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    Any reasonable poster would have said ‘Whoops, my bad, I meant 11’ instead of making it a hill to die on. I simply pointed it out, and you immediately called me a clown, which led to all of this.
    That would have been exactly correct if I had not already realized with 99% confidence you would swoop right in to save the day and me the trouble. Thank you come again!

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    A french player that is having a strong start of the season is Noah Penda. He is a smart versatile SF/PF with a decent mix of strength, size and mobility. He could be a good option with a 2nd round pick especially if he is fine with being stashed.

    With Branham and Wesley options being picked and with Spurs having a lot of draft picks, using some of them on draft and stash players is quite likely.

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    Interesting I like that his shooting percentages are getting better definitely one to watch - Not sure about second round as I had Salaun as one of potential second round picks early on only to see him fly up draft boards and picked in lottery. Lol

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    Who will lose more games and have the better pick?

    Atlanta (pick to the Spurs)

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    Lakers (pick to the Hawks)

    I think Atlanta will end up with a higher pick on draft night than SA from the Dejounte trade

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    Who will lose more games and have the better pick?

    Atlanta (pick to the Spurs)

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    Lakers (pick to the Hawks)

    I think Atlanta will end up with a higher pick on draft night than SA from the Dejounte trade
    Interesting question, hadn’t appreciated that the Hawks have the Lakers pick after the DJ trade.

    Think ATL will have the worse record. It’ll be close— both feel like play-in teams — but being a play-in team in the West will probably require a better record.

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    Who will lose more games and have the better pick?

    Atlanta (pick to the Spurs)

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    Lakers (pick to the Hawks)

    I think Atlanta will end up with a higher pick on draft night than SA from the Dejounte trade
    Great question.

    Last year LAL went 47-35. This seems absurd. I'm not sure how they won so many games.

    Last year ATL went the opposite, 36-46.

    Will LeBron finally fall off? A lot of expectations of a big jump for Jalen Johnson. All-Star possibility?

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    Who will lose more games and have the better pick?

    Atlanta (pick to the Spurs)

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    Lakers (pick to the Hawks)

    I think Atlanta will end up with a higher pick on draft night than SA from the Dejounte trade
    The wins and losses are only the starting point. The lottery actually decides the pick order.

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    The wins and losses are only the starting point. The lottery actually decides the pick order.
    Only if both teams are in the lottery.

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    hawks players have looked pretty good this offseason. dyson daniels looked good in the olympics and even shot the ball pretty well in the preseason. risacher's integration has looked seamless. and jalen johnson is one of those guys primed to make a big leap.

    daniels is the POA defender that the hawks thought they were getting in murray. and risacher provides them with actual spacing as opposed to hunter. and we all like kobe bufkin last draft. he played pretty well in gleague last year. i think the hawks could be better than we'd like them to be. would be really annoying if they are the team to bump charlotte out of the play-in

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    Dyson Daniels seems a better fit from what I saw than Dejounte. With Risacher, they have some wings with upside and their Conference is terrible. It all depends on Trae, though, and he's not a winning player.

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    Not only do I think Atlanta makes the playoffs this year, but I think they're on track to have a better record than SA in 25-26, which means the swap right evaporates

    People have underestimated how well things went for Atlanta the last 12 months as far as setting them up for the future.

    1. Even with a disaster year for them, they still won 14 games more than SA last year
    2. Jalen Johnson became a legit stud, not surprising that he's another guy the Spurs had ranked below Primo
    3. Dejounte signed an extension meaning the nightmare of him leaving in free agency for nothing was dodged
    4. They then traded Dejounte for credible nba players (unlike the players SA got back for Dejounte) PLUS some nice draft picks that could realistically be better than what they lost trading for Dejounte
    5. Lottery luck in getting Risacher instead of settling for someone at their given slot. Risacher might not be an all-star but he's likely to help the roster now and the long term


    The 3 seasons prior to 23-24 with a healthy Young had ATL finish .500 or better. If reasonably healthy they're a lock for the play-in, and I wouldn't be stunned if they're top 6 like in 20-21 where they ended up picking Johnson at pick #20

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    Only if both teams are in the lottery.
    They will be.

