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    Forget convention. For every jumper that Evans doesn't take he's making up for it with an offensive board, setting a pick or playing defense against whatever open court team with their trick lineup. How many le teams was Rodman a part of?

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    rodman was a much better player than evans will ever be.

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    Evans at less than half (~$2.0-$2.5) the MLE is worth the risk, Evans at the full MLE isn't. He made less than $1 million last season.

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    Evans at less than half (~$2.0-$2.5) the MLE is worth the risk, Evans at the full MLE isn't. He made less than $1 million last season.
    He made less than a million because he didn't want to stay in Seattle. They offered him 2years/$10M but he turned it down.

    However no other team made him ANY offer at all.

    I think he'll probably get something like $3M+/year from someone.

    I wouldn't pay him full MLE either.

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    Sign him up.

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    rodman was a much better player than evans will ever be.
    On the other hand, Evans may not always get along with folks, but he isn't completely bat .

    So he's got that going for him. Which is nice.

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    sign him up.

    http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/locke/268836_locke03.html

    Locked on Sports: Evans' shady tricks exposed

    By DAVID LOCKE
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    The shot went up and they battled for the rebound, with the Clippers' Chris Kaman reaching up for the ball and Denver's Reggie Evans reaching low for Kaman's ....

    The classless move by Evans was caught on video for the whole basketball world to see. If anyone in the NBA was surprised, they weren't paying attention to the "Collector" and his career.

    From Kevin Garnett to Brian Scalabrine, players in the visitors' locker room at KeyArena sang this tune for all of the years Evans was a Sonic.

    Evans' tactics push the limit on a nightly basis. His repertoire is vast -- grabbing a jock strap in order to pull it tight and then snap it, as well as nicely timing pinches to prevent a player from going for a rebound.

    Evans has taken a valid part of the basketball world, the tricks of the trade, and pushed it beyond its limits.

    Most of the greats had their own tricks.

    Early in a game, whenever John Stockton was being run into a pick, he would try to drive his knee into the thigh of the big man trying to screen him. The pick never seemed to be set with the same authority the rest of the night.

    Reggie Miller was notorious for his tricks, whether letting his elbows fly in every direction when running off picks, or throwing his feet forward on a jump shot, putting the defender in jeopardy of having his voice increase a few octaves.

    Isiah Thomas was a tripper. When defending, he would take a jab step, and then when the offensive player went by, he would trip him to force a turnover.



    The tricks exist throughout a game. Jake Voskuhl is known for grabbing players' shorts while running in transition.
    Before the hand-check rule, defenders would grab a player on the hip by his waistband, thus holding him still while reaching around to steal the ball. Derek Harper used that trick on Nate McMillan on the opening two plays of McMillan's first playoff game.

    Bruce Bowen slides his feet underneath the shooter, putting them in peril when they land.

    Charles Oakley was notorious for fouling after the whistle had already blown.

    It is the underworld of the game, and Evans took it even further against the Clippers and Kaman.

    Truly, Evans missed. He is the inaugurator of the wedgie into the NBA. The man playing Evans is constantly forced to readjust his arrangement throughout the game.

    As one NBA person said, "He just grabs their shorts and pulls it up their (rear end). I am not sure what it does other than completely (tick) the guy off."

    That is Evans' game. He is in there to infuriate the opponent. Frankly, he is great at it.

    Evans didn't enter the league like this. Early in his career, the Sonics were playing the New York Knicks and Kurt Thomas. Evans was stymied the whole night by Thomas' tricks.

    After that, Evans started using his own tricks -- grabbing, pinching, holding. Whatever was necessary. When a defender was rotating to get to the shooter, Evans would grab hold of him for the split second needed either for the shot to get off or the ball handler to make his way to the basket.

    The haranguing from Sonics opponents last season was constant. It became the loudest from the San Antonio Spurs in the playoffs. Most people thought it was about the play of Danny Fortson. Wrong. Evans was the one drawing the ire.

    The propensity to flop makes Evans more infuriating. After he pulls every trick, including those well across the line, he flops the minute the opponent retaliates.

    There is a real art to this. The key is Evans' ability to never give up that he is pulling off a charade during a game.

    The problem with Evans in Seattle was that the tricks never ended. His own teammates at practices were not spared. On more than one occasion, Vladimir Radmanovic was the victim of Evans antics and completely blew his lid.

    Evans' antics on Saturday night fit the mold of making your opponent wonder what insane thing he might do next. No differently than how opponents felt playing Bill Laimbeer, Dennis Rodman or Rick Mahorn.

    However, as one longtime NBA person said, "It was the most low-rent thing I have ever seen in over 40 years of basketball."

    Evans will eternally be labeled with that stigma. The spotlight will be on his antics. When the next Garnett or Scalabrine claims Evans didn't go after the basketball on the rebound, the claim will be believed.

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    The Spurs need a couple dirty players.

    All nice won the Spurs this year was an early vacation.

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    "couple dirty players."

    I'd much rather hustling the boards, blocking out, defending, cutting off the pasing lanes, playing hard all around.

    Dirt doesn't buy us anything.

    Which top teams and players are really intimidated in any noticeable way by dirty play?

    Which top/playoff teams this season are at an advantage vs Spurs because they have dirty players and we don't?

    Ron and Bonzi didn't play us dirty, just played us hard.
    Manu wasn't intimidated by Ron's elbow to the head.

