conspirators) are obligated to prove them. The burden of proof is upon him. This is true for several reasons. First, about as many people believe in the flat earth theory as believe his allegations. Second, there are in plain view numerous facts which show that his allegations are unfounded.

In numerous posts, I have refuted his allegations. Any objective, unbiased judge would clearly rule that I have carried the debate.

Go back, read the posts and attempt to give a rebuttal that most reasonable, objective and knowledgable basketball fans and/or analysts would find compelling.

You all are the ones who have something to prove.

We've earned respect from those who know the game.

[Mavs<Spurs]

And yet none of that takes place when the Spurs lose by 30 + points to the Mavs?

There you go again.

Based upon one game, you make a hasty generalization. You jump from the results from one game to most games. You jump from a back to back game for the Spurs to apply it to games that are not back to back. You jump from a game in Dallas to games in San Antonio.

Then, when we bring in a much larger and much more representative sample, you claim that this is invalid because those games are in the past. However, the game where the Mavs beat the Spurs is in the past also. This is called special pleading. You are the only one who can bring in the past (and you do it very selectively). If anybody else brings in the past, you claim that it is evidence which can not be counted because it is in the past.

Of course, it was an anomaly.

Learn to reason, bozo.

[mouse]

Apparently, you both are illiterate. Mouse started the thread with several accusations: (1) Spurs won't make the playoffs or there is a significant chance that they won't make the playoffs and (2) Mavs are better than the Spurs in general (ie not in one game on their home court) and (3) Mavs will advance further than the Spurs.

Since he made these allegations and he started the thread, he (and any of his conspirators) are obligated to prove them. The burden of proof is upon him. This is true for several reasons. First, about as many people believe in the flat earth theory as believe his allegations. Second, there are in plain view numerous facts which show that his allegations are unfounded.

In numerous posts, I have refuted his allegations. Any objective, unbiased judge would clearly rule that I have carried the debate.

Go back, read the posts and attempt to give a rebuttal that most reasonable, objective and knowledgable basketball fans and/or analysts would find compelling.

You all are the ones who have something to prove.

We've earned respect from those who know the game.

Translation: I have no idea how the Spurs can beat the Dallas Mavericks so I will just babble on and hope it sounds good


Bro you have talent , you must be an attorney, after all it sounds good what your saying, but somehow watching the Dallas Mavericks beat the Spurs by 32 points is more than your silver tongue can do to make people forget that night, If the Spurs were to beat the Mavericks by 32 point I would give you props and move on, why can't you do the same?

The reason is? under all the those layers of BS you have wrapped around your bandwagon body? at the core of your lonely empty soul? lies the truth and the truth is your embarrassed to look in the mirror knowing at the end of the day, and after all the NBA dust settles ? the Dallas Mavericks still has scoreboard on your Manu flopping spurs, and that is something your high price attorney mouth can never change...................

[Rummpd]

Again, as I said before this is the "mouse who roars" always during the regular season then adios when his team, which is built for regular season success fades and chokes badly.

Dallas could be a threat (they have some talent and depth still; and a stronger emphasis on defense) but just because the Spurs had a hiccup on the road early, PLEASE they have to prove it when it counts just once!!!!

[mouse]

Again, as I said before this is the "mouse who roars"

nigra please! I have yet to raise my voice, As long as ThemanRules still has 50% of his young tight ass? Then he got off easy, trust me you will know when I decide to lay down the hammer of smack upon his lost soul.

always during the regular season then adios when his team, which is built for regular season success fades and chokes badly.

I can see your new here, If not, then you would know that 5 minutes after the Mavericks lost in the playoffs? I came in here giving out many props, and ate my crow like a real sports fan, why not take a look back on page 300 or so , and see for yourself what really took place on that very sad day,


just don't take all night I might want to vist other forums on the www.

Dallas could be a threat (they have some talent and depth still; and a stronger emphasis on defense) but just because the Spurs had a hiccup on the road early, PLEASE they have to prove it when it counts just once!!!!

A hiccup? that's what you call getting your ass greased and bent over a chair? a hiccup? I take it you think the movie Passion, was just about another friendly school hazzing

[phyzik]

Still waiting for the rat to argue my point.... of course he cant so he just ignore's it... selective reasoning just like Dallas winning one game and they own, but the Spurs have dominated Dallas over a decade but that isnt submissable in his mouse-sized mind.

