You tend to do too much comparing player to other players.
Each player is a unique individual and not like any other player.
I think one of the tantalizing features of Sochan is he does a lot things well and you can start to extrapolate from there and compare him to really good players.
You see a little Boris, a little Draymond etc.
It's all based on limited data and odds are against him or for that matter the majority of picks at 9+ ever becoming all stars
Categorization and comparison are tools that have allowed humanity to attain longer, healthier lives of great fulfillment. Not using those tools leads you to rooting around in the garbage eating rotten vegetables.
These are legitimate points to consider. In the end, I’m fairly down on all of our prospects in that they all have challenges, and what they offer is likely not what we need. The flip side of this is that some teams will strike gold late in the draft and it will probably just be luck. Outside the top 5, so many prospects have so many question marks. , even the top 5 have question marks. Maybe it’s good we have three picks and increase our odds.
I'm optimistic. There are some nice players available and the team can be improved considerably in this draft. , for another comparison, at least by statistics Johnny Davis compares very favorably with Bradley Beale. Him, Duren, M. Williams, any of these guys are going to be a big upgrade and help.
I suppose I shouldn't say I'm fairly down on all of them. More like, it will be interesting to see who ends up being good and who doesn't. There are a lot of similarly tiered players. But yeah, we have a lot of needs, so it won't take much to upgrade our roster, I suppose. Lol.
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9. San Antonio Spurs – Johnny Davis (SG – Wisconsin)
I like the fit of Davis joining Dejounte Murray in the Spurs backcourt. A pure scorer out of Wisconsin, Davis holds an elite scoring ability from anywhere on the court as a shooter and someone who can finish at the hoop.0. San Antonio Spurs – MarJon Beauchamp (F – G League Ignite)
We have seen Greg Popovich and the Spurs draft these project players. They are usually international prospects, but this time they elect to take a chance on Beauchamp out of the G League. A super versatile player, Beauchamp is a very intriguing prospect for a Spurs team in an interesting situation right now.25. San Antonio Spurs – Dalen Terry (F – Arizona)
I previously mentioned Jeremy Sochan being one of the most versatile players in this class. Terry fits that bill as well as someone who can play almost any position. After entering the NBA Draft but keeping his college eligibility at Arizona, Terry maintained his draft status. He becomes a very intriguing fit with the Spurs as someone who offers a lot of upside as a defender with room to grow as a shooter and overall scorer.
i wouldn't be too thrilled with marjon at #20
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9. San Antonio Spurs: Dyson Daniels, G, G League Ignite
If the Spurs miss Derrick White after trading him to the Boston Celtics at the deadline, they could take the next closest player to him now—one with an even higher ceiling.
Daniels is a good pick-and-roll facilitator that can see over opponents with his near 6'8" frame. He's not a very good outside shooter but can be a high-level defender.
He'll take some of the ball-handling pressure off of Dejounte Murray and fill every role that the Spurs ask of him.20. San Antonio Spurs (via Toronto Raptors): Nikola Jovic, F, Mega Mozzart
Jovic is a 6'10" forward who can handle the ball and gives the Spurs another big playmaker who can do a little bit of everything. Playing for San Antonio should help him develop as a defender as well.25. San Antonio Spurs (via Boston Celtics): Christian Koloko, C, Arizona
After adding some perimeter help in Dyson Daniels and Nikola Jovic, the Spurs spend their third first-rounder on paint protection. Koloko is a mobile big man who gets to learn behind Jakob Poeltl and could eventually earn the starting center job in San Antonio as early as next year.
I wouldn’t hate this take:
Daniels 9
Jovic 20
Koloko 25
But I would try to get Eason instead of Jovic, or Liddell if Eason is taken.
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San Antonio Spurs: Johnny Davis
Wisconsin Badgers: Guard, Sop re, 6-5
After starting off the season as one of the best players in college basketball, injuries eventually slowed Johnny Davis’ productivity at Wisconsin.
When asked about potentially suiting up for San Antonio next season, the Wisconsin standout guard had this to say:
“Playing under coach Popovich, the most famous coach in NBA history, would be something I would really want to happen.”
Davis reportedly met with the Spurs for a pre-draft workout, and if he is available when San Antonio is on the clock, it’s a marriage that would make a lot of sense.