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    hawks players have looked pretty good this offseason. dyson daniels looked good in the olympics and even shot the ball pretty well in the preseason. risacher's integration has looked seamless. and jalen johnson is one of those guys primed to make a big leap.

    daniels is the POA defender that the hawks thought they were getting in murray. and risacher provides them with actual spacing as opposed to hunter. and we all like kobe bufkin last draft. he played pretty well in gleague last year. i think the hawks could be better than we'd like them to be. would be really annoying if they are the team to bump charlotte out of the play-in
    Ugh, that would be the double Whammy. Insult to injury would be CHA beating CHI late in the season to push CHI to #10, put CHA in the Play-in only to lose to ATL… would be the perfect storm of this

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    Not only do I think Atlanta makes the playoffs this year, but I think they're on track to have a better record than SA in 25-26, which means the swap right evaporates

    People have underestimated how well things went for Atlanta the last 12 months as far as setting them up for the future.

    1. Even with a disaster year for them, they still won 14 games more than SA last year
    2. Jalen Johnson became a legit stud, not surprising that he's another guy the Spurs had ranked below Primo
    3. Dejounte signed an extension meaning the nightmare of him leaving in free agency for nothing was dodged
    4. They then traded Dejounte for credible nba players (unlike the players SA got back for Dejounte) PLUS some nice draft picks that could realistically be better than what they lost trading for Dejounte
    5. Lottery luck in getting Risacher instead of settling for someone at their given slot. Risacher might not be an all-star but he's likely to help the roster now and the long term


    The 3 seasons prior to 23-24 with a healthy Young had ATL finish .500 or better. If reasonably healthy they're a lock for the play-in, and I wouldn't be stunned if they're top 6 like in 20-21 where they ended up picking Johnson at pick #20
    This is the very realistic possibility that Sniffers want to pretend is impossible. “Muh draft pix” has the potential to be tragically hilarious for the Sniff Crew, but I’m hoping we that ATL pick conveys high and we surprise and make the playoffs.

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    Not only do I think Atlanta makes the playoffs this year, but I think they're on track to have a better record than SA in 25-26, which means the swap right evaporates

    People have underestimated how well things went for Atlanta the last 12 months as far as setting them up for the future.

    1. Even with a disaster year for them, they still won 14 games more than SA last year
    2. Jalen Johnson became a legit stud, not surprising that he's another guy the Spurs had ranked below Primo
    3. Dejounte signed an extension meaning the nightmare of him leaving in free agency for nothing was dodged
    4. They then traded Dejounte for credible nba players (unlike the players SA got back for Dejounte) PLUS some nice draft picks that could realistically be better than what they lost trading for Dejounte
    5. Lottery luck in getting Risacher instead of settling for someone at their given slot. Risacher might not be an all-star but he's likely to help the roster now and the long term


    The 3 seasons prior to 23-24 with a healthy Young had ATL finish .500 or better. If reasonably healthy they're a lock for the play-in, and I wouldn't be stunned if they're top 6 like in 20-21 where they ended up picking Johnson at pick #20
    1. The disaster is that their win % has steadily dropped over each of the last 4 years.

    2. Nineteen teams passed on JJ, mainly because he switched high schools like socks, and quit Duke mid season. He and his family were giving off very weird vibes. He’s a nice young player, but nothing to get too excited about. He probably tops out at good starting level player. He got his big boost in minutes and touches, and he was a guy, nothing more. Nothing popped in his counting or advanced stats.

    3. He signed one with SA, too.

    4. ATL got Daniel’s, who’s a guy, and 3 garbage players. The Lakers pick will be mid unless LeBron misses most of the season. The other pick, the 2027, will be mid at BEST, and could easily be at the end of the round, since it a worst of two picks, New Orleans or Milwaukee, and its top 4 protected. There’s no way these picks even compare to our haul from ATL. Your paragraph 4 is pure copium.

    5. Risacher is nice, but you kind of want more than that at #1.

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    Yeah, interesting to see if ATL surprises. I'm curious since Jalen just got his bag he might regress. That may be the biggest factor for them. We'll see.

