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I wonder what Molly Ivens would have us do with the 12 million newly unemployed immigrants living in this country under that scenario.
Is cost really the main issue here? We throw money at everything.
I wonder what Molly Ivens would have us do with the 12 million newly unemployed immigrants living in this country under that scenario.
I don't think cost is as much of an issue as the impracticality of such a project.
It's almost as if the fence idea is in place to placate those who want to see the government do something that has immediate results. Let's face it, a fence will not keep people out. However, if it helps people sleep better at night, more power to them.
I'm no fan of Molly Ivins, but, given her suggestions, if employment opportunities evaporate, illegal immigration would cease. ... or, a massive crimewave would ensue.
I understand her point as a solution to stop illegal immigration, but it creates another problem of millions of unemployed illegals and their families. Would they go back to Mexico?
It's a part of the solution, certainly, but I still think Step One is simplifying the process of gaining citizenship.
I like her idea, but it'll never happen. For those in power, it's better policy to make felons out of 10 Mexican day laborers rather than the one wealthy socialite who hired them to work on her yard.
a fence will not work, no ifs, ands or buts... the only thing it would accomplish is giving more jobs to people the fence was supposed to keep out...
, 99.9% of people sneaking in only want a job whereas 99.9% of katrina victims only wanted and still want a handout... maybe they are the people who should be deported someplace...
A fence doesn't work if the only goal is to keep the brown people out.
A fence works in conjunction with big wide gates that say "LEGAL ENTRY FOR WORKERS HERE." Oops, sorry, "LA ENTRADA LEGAL PARA LOS TRABAJADORES AQUI."
Make it easier for laborers to come here legitimately, in numbers that meet our demand for labor.
That's the answer which has made sense all along.
But that will never happen in this political landscape. There are too many people that just want to keep out "non-assimilating" immigrants, where the definition of "assimilating" can be adjusted however necessary so that it becomes impossible for non-Anglos to do it.
Human nature is what it is. Back in the 1800s, I'm sure "Americans" (the ones that were born here) felt the same way about the Irish, Polish, German, Italian, etc immigrants as xray feels about the Mexican, even though those people were "white".
Hate has been around for a while.
EXACTLY.
The immigrant groups became "white" over time as intermarriage left its mark.
You really do have a problem with your reading comprehension, don't you.
I have nothing against Mexicans. Just illegals. By the way, aren't you
the one who proclaims to be such a Christian? Judge not, that you may
be judged.
You know ES, you seemed to have a real problem with racial issues. Maybe
you should take a good look at yourself sometime.
Yeah!!! Strike Baby!
No Fence is gonna keep Pepe out. That can swim
Yeah, I must seem like a real race traitor to folks like you. Should I be expecting a burning cross on my lawn?
http://www.immigrantsolidarity.org/
On May 1, we are calling No Work, No School, No Sales, and No Buying, and also to have rallies around symbols of economic trade in your areas (stock exchanges, anti-immigrant corporations, etc.) to protest the anti-immigrant movements across the country.
On May 1, we will wear "white" a T-Shirt and/or white arm bands, we can paint and write our political demands (and creative arts) at the T-shirt go to rally, protest, strike, vigil, work or school--we will have a ocean of white T-shirts with our political demands from east coast to west coast, at the street, work place, school, bus station & store... and our voice will be LOUD AND CLEAR AND CANNOT BE SILENT FOR EVER!
We will settle for nothing less than full amnesty and dignity for the millions of undo ented workers presently in the U.S. We believe that increased enforcement is a step in the wrong direction and will only serve to facilitate more tragedies along the Mexican-U.S. border in terms of deaths and family separation.
cool. Iwon't buy that day. but i don't know about strikin. what if i get fired?
off
i hope you do.
To those you don't snap to what smeagol and I are talking about, back in the 19th century, only Anglo-Saxon Protestants were considered truly "white." It was argued that Celtic immigrants were racially inferior, and never truly would be able to immigrate into American society.
This at ude came from Britain. There was a fairly widespread belief that the Slavic, Celtic, and Latin peoples were inferior to the Germanic, Frankish, and Nordic peoples.
Yet even German immigrants suffered exploitation and discrimination, because they spoke a foreign language, and had unfamiliar customs.
Hola amigo!
If I'm out of a job I might be forced to marry your fat sister
Question: why has the big Communist holiday of May Day been selected for this demonstration? Why not, say, May 5?
Are you sure you really understand who is organizing this? The Communist group A.N.S.W.E.R. frequently has their tentacles around movements like this.
Just be careful you who are dealing with. The U.S. populace is not unsympathetic to the immigrant plight, but if starts aligning itself with anti-American leftists, the mood could change.
Can I buy Mexican beer on May 1? Cuz if I'm taking the day off, I might as well drink some beer.
No American products brother.
Last edited by SA210; 04-24-2006 at 11:03 AM.
yeah its a good question why May 1 was selected. But beleive me all the organizers have been telling the people to wear white, bring american flags and act peacefully and orderly. And the whole purpose of this is to stop those new laws and support immigrants rights. so don't worry
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