Basically Mouse, if you are out to prove something, such as the theory that The Mav's are better then the Spurs, you logically cannot base that theory on one game.

If I saw a guy lose his Cancer because coincidentally he drank beer the day before, that doesnt freaking mean beer is the cure, I have to ing prove it. Dallas ricks saw the postseason starting in 1983. 1983 through 1987 I will give them props for having the fewest ammount of turnoevers for 5 straight years but this was during the era that was 3-point land (everyone was offensive). After that year though they lost probably the best coach Dallas has ever had up until now (which, coincidentally, is an ex-spur LOL), Motta.

The next year Dallas didnt even make the playoffs (1 game shy). Their ABSOLUTE BEST post season was in the 88-89 season which got them to the WCF and lost after 7 games.

after that:

89-90 to 99-00: Dallas didnt even make the playoffs but finish strong in 2000.

00-01: Second round exit (one of many to come)

01-02: Second round exit

02-03: WCF since 1988 before being destroyed by... guess who... SPURS

03-04: Mavs gone the first round.

Everyone should be able to guess from there how its gone.

how is that for proof you chode?

[mavsfan1000]

Dallas has found defense in Diop. The guy is playing unbelievable right now. Challenging every shot at the rim. He is a beast.

[mouse]

Still waiting for the rat to argue my point..

wake me up when you make one,

you chode?

I am not sure what that word means, but if we are going to get into the name calling, then don't get upset if we get off topic,
I only had 5 minutes to read some replies and I read Themanrules and not yours so I replied to his first,

I will take the time to re read any point you think you might of made, and I will be more than willing to answer in a timely fashion, But from what I have read so far ? you and all the other tree huggers in this topic still have not proved to me the Spurs are worthy of a repeat, and from what I can read thus far? I don't think you guys will be able to come up with an answer worth responding to,

[phyzik]

wake me up when you make one,




I am not sure what that word means, but if we are going to get into the name calling, then don't get upset if we get off topic,
I only had 5 minutes to read some replies and I read Themanrules and not yours so I replied to his first,

I will take the time to re read any point you think you might of made, and I will be more than willing to answer in a timely fashion, But from what I have read so far ? you and all the other tree huggers in this topic still have not proved to me the Spurs are worthy of a repeat, and from what I can read thus far? I don't think you guys will be able to come up with an answer worth responding to,

Ohhh... so now its gone from Spurs cant beat the Mavericks to Spurs aren't worthy?

And your turning this into something like the Spurs have to prove themselves to you.... again, thats why we point to the rings. I think its the Mavericks who have to prove themselves worthy, dont get it flipped around.

[Vingianx]

blah blah blah

[Rummpd]

Mouse you are en led to your opinion, which is just that an opinion, albeit singularly nieve. Dallas is a good to very good team, has better coaching than in the past, some good young talent etc. but it is not yet a championship quality team.

The truth of the matter is that the Spurs have the games definitive superstar, in Duncan, Dirk for all his brilliance is trying to get to that level! He is not there yet. Also, re Dirk, he has consistently come up "small" in big games when his shots are not falling - that is why Avery is trying so hard to basically change his game to more Duncan like, i.e. closer to the basket but that is a work in progress. The truth hurts but Dirk, although great, is not yet on Duncan's level and may well never be.

Then the Spurs have Manu (who by the was was hurting "big time" for the last Dallas game) and Parker - who is playing consistently at an all-star level (not up and down like so many dALLAS players "with potential). Add Bruce Bowen one of the best defenders in the game, proven clutch players like Horry and Van Exel, your team's cheap inane dump of veteran leadership and class (i.e. Michael Finley); and you have a core that is rightfully recognized by "all the talking heads" as the class of the league.

Add the Spurs greater experience, historical top of the league defense, and at least comparable but more integrated depth, and who would you rather go into a season with - if you say the Mavericks > Spurs = You are "certifiable" and I should start drawinng up admission papers for your for a place with a nice bed and a "caged like environment = you should like that as a mouse, would you not?