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    yeah nothing popped out for jalen johnson aside from his increased shooting, scoring, rebounding, playmaking, and defense

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    yeah nothing popped out for jalen johnson aside from his increased shooting, scoring, rebounding, playmaking, and defense
    No one is saying he didn’t improve. He absolutely did, but a massive increase in minutes and touches yielded 16/8.7/3.6. That doesn’t pop, to me. Where’s any future improvement going to come from? He’s already playing 34 minutes, a jump of 20 per game over season two.

    He gets all the credit in the world for becoming starter level player when he looked like a bust, but IMO, he’s at his ceiling, or at least close.

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    Not only do I think Atlanta makes the playoffs this year, but I think they're on track to have a better record than SA in 25-26, which means the swap right evaporates

    People have underestimated how well things went for Atlanta the last 12 months as far as setting them up for the future.

    1. Even with a disaster year for them, they still won 14 games more than SA last year
    2. Jalen Johnson became a legit stud, not surprising that he's another guy the Spurs had ranked below Primo
    3. Dejounte signed an extension meaning the nightmare of him leaving in free agency for nothing was dodged
    4. They then traded Dejounte for credible nba players (unlike the players SA got back for Dejounte) PLUS some nice draft picks that could realistically be better than what they lost trading for Dejounte
    5. Lottery luck in getting Risacher instead of settling for someone at their given slot. Risacher might not be an all-star but he's likely to help the roster now and the long term


    The 3 seasons prior to 23-24 with a healthy Young had ATL finish .500 or better. If reasonably healthy they're a lock for the play-in, and I wouldn't be stunned if they're top 6 like in 20-21 where they ended up picking Johnson at pick #20
    Don't forget:

    6. Scrub ass Alex Sarr refusing to work out for them and basically telling the Hawks not to draft him. He really looks like but they would have probably taken him as a Capella replacement if not for his act.

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    This is the very realistic possibility that Sniffers want to pretend is impossible. “Muh draft pix” has the potential to be tragically hilarious for the Sniff Crew, but I’m hoping we that ATL pick conveys high and we surprise and make the playoffs.
    Yeah another reason I was on board with using the ATL draft capital on Markannen (just not the 25 pick since the Spurs need players now LOL 20131).

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    Yeah another reason I was on board with using the ATL draft capital on Markannen (just not the 25 pick since the Spurs need players now LOL 20131).
    By “now” you mean 20147, right?

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    No one is saying he didn’t improve. He absolutely did, but a massive increase in minutes and touches yielded 16/8.7/3.6. That doesn’t pop, to me. Where’s any future improvement going to come from? He’s already playing 34 minutes, a jump of 20 per game over season two.

    He gets all the credit in the world for becoming starter level player when he looked like a bust, but IMO, he’s at his ceiling, or at least close.
    It would be amazing to see a player increase his scoring average by nearly 11ppg without a increase in minutes or touches

    Note to the folks on this board who apparently still don’t understand how basketball works: you generally want to increase the playing time and usage of your most efficient players. I get how this concept is foreign to folks who only watch the Spurs, where Popovich likes to force feed Branmeh minutes down our throats.

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    It would be amazing to see a player increase his scoring average by nearly 11ppg without a increase in minutes or touches

    Note to the folks on this board who apparently still don’t understand how basketball works: you generally want to increase the playing time and usage of your most efficient players. I get how this concept is foreign to folks who only watch the Spurs, where Popovich likes to force feed Branmeh minutes down our throats.
    The minutes were posted to show that he’s probably topped out there, not that there was any mystery as to the source of his improvement. I’m also not sure he’s all that efficient. None of his advanced stats are anything but meh.

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    I watched Noa Essengue and Ben Saraf in person. Both are good to be drafted and stashed for couple years.
    While Essengue athletism is special, I don't think he is going to be that good, and would not like him as a pick. There are plenty of long, athletic prospect and they would have to have something unmeasurable.

    Saraf has this something in him, but I dont know if athletism would allow him to play in the NBA on point guard. Definately worth to use SRP on him.

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    Barring major injuries or a nonsensical Trae Young trade, I don't see the Hawks not reaching at least a play-in spot.

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