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    Duncan is athletic. Athleticism doesn't just encompass jumping high. (Although Duncan does have reasonable leaping ability.) Duncan is agile, quick, coordinated, and can run. He can do these things because he is athletic. It's kind of like the fast twitch vs. slow twitch thing. Kevin Garnett has more of that leaping explosiveness whereas Tim Duncan has more agility and coordination.
    Nice post. That's a great way to put it.

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    You don't have a clue. Someone ought to give you one for Christmas.
    I'm just going off what I've read in this thread and some other threads.

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    Yikes!!! You are about to get your head cut off. Don't you know that you can be stoned to death for making a comment like that in this forum.

    This is a forum where people who somewhat question the Spurs players, coaches, or owner get dissed and head chewed off. In case you didn't know. You either praise the Spurs players or you're not welcomed.
    HAHA - If I'm owned or whatever when I turn off the computer that's ok. I'm just sitting here relaxing in the bed after waking up at 1:23. It's my Christmas holidays and I thought I would put some opinions on ST.

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    That's good, cause I'm done beating my head against the wall. The wall's all bloody and I have one of a headache.
    So you don't know if its a hard life?

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    HAHA - If I'm owned or whatever when I turn off the computer that's ok. I'm just sitting here relaxing in the bed after waking up at 1:23. It's my Christmas holidays and I thought I would put some opinions on ST.
    Well, a lot of people do that here, but somehow people here twist it and think you are the s of the Earth if you don't agree with them.

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    Yikes!!! You are about to get your head cut off. Don't you know that you can be stoned to death for making a comment like that in this forum.

    This is a forum where people who somewhat question the Spurs players, coaches, or owner get dissed and head chewed off. In case you didn't know. You either praise the Spurs players or you're not welcomed.
    Sure, because questioning a multi-champion player's toughness, heart, and work ethic because he plays a few subpar games when it doesn't really matter all that much is reasonable, especially because middle-class people in industry get sore muscles from working hard.

    I imagine you'd lynch somebody with a six-figure office job.

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    HAHA - If I'm owned or whatever when I turn off the computer that's ok. I'm just sitting here relaxing in the bed after waking up at 1:23. It's my Christmas holidays and I thought I would put some opinions on ST.
    You're pretty knowledgable. I had to go back and hastily edit a sarcastic post to avoid getting punked by you.

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    HAHA - If I'm owned or whatever when I turn off the computer that's ok. I'm just sitting here relaxing in the bed after waking up at 1:23. It's my Christmas holidays and I thought I would put some opinions on ST.
    So, what do you think. And I'm not saying out of rhetorical sarcasm, but rather asking somebody who seems to have a pretty good perspective:

    Granted that Tim Duncan lives a privileged lifestyle by virtue of being an NBA superstar,

    granted that he is a natural for whom the fundamentals of basketball come easier than they do for some others,

    it is reasonable for fans to tear him a new one when he goes into his nearly-annual early-season funk?

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    What singer hasn't been insulted cause of his songs?

    I'm saying what superstar doesn't have his struggles or downsides.

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    Sure, because questioning a multi-champion player's toughness, heart, and work ethic because he plays a few subpar games when it doesn't really matter all that much is reasonable, especially because middle-class people in industry get sore muscles from working hard.

    I imagine you'd lynch somebody with a six-figure office job.
    Get off my nuts dude. You think you can talk to anyone here the way you want because you're sitting behind some computer? If you were in this person's face or that's person's face you wouldn't be so brave.

    Why don't you go and try to hit on some teenage chick that's logged into some chat room you old bas .

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    You think you can talk to anyone here the way you want because you're sitting behind some computer?
    Apparently that's what YOU think.

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    Apparently that's what YOU think.
    Who the heck are you? Are you two working together? Get off my nuts too old hag.

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    Well, that looks like a cat that's been cornered one too many times. Aahahaha.

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    Get off my nuts dude. You think you can talk to anyone here the way you want because you're sitting behind some computer? If you were in this person's face or that's person's face you wouldn't be so brave.

    Why don't you go and try to hit on some teenage chick that's logged into some chat room you old bas .
    More typical San Antonio. Your argument loses on the merits, therefore you lose your temper and long for a throwdown.