Plus before you get your dreams up of even future championships down the line, the Spurs have an international pipeline of talent right now they hold rights to that the Mavericks can only dream of having.

Simply put, you are backing the wrong horse in TX, "cowboy" or should I say "cowmouse"?

[mouse]

Ohhh... so now its gone from Spurs cant beat the Mavericks to Spurs aren't worthy?

I have no say in how others respond , thus making the topic take many evil turns,It's out of my hands.

And your turning this into something like the Spurs have to prove themselves to you...

look brah let's put it another way, Your son is in a Karate match and some kid from another town whips his ass everytime they meet, You think all the trophys your son has really matters? You don't think your son would like to one day beat that kid? or does your son wait outside and when the other boy comes out he starts a chant " I have more trophys I have more trophys" Is that the kind of kid that makes you proud?

you think that kid that has scoreboard on your son gives a rats ass how many trophys you have in your house? All he cares about is that when your kid steps on the mat that he kicks his creamy white wonderbread ass all over the ring,

. again, thats why we point to the rings. I think its the Mavericks who have to prove themselves worthy, dont get it flipped around.

Did you not read the many posts above? the Ring card is getting old. It's the last resort of a deperate fan with no more good come backs,

And besides what do the rings have to do with this season? you want to beat the Mavericks, or just live in the past?

[GoSpurs21]

what's really getting old is mouses jr high logic that only someone high on home grown can understand. face it mouse, the mavs got lucky on their home opener, but will fade during the playoffs...its just like death, taxes and your lame ass attempt at smack...they are all inevitable

[JustaGirl21]

Who is mouse and why is he/she such a tool for the pitiful Mavericks?

[Suns Fan]

what's really getting old is mouses jr high logic that only someone high on home grown can understand. face it mouse, the mavs got lucky on their home opener, but will fade during the playoffs...its just like death, taxes and your lame ass attempt at smack...they are all inevitable

I am sure your the pride of SpursTalk, and the King of smack.

Another Spurs fan with no answer to how the Spurs can beat the Mavericks?

If this was a Suns board , mouse would have got his answer on page one.

[mouse]

Who is mouse and why is he/she such a tool

If you have to ask ? then your new to sports, and your better off going back to your Nick at night message boards,

for the pitiful Mavericks?

Losing by 32 points to a pitiful team? what does that say about the Spurs?

don't answer, I already added your name to the list of the other 20 in this topic who can't come up with a reason either.

[Solid D]

How will the Spurs defeat the Mavs again? Here's my approach...

As far my memory serves me, the Mavs beat the Spurs earlier this season because they did the following:

1) (D) Dared the Spurs to shoot from the outside by sagging all 5 to the lane lines.
2) (D) Collapsed on Ginobili on every drive.
3) (D) Defended the offense entry well, creating later developing plays. They know the Spurs' favorite passing lanes, particularly from the point to the wings.
4) (O) Devin Harris was aggressive and the Spurs did not keep a body on Howard, before OR after the shot.
5) (O) 2-man s/r with Dirk executed well, shot well also.

The Spurs will beat the Mavs, when they:
1) (D) Tightly defend the 2-man s/r with Dirk and the PG (Terry, Harris, Armstrong) by trapping sideline or doubling Dirk off the screen.
2) (D) Play hard on-ball defense with active hands and don't buy the ball fakes.
3) (O) Spread the floor better for penetrations and hit their normal shots to punish Dallas when they double or triple team Timmy.
3) (O) Play very aggressively and draw fouls, particularly on Howard, Dirk and Diop.

That, by the way, is basically what the Spurs do when they have beaten the Mavs before, playoffs or otherwise.

[mouse]

^Rack Ducks

Even though it's not fair that a professional Sports analyst be the one to bail out the other misguided fools of this forum?

I must say you make some good points, But until the Spurs can prove any of it on the court This season? The Mavericks will always have the rights to the OWNED! slogan on your team.

[Mush Mouth]

Man I can't wait till the Spurs play the Mavericks, I want to see this mouse guy eat crow so bad,

sorry but he gets on my nerves,

[Solid D]

I'm not Ducks and not a professional analyst, but Ownage is not usually defined in your mind but in actual playoff performance.