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OH sorry. I wonder if anyone still thinks it wasn't a hate crime?
The specifics weren't known until after he posted that...but now that we know more, I definitely agree. Those are some very disturbed individuals.
OH sorry. I wonder if anyone still thinks it wasn't a hate crime?
One would have to be willfully obtuse at this point.
dems big werdz. i dunno dem. hahaha j/k dude
For me, it NEVER crossed my mind that the whole thing was just about him kissing the 12 year old girl. I really don't see how anyone could see it that way, but that is just me.
Yeah I dont think that they would really react that way if a 16 year old tried to kiss their 12 year old daughter. Maybe a punch or two and some good shots to the kidneys but not beating a guy to near death and then sodomizing with a steel pipe. I want to reiterate that the dudes KICKED the pipe in.
I have a daughter who falls squarely in this age group, so I've been through this. A lot more girls than most of you realize are going out with older boys. Girls go through puberty much younger these days. Saying 12 year olds are prepubescent is probably a not very accurate anymore. My doctor says the average age for the onset of puberty has gone down quite significantly. When my daughter was 12 she didn't look 12. More like 14-15. Now that she's 14 nobody believes she's only in eighth grade. They usually think she's a junior or senior.
She liked a boy earlier this year right before her 14th birthday. He was 15 and was going to be turning 16 in June. So in my mind I kept seeing my then 13 year old daughter with an almost 16 year old boy (YIKES). But in reality they are only 1 year and 9 months apart in age. While I think 12 and 16 are probably a bit far apart, I do believe you have to look at it on a case by case basis. You want to protect your child's innocence as long as possible.
Also someone mentioned something about 12 year olds being in 6th grade. A lot of them are in 7th.
My whole life is wrapped around things that happen to little girls that age...because I have one. Naturally that's going to be the first thing that captures my attention. I also am not inclined to throw out the race card anytime a minority is involved in anything and everything bad. People have shown over and over that they can be sadistic and twisted for no reason whatsoever...so I'm not going to jump to any conclusions until I hear the whole story. A journalist's speculation or what an officer assumed isn't the whole story. Finding out that they are skin-head, neo-Nazi, white supremists from people that actually know them is a really good part of the whole story...but that wasn't known until later.
And it's not just you that has issues dealing with people that have different thought processes.
And I'd like to reiterate that that little factoid wasn't known from just the original article.
what the ? suddenly this tragedy turned into a discussion of whether its 'right' or not for a 11th grader to try to kiss a 7th grader? big ing deal, 4 ing years. the guys is about to ing die. holy , you gotta be ting me. i hope if this were your brother or cousin or family member maybe you wouldnt take getting a pole kicked in their ass so lightly cause of the 4 year age gap. i personally know people in relationships that have 6-8 year differences in age.. big ing deal. he is a teen, not a 30 year old man feeling up a ing 10 year old. good ing lord.
hmm... you might want to take a chill pill my friend
what the ? suddenly this tragedy turned into a discussion of whether its 'right' or not for a 11th grader to try to kiss a 7th grader? big ing deal, 4 ing years. the guys is about to ing die. holy , you gotta be ting me. i hope if this were your brother or cousin or family member maybe you wouldnt take getting a pole kicked in their ass so lightly cause of the 4 year age gap. i personally know people in relationships that have 6-8 year differences in age.. big ing deal. he is a teen, not a 30 year old man feeling up a ing 10 year old. good ing lord.
Spoken like a true dumbass.
really, why cause you dont agree? stfu. your overstated wrong opinion makes no sense.
when i brought up the age difference i was just wondering if it struck anyone else when they read the story. i think it struck me because some of my limited experience with situations like this. it's frustrating seeing pregnant 13 year old girls from high school kids who don't care about them and on top of that to hear other high school guys who talk about getting with younger girls because it is easy to influence them. when i read 12 year old i was picturing a 6th grader because they are often in the 11-12 range or older and a good percentage turn 13 early in 7th grade and i guess it bothered me. i'm glad to hear that a lot of you think that my experiences are not quite the norm, but i do know often times that some of these situations can be immorale and if i was a parent i might be a little concerned. manumania, it seems you freaked on me for a bit, but i wasn't trying to condemn all situations with this age difference (it sounds like you and obi had good experiences) and my bad leading you to believe that all guys need to get their ass whipped for getting with this young of a girl being that age. it's just the guys who i've come across, going through high school and working with kids, that i wouldn't mind if they got roughed up a little based on what they say are their intentions. sorry for turning the topic of this thread a bit away from the sick pigs and i promise i'll get back to lurking. you guys do entertain me when i have five or so minutes to waste. appreciate that.
Where in the world do you get that anyone is trying to justify what those boys did...whatever the reason? You didn't read much of the conversation, did you? Because you totally missed it.
Last edited by SpursWoman; 04-28-2006 at 08:40 PM.
OMG! Those boys shouldn't get the death penalty even though they deserve it. Two wrongs don't make a right plus they won't suffer if they die quickly, leave them in jail the rest of their pathetic ass lives!
see what happened?
life could be worse.
enjoy.
OK! I GET THE POINT!!
chill out.
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