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San Antonio Spurs: Jake LaRavia
Wake Forest Demon Deacons: Wing, Junior, 6-8
20-year-old forward Jake LaRavia is one of my favorite do-it-all prospects in this draft class, an ideal modern-day four.
After performing well during his athletic testing at the NBA Draft Combine, the 6-foot-8 prospect decided to opt-out of the 5-on-5 scrimmages because he was reportedly comfortable with his projected range on draft night.
The Spurs will soon host LaRavia for a pre-draft workout, For The Win has learned. LaRavia is the type of player who would do well in San Antonio’s development system. Plus, the last time the Spurs used a first-round pick on an upperclassman from Wake Forest, it turned out well.25
San Antonio Spurs: Max Christie
Michigan State Spartans: Wing, Freshman, 6-6
He didn’t have the most impressive freshman season. But Michigan State’s Max Christie, who was the fastest sprinter at the combine, has shown some promise.
Just read this quote about Christie during his time with Team USA (via The Athletic):
“Always the first to show up in the gym. The first to ask the question in the team meetings. Always, literally, pushing himself as like ‘I’m going to be the voice; I’m going to be the leader,’ in a good way. He was always, like the team would be quiet, he would be the one to say something. He’s the extrovert when it comes to things like that. And he was a great teammate. And he played great. We had Max three times before we actually picked the team, in three camps, and he was that way from the first camp. Always, we go through drills at the first camp. The second camp, he was going to be first in line to make sure everybody knew, saw the way the drill was supposed to go. The guy who’d say ‘Hey, fellas, let’s make sure we pick up the trash in the cafeteria.’ He was that guy. For jerks, he was probably like ‘Why is this dude telling me what to do?’ But for the guys we wanted around, they would definitely feed off of that type of leadership.”
Yeah, that’s someone the Spurs are going to absolutely fall in love with.38. San Antonio Spurs: Kennedy Chandler (Tennessee Volunteers: Guard, Freshman, 6-0)
So what would be the Spurs comparison for these prospects?
Dyson Daniels is Derrick White with a higher ceiling.
Jeremy Sochan is Boris Diaw.
Johnny Davis is a poor man's Manu Ginobili.
Ousmane Dieng is a rich man's Kyle Anderson.
Bennedict Mathurin is a cross between Devin Vassell and Lonnie Walker.
Yes, except I think Marhurin is basically slightly taller Lonnie. Don’t see vassell in there.
Also, I can see a world where the spurs already see Primo as more confident version of White, which is why I don’t think they’ll ultimately take Daniels even if he slips.
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Walker and Mathurin are the same only in type. Mathurin, other than being much more productive coming out of college (take that as you will), is basically a Lonnie Walker with a ridiculous amount of confidence. Maybe too much, in fact. One of his knocks is that he sometimes takes shots he shouldn't. One video analysis points out he shoots anytime the PNR defense went under the screen, like an instant trigger pull. Of course that was his role, but the guy doesn't have Walker's wobbly knees.
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Round 1 - Pick 9
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Jalen Duren C
Memphis • Fr • 6'11" / 250 lbs
Projected Team
San Antonio
PROSPECT RNK
17th
POSITION RNK
2nd
PPG
12
RPG
8.1
APG
1.3
FG%
59.7%
Duren isn't really the type of floor-spacing big franchises prefer these days, but he's such a physical specimen and great athlete that there's probably a place for him in the top 10 of this draft. At worst, he should be a terrific rim-running and rim-protecting center who alters shots, dunks everything and is good enough guarding in space.Round 1 - Pick 20
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Jaden Hardy SG
G League Ignite • 6'4" / 185 lbs
Projected Team
San Antonio
PROSPECT RNK
24th
POSITION RNK
6th
PPG
17.7
RPG
4.6
APG
3.2
3P%
26.9%
Hardy didn't do much over the past year to help his draft stock — but he's still a likely first-round talent capable of developing into a special player. Being drafted by a franchise like San Antonio would probably be the best thing for the trajectory of his career.Round 1 - Pick 25
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Christian Braun SG
Kansas • Jr • 6'6" / 218 lbs
Projected Team
San Antonio
PROSPECT RNK
40th
POSITION RNK
13th
PPG
14.1
RPG
6.5
APG
2.8
3P%
38.6%
Braun is a wing with size who can guard his position, reliably make jumpers and finish in transition. He's the type of prospect who could flourish in the culture San Antonio has established.