    Do you really want a Juwan-Howard-on-DA type of dirt by the Spurs?
    Now THAT was effective dirt, costing us our starting PG for playoffs.

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    Truly, Evans missed. He is the inaugurator of the wedgie into the NBA. The man playing Evans is constantly forced to readjust his arrangement throughout the game.

    As one NBA person said, "He just grabs their shorts and pulls it up their (rear end). I am not sure what it does other than completely (tick) the guy off."

    That is Evans' game. He is in there to infuriate the opponent. Frankly, he is great at it.


    We totally need to add wedgie-man to our team.

    I'm pretty sure I'm not even kidding.

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    The offseason is officially here. timvp is pushing out a wacky idea.
    Wacky like a fox.

    Last year, I pushed a trade that would have allowed the Spurs to survive Dirk Nowitzki and small ball. A lot of Spurs fans thought I was crazy.

    Now I'm planning a fishing trip in May.


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    Surprised I didn't argue for a few pages in this thread.

    A couple of nice chestnuts in there:
    Mohammed is going to cost a lot to re-sign. I don't think Spurs fan understand how much he'll be to lockup. If Erick Dampier's contract is north of $70M, Mohammed's price isn't going to be too far behind when it becomes obvious that Mohammed is the better player.
    He is short.

    He has short arms.

    He is slow.

    He isn't a good rebounder.

    He can't block shots.


    That's not called hate...that's called reality.
    You can guess who is being talked about.

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    I'm starting to "warm up" to this idea too. I'm sick of seeing the Spurs getting "punked" on the glass. They lost many close games during the regular season and the playoffs because they simply couldn't get stops by controlling defensive rebounds. It's hard to win a championship when your opponent outrebounds you in every game.

    Furthermore, they need more offensive rebounds of their own to offset both their notoriously poor FT shooting and lost possessions resulting from turnovers.

    Because of the type of team the Mavs have, I knew that their bigs would hit the glass hard. I watched them outrebound opponents all season. Avery often preached the importance of "winning the rebounding battle" to his team and they took heed. Now, they're gunning for a championship.

    During the first two championship runs, the Spurs were successful, in part, because they had 2 solid rebounders (Duncan and Robinson), with bench help from Malik. Nazr was often brilliant at controlling the offensive glass, but his limitations are well-do ented.

    As has been mentioned here, Duncan is the Spurs lone premier rebounder. He needs help. It's vital the Spurs make a move to shore up their pitiful rebounding. Evans would provide much needed muscle and interior defense that is sorely lacking.

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    I've said we need an enforcer.

    I think Evans could fill that role as well, along with our rebounding needs.

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    I've said we need an enforcer.

    I think Evans could fill that role as well, along with our rebounding needs.
    hes an enforcer but he also likes grabbing balls for fun.

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    hes an enforcer but he also likes grabbing balls for fun.
    This is true.

    But he wasn't suspended, so maybe he likes tugging...not grabbing.

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    hes an enforcer but he also likes grabbing balls for fun.
    Also, you need that.

    You need to have that one crazy mother er on your team. Like Anthony Mason was. Nobody ed with him. , I think even the refs were afraid of him.

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    Also, you need that.

    You need to have that one crazy mother er on your team. Like Anthony Mason was. Nobody ed with him. , I think even the refs were afraid of him.
    Anthony Mason and Charles Oakley were of the craziest mutha's and thats cause they were on the same team!!! Nobody ed with them.

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    Also, you need that.

    You need to have that one crazy mother er on your team. Like Anthony Mason was. Nobody ed with him. , I think even the refs were afraid of him.
    Anthony Mason and Charles Oakley were 2 of the craziest mutha's and thats cause they were on the same team!!! Nobody ed with them.

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    Also, you need that.

    You need to have that one crazy mother er on your team. Like Anthony Mason was. Nobody ed with him. , I think even the refs were afraid of him.
    the kings sure as have that.

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    I cannot grok its fullnes leemajors's Avatar
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    hes an enforcer but he also likes grabbing balls for fun.
    flopper's aren't enforcers. when the going gets tough evans hits the ground, or takes cheap shots at people. fortson was the "enforcer" on that team.

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    Forget Evans! Get Odom. Trade Trade Brent Barry, Fabricio Oberto, and Rasho Nesterovic to the Lakers for Odom and maybe a draft pick. Then sign Scola and Javtokas to fill in for them. Then sign either Penny Hardaway, Jim Jackson, or Aaron McKie. That'll be the !
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    Forget Evans! Get Odom. Trade Trade Brent Barry, Fabricio Oberto, and Rasho Nesterovic to the Lakers for Odom and maybe a draft pick. Then sign Scola and Javtokas to fill in for them. Then sign either Penny Hardaway, Jim Jackson, or Aaron McKie. That'll be the !

    Barry to the Lakers would make him a Spurs killer... be careful what you wish for...

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    Barry to the Lakers would make him a Spurs killer... be careful what you wish for...
    he had it coming to him so if he is traded he shouldn't be surprised. he was a badass backup for the sonics he was like the 2004 manu when he backed up hedo. now he is just a dud.

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    Forget Evans! Get Odom. Trade Trade Brent Barry, Fabricio Oberto, and Rasho Nesterovic to the Lakers for Odom and maybe a draft pick. Then sign Scola and Javtokas to fill in for them. Then sign either Penny Hardaway, Jim Jackson, or Aaron McKie. That'll be the !
    Yeah why don't the Spurs just trade Rasho for LeBron while you're at it.


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