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leadership, defense , rebounding, offense, he would take the wemby project to overdrive and get him the roty.. do something wright Brian..
That is annoying, good thing I don't follow him then.
leadership, defense , rebounding, offense, he would take the wemby project to overdrive and get him the roty.. do something wright Brian..
Well they can easily use Austin Reeves plus one other player and if they get that pick, they can flip it for something else or hold on to it and see if it turns into gold down the road. It will be a highly tradeable pick for the next two years for sure.
Makes no sense because the spurs have a vested interest in murray getting traded AND for the hawks to get bad, so don't see how they can be a team that will up the asking price by the Hawks.
Hey Lakers...you better pay up for Dejounte, otherwise we going to send him to the team thats wants us to be bad cause they have our future picks.
No one is a good defender next to Trae. He doesn't even try. Hunter is also exceptionally bad. So is Johnson. Dejounte is still good defensively but he not good enough to cover for three guys. Capella has fallen off a the cliff as a rim protector. Put Dejounte on the floor with Wemby and Devin...in probably 30 games they'd be a top 10 defensive lineup.
Nothing he going to do playing with Doug, Cedi, and Keldon on the floor. They are all time bad. Peak defensive Kawhi couldn't save that lineup.
no, they’ll say the Spurs are offering KJ, two unprotected first round picks and 3 2nd picks. They could get some or all of their picks back from the Spurs. But I don’t think they want picks. I think they want players and picks they can flip for good players. They want in the playoffs.
this one seems way more speculative
According to that Hawks forum, this is what they think the offers are:
I mean, lol that NOLA trade. Might as well throw in Zion and BI too.Rumored trade offers Ive seen
Knicks
Grimes + Sims+ Fournier(expiring) + picks
Only consider this if Grimes can defend POA and we get one the Knicks OWN picks..
Sixers
Melton + Reed + picks
Melton would be a decent fit beside Trae tbh..
And Reed brings toughness up front..
I actually kinda like the Sixers deal .. But the picks would probably suck..
I do like the Clippers 2028 pick & Philly’s 2029 with swap rights with Clippers, but the only other 1st rd pick is likely OKC’s in 2026. I doubt Philly would put all those on the table..
Pels
Murphy + Jones + picks(I cant see them giving up both Murphy and Jones) more likely Murphy + Kyra Lewis or Dyson Daniels
Id take this deal
What are the Spurs offering? ��
Reading their forum, the picks and swaps is their holocaust. Which makes me inclined to only agree to a package that does not include those or any '25 FRPs for the reasons BB has pointed out.
Another thought - does it make sense for ATL to try a mini 1 year tank since they own thier pick this year (I think). Outside of the spurs giving them their picks back, it doesn't make much sense for the Hawks to ac ulate future trade capital since we own their picks over the next few years. Yes, I get that they would want to offset the harm of giving us their picks by getting some of their own, but it makes more sense to try to be as compe ive as possible to minimize the harm of giving us those picks in the first place. And on that front, apparently Siakam has told ATL that he won't resign, which will kill the TOR deal. I don't really see the NYK/LAL packages as being all that great. NOLA still lurks though.
F* Murray. But I would take him with open arms at this point. Lol
Hope ole Dukes is right
That Pelicans trade doesn't work, they have no realistic way to match salary period and no way a team as desperate as they are for shooting would trade Murphy.
where the does pascall want to sign at
the thing is when the Spurs traded Murray he was an All-Star and those got traded for 4-5 first round picks that summer (Utah with Gobert and Mitc ). Since then most teams ran out of picks which made 2nd rounders become a lot more valuable and DJ ain't an All-Star anymore, so that has to drive the price down. What the Spurs can also offer is to eliminate the 26 swap. I'd still try to keep both ATL picks though and definitely all the 25 ones, cause there's a huge chance to strike gold there.
DJ would be a game changer, but the Spurs can't blow all their assets in one move. We don't really have that many first round picks like OKC. We got a lot of swaps and seconds though.
They jave like rhe 7th worst record right now and this is the last year they control their pick until 2028. I think they want picks and to get this years pick as high as possible so they have capital this summer. I think thats why the Fournier + Grimes deal thats so bad is being considered.
I'd rather keep the 26 swap than the 27 pick considering Boozer is in the 26 class
Oh I thought he's in the 25 class too. Yeah, then rather give them back 27
possibly philly?
DJ under contract for 3 full seasons after this year on a bargain deal makes him pretty damn attractive tho. at the time he was traded, most people thought he would wait till free agency and max out for closer to 40m/year
Yall really think that this Lazy FO is actually going get off their ass and actually GM? Now that's funny
Yeah Philly is going to have enormous capspace, somewhere around $60-65 million even after signing Maxey.
spurs can just offer them the worst of the 25 picks to ensure they still maximize chance of Flagg. give back 27 outright.
thats still 2 FRP right there. this way hawks can still tank into a decent pick in a 2024 draft, they will still get a FRP in 2025, still have the lesser of the 2026 picks per the swap, and get their original 2027 pick back
add in the fake charlotte pick, branham + graham for salary
not to mention they can take advantage of maxey's cap hold being lower than what he's going to sign for, same way spurs were able to squeeze in aldridge signing before re-signing kawhi
Those are definitely two better firsts than they'll get out of the Knicks. I want Patty too though if they're getting a 25 first which should still be decent. Much rather have him backing up Devin than ing Branham.
Everyone trying to see how the Spurs can rip the Hawks off again.
The Hawks won't be giving him away to the spurs after their bad trade with the Spurs the first time.
LOL @ that Hawks forum someone posted. They thing we should give them all their picks back and the swap should go the other way. Basically, that we should pay them for letting them have Murray for 2 years
Nothing to this point has moved me off of my original thoughts at an offer:
SA '27 FRP (Unprotected)
CHI Pick
Anyone who isn't Wemby, Devin, Keldon, Tre.
If they want Sochan, downgrade the CHI pick to the CHA pick plus two more SRPs.
I also thought about making the '27 pick the lesser of SA or ATL, but I think ATL needs a little bit of upside and I'm definitely not offering them the best of the two. I also am betting that we'll be good by 2027.
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