    I imagine you'd be trying to pull a knife on me now.

    "So, why did you try to stab the guy? Well, officer, we were arguing about Tim Duncan."

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    Who the heck are you? Are you two working together? Get off my nuts too old hag.


    Like I said before...when all else fails, the insults fly! Those remarks make you look about 12.

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    Like I said before...when all else fails, the insults fly! Those remarks make you look about 12.
    E, you wanna bounce, esse?

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    More typical San Antonio. Your argument loses on the merits, therefore you lose your temper and long for a throwdown.

    I imagine you'd be trying to pull a knife on me now.

    "So, why did you try to stab the guy? Well, officer, we were arguing about Tim Duncan."
    Typical Redneck, Trailer Trash reply. Always assume that people in San Antonio turn to violence to resolve matters.

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    Like I said before...when all else fails, the insults fly! Those remarks make you look about 12.
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    Waste of my time.

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    E, you wanna bounce, esse?
    Don't you have some Klan meeting to get to? Go on boy.

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    E, you wanna bounce, esse?
    Okie dokie!

    Your trailer or mine, redneck?

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    Don't you have some Klan meeting to get to? Go on boy.
    I can't go. I just washed the sheets and haven't had a chance to iron them yet.

    It's not a racial thing. Believe me, it's not a racial thing. It's a San Antonio thing. The gringos there have the same inferiority complex. Funny how it even manifests itself in being jealous of Tim Duncan.

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    Since Tim Duncan is so lazy and gets tired easily, San Antonians should give up on the affected, prima donna Spurs and start rooting for the hard-working Pistons.

    Detroit Pistons: Goin' to work. Every night. It's even on their website.

    Screw Tim Duncan and his get-tired-like-Donovan-McNabb-except-it's-not-in-the-Super-Bowl-but-that-doesn't-matter ass. Ben Wallace doesn't get tired.

    That's not pointed at you, kris, just in case you think it was.

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    Typical Redneck, Trailer Trash reply. Always assume that people in San Antonio turn to violence to resolve matters.
    I'm from San Antonio, and I always carry a big knife around with me just in case I lose a basketball argument.

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    So, what do you think. And I'm not saying out of rhetorical sarcasm, but rather asking somebody who seems to have a pretty good perspective:

    Granted that Tim Duncan lives a privileged lifestyle by virtue of being an NBA superstar,

    granted that he is a natural for whom the fundamentals of basketball come easier than they do for some others,

    it is reasonable for fans to tear him a new one when he goes into his nearly-annual early-season funk?
    Yes and No and depends on what you mean by tear into him. It's kind of a gray area because it's really subjective. Some people get really upset when Duncan has a bad day because they like him so much it makes them a little down. So when they come in here and just say "he f...ing sucks" then they are obviously emotional and upset with him. I don't agree with that stance but it is an internet message board, so I guess you get what you pay for.

    Then, there's the reciprocal of fans that are tried and true. Their guy, Duncan in this case, could be averaging 12 points a game and 5 rebounds over the last 10 games and they would still stick by him. Are they blinded by their loyalty and faith? Maybe. Are they making excuses for him by saying he's injured? Maybe. Maybe not. Everybody knows that a nagging injury will bring your game down.

    After that is the fans that really are just trying to say he is not playing well right now. Just matter of fact speaking. They aren't trying to say anything too extreme, like the highest polarity of the other two groups (ie trade him or he's playing great you just don't know it), they are just really trying to objectively say what they think. Whether their opinion is right or not, who knows?

    And then you have blends of these types of people and other people as well. But, those are the three main groups I see when I read this kind of stuff. I think the middle ground is the most reasonable. However, I don't always agree with the objective people.

    On Duncan himself, I don't think he has played great for a sustained period of time for a long time. I used to love watching him play because he was exciting and almost flat unstoppable. Then, he got too far into that drawing fouls thing and now he's out of that but perhaps playing too unselfishly and with not enough authority.

    If he ever gets back to his old self, I think it will be evident to everyone.

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    What singer hasn't been insulted cause of his songs?

    I'm saying what superstar doesn't have his struggles or downsides.
    I agree.

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