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Chris Mihm, I guess.
No . Who would you have set it?
Chris Mihm, I guess.
rasho is also often setting that pick, nazr is lost in the lane when it is supposed to be set.
Someone did. I can read just fine. I can also assess why the Spurs are successful. But that requires being able to watch a game and understand what is going on...
no one did, your assumption is that they did. therein lies the problem. the spurs over a long term period do owe their success to duncan, just as they did to robinson before that. now, duncan isn't the sole reason for their success - he has 2 all star teammates to help him carry the load. i don't know why that rubs you the wrong way.
He has two All-Star teammates due to his presence.
Not the point. You said Manu was chosen an All Star because of his accomplishments in the post season. I proved you wrong.
Go re read the thread, moron.
WHY EVEN BOTHER!?
Sure, that's how he made his name. He was an All-Star when TD was his teammate. Again and again his success begins with having TD as his teammate.
Tsk tsk. Someone's mad.Go re read the thread, moron.
WHY EVEN BOTHER!?
Yes, I'm not quite sure why I bother.
Would it help you guys bury the hatchet if I posted a rant about Manu's flopping?
No, it's not how he made his name. He had a name before he came to the US.
In any case, did you re read your early post as I said?
No?
Well, here is
This statement is bull .
And you can't prove you point about his success beginning with having TD as his teammate. No matter how hard you try, you can't.
Manu had 13 points in the last 2.47 minutes in the Indy game. In none of those 13 points TD was remotely involved.
How did TD help Manu make (i) the floater on the 2.47 minute mark, (ii) that 35 foot three pointer, (iii) the steal he had right after the 3 pointer, (iv) all his cluth FTs.
(i) TD's presence forces the opposition to focus on him and clear up the paint for Ginobili to drive. This is the essence of TD's value to the rest of his teammates. Take away TD and replace him with Mihm and the defense is keying on Manu. Spurs struggle to perhaps make the playoffs.
(ii) Great shot. He's unlikely to hit that shot often.
(iii) In general, TD anchors the defense which allows his teammates to focus on covering their man.
(iv) About the only offensive play which doesn't involve TD.
It's all a question of chemistry. Detroit has it perfect. Gino + Tim + Parker + Bowen is a deadly tail, and its proven, but we're missing a Center at this level.
It's like the JLA:
Tim:Superman
Manu:Batman
Tony:Flash
Bruce:Hulk?
Rasho/Nazr: Wonderwoman
I don't either. It's like in Peter's eyes, giving props to TP or Manu is taking away from TD.
Go figure . . .
When you act as though Manu could do it on his own, well, it is.
Damn! The same troll has hijacked two Manu threads in one day.
1) Manu's consistant history of clutch play cannot be denied.
2) Manu's consistant history of clutch play does not distract from TD's greatness.
If you cannot understand the simple truth of both 1 and 2, go away and bet a clue.
Damn, someone disagrees with the mind cluster here and they're a "troll". Well, dish out all the names you want, it belies your ability to actually discuss the issue at hand.
Peter, you can express all the disagreements and different points of view you want on this board, and most will engage in civil discussion.
Your problem is you twist and throw out red herrings that you don't, and in most cases you can't back up, because your references to past posts are mostly lies and BS.
You have made many untrue statements in this thread, debating what you claim others have said.
When asked to put up or shut up, your responce is to tap dance. I will give it one more try, them I am done.
If you can find where anyone said anything bad about Tim OR said Manu > Tim in this thread, post it. If not STFU, or better yet, be a Man and admit you highjacked the thread by misquoting others.
It's not a red herring. It was claimed that Manu is on par with TD in the NBA.
I'll do what I want and I certainly won't kowtow to a group whose only response is to scream and yell.
No. You don't graduate to "troll" until you spew endless garbage without facts or evidence.
I'm about as non-homer as they come, so trust me. This has nothing to do you "stepping in line", and everything to do with you living in a fantasy world. Time to wake up.
I've offered both. What you brought consisted of neither.
More of the same from you.I'm about as non-homer as they come, so trust me. This has nothing to do you "stepping in line", and everything to do with you living in a fantasy world. Time to wake up.
I have Tivoed that game and watched the last three minutes five times. Manu made all four of the points I brough up on his own (the floater, the three pointer, the steal and the FTs)
The funniest thing is that you now claim that Manu's steals are also because of Duncan.
Whatever . . .
I did not claim that steal was created by TD, but that in general, TD's presence in the paint allows the Spurs perimeter defenders to be more aggressive. That shouldn't be controversial.
Sure, saying Manu beat TD in the Olympics is implying Manu is better than TD (even though I stated till I'm blue in the face Manu<Tim).
And you never twist the truth.
Naaaahhhhhh
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