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9. San Antonio Spurs: Bennedict Mathurin, SG/SF, Arizona
Mathurin provides the Spurs with a second guard to pair with Dejounte Murray in the backcourt. Mathurin is one of my favorite prospects in this draft and I believe he will have a much greater impact in the NBA than he has been given credit for. It's not by chance that the Arizona Wildcats were picked to finish 4th in the Pac-12 and ended up as a No. 1 seed in the NCAA Tournament.20. San Antonio Spurs: Nikola Jovic, PF, Serbia
The Spurs have one of the best international scouting departments in the NBA and will not hesitate to draft the Serbian forward.25. San Antonio Spurs: Andrew Nembhard, G, Gonzaga
As a backup point guard, Nembhard’s qualities and traits make him a player the Spurs would be very interested in adding to their roster. Following an impressive performance at the NBA Combine, Nembhard's stock is rising.
So Raf Barlowe sent out some information RE: latest rumours he’s hearing from draft circles.
I won’t post it all as the man is trying to make a living…
The San Antonio Spurs have four picks (Nos. 9, 20, 25 and 38) and are expected to be active on draft night and especially looking to move up. Several scouts and agents I have spoken with believe the Spurs have their sights set on a traditional center, with Jalen Duren and Mark Williams in the mix for the ninth pick. It is also believed that San Antonio is unlikely to bring in four rookies to training camp, so look for the Spurs to consolidate their picks via trade.
The Mark Williams hype appears very real. I wonder who they would be moving up for? I’d expect he must be referring to getting into the teens, perhaps to grab Jalen Williams?
Blake Wesley, a SpursTalk fave, is apparently killing it in workouts and has several scheduled with teams in the backend of the lottery…
I like no. 20, I think someone WILL be available there (Eason, Jalen Williams, Wesley). It's 25 I have less faith on. Ever since the lottery we've known that it'd be extremely unlikely to land a franchise talent, but if we came away with three quality starters and a better rounded roster (say Sochan/Eason + Jalen Williams/Johnny Davis/Branham + Blake Wesley) that'd go a LONG WAY to improve our chances. Keeping 20 while landing a second pick in the teens, or landing 13 & 15 via trade (say turning 9 & 25 into 13 & 15) would put us in position to do just that.
I'm really interested to see what Kupchak/MJ do with Charlotte's #13 & 15 picks. They've drafted well in the last few years, so I wonder what they'll emphasize this year. Everyone's saying a center, but MJ dominated the league with a center-by-committee team, and it seems in this era that versatile swing players are more valuable than ever.
I suspect it's just people attempting to put two and two together. Team has four picks between 9-38, a need for a star, no young bigs and has drafted guard/wing heavy for a long time, so naturally that must mean they're trying to trade up and are targeting one of the two centers.
My sense is Williams would be in a Poeltl to Hornets package where they get 13 or 15 and utilize it on him.
1. The Hornets don't have Jordan, 2. R. Williams, on one leg, was the most dominate player in game 3 of the Finals. Bigs have swept the past 2 MVP Finalists ballot, won the last 4 total and been the best player in the previous 2 playoffs.
I'd be shocked and it'd be malpractice on their part to not either utilize one of those picks on a C or trade for an established one.
I’m
Pretty much all in on Johnny Davis being the pick. Just too much there that says all star player to pass up.
also my 1st option, really giving me some Brandon Roy vibe
^ I see Brandon Roy also. But more importantly, he’s an alpha and a of a compe or. He checks off 1. Go-to scorer and, 2. Point-of-attack defender. Spurs have 3 more picks to address defensive PF, a project big behind Poeltl and maybe a backup facilitator or maybe a stash who has a lot of potential.
People throw away comps like nothing
not everyone is ing Ginobili
Johnny Davis looks like he will have difficulty getting his shots up in the NBA against quicker and longer defenders. Booker compensates for that with his range. Davis doesn’t have that. Davis already gets blocked so much in college. No amount of “alpha” will change that.
I like Mark, but at 9?
I’m still holding to my “pinch CHA” strategy: Draft Duren at 9, have them get anxious about not getting their C, trade back to 13+15 with Duren, grab best available at 13, grab Williams at 15 (no way Cleveland is taking a C at 14).
If we’ve lucky Deing or Sochan are still on the board at 13.
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