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that's what i thought. if they don't get one they could still sign him. the grecian contract signing seemed a bit hasty, but someone said he could back out within 7 days, which is also the matching period.
please Nuggets, match the offer for Elson
Elson wll only be truly appreciated in Denver
that's what i thought. if they don't get one they could still sign him. the grecian contract signing seemed a bit hasty, but someone said he could back out within 7 days, which is also the matching period.
And people actually told me I had nothing to worry about..
Spurs don't double team a center that often and when they do, it's with light pressure from the guards/forward to push him to the weak side. Then they back off.
Point is foul trouble is going to happen even with team defense. With the foul trouble, the lack of depth for the spurs at that position will show. If Ian is ready to go and isn't sucking, there's a potential backup. Free Kiwi. Every game, I've seen him play, he hasn't hurt the team. Those games weren't all GARBAGE time game, but some where he actually had an impact. Energy. Rebouding. Jump-shooting. Spurs should give him a run.
If I'm Robertas, I tell the Spurs to screw off. Just play in Greece for a team that wants you.
you have no idea what he was told, or what happened.
From the sound of that article it sounded like the reason we made offers to both Butler and Elson was that we couldn't reach an agreement with Robertas. I'm not sure how we are all of a sudden going to make it work just because one of these "centers" doesn't sign.
Neither do you. If I'm RJ I still play for the team that wants me and needs me to play for them, not for the one where I'm a last resort.
For all we know, the deal fell apart because he wanted 4 years, $4M a year.
Then in that case you're a head for saying you to the team that payed for your ing surgery after your crash.
He has to stay at their beck and call? He has a career, they didn't sign him, so what's wrong with signing with another team?
Probably, RJ agent has shown to the spurs the Greek team offer...and that wasn't comparable to what the spurs thought to offer!
RJ was sees like the best Euro center....it was logical that, being a free agent, he would have received very good offers...I alrady said that an offer less than three millions would have been an absolute steal, looking at the market value!
Imho, it was time to take a risk and give him a more than fair contract...because he was, probably, more than worth of it (and the same for Scola, next year).
The only thing that I see in Butler more than RJ is that he's younger and probably willing to improve...but he's inexperienced and doesn't heve the phisical skills of RJ.
Elson Is older, has a good athletic specimen, but nothing comparable with the chances that RJ brings regarding rebounding and bloking shots...
We'll see...I hope I'm totally wrong!
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You can pretty much guarantee that he didn't get that overseason. We will know how cheap the Spurs were when we get the specifics on his current contract. Whathever it is, the Spurs were either not willing to match it or they thought there were better alternatives.
I don't see any scenario in which the Knicks won't match the Butler signing. Isaiah likes the kid and will do whatever it takes in his only season as coach to make sure he has Butler on the team. He needs all the help he can get and Butler should still come cheap. Then again, if Thomas held true to form he would not match Butlers offer as Thomas has a history of making the wrong choice. Let's hope he hasn't run out of stupid decisions. My bet is that NY matches the offer.
Rasho actually played them 1-1 and always held his own. You need height on those guys.
I still think 2.5 is not enough to get Butler, hopefully I'm wrong.
A few things to know about the Javtokas situation.
1. He was not as all-fired desperate to come to the NBA as people thought.
2. He had offers from European teams already sitting there in case he decided to stay in Europe.
3. The story portrays this as a decision by the Spurs- not him- to offer those two offer sheets to other players- over signing him.
4. He is already practicing with his NT without the safety of a contract. He does not want to wait any longer.
5. I tried to tell people it wasn't a done deal.
6. Spurs reputation has taken a hit with players in Europe.
Its easy for you to sit there and talk. You don't know how much they offered and for that matter how much the Euro team offered. If its more than a mil a yr, thats alot of money for RJ. Its not like he's made his money and a couple of mil isn't going to hurt him.
you're right, i don't. thats' exactly why i'm not making assumptions about what did happen.
No Javtokas = FO continuing their stupidity since playing small ball
Not if you're anxious to see if you can compete with the best basketball players in the world.
Any chance Sean Marks will get some playing time with us now?
Sean won't be back. With these three players- if the two go unmatched- the Spurs are at 14 contracts and 6 big men: Duncan, Horry, Oberto, Elson, Butler, Bonner. No more room for the Kiwi. Basically- position wise- you have replaced Rasho, Nazr, and Sean with Elson, Butler and Bonner-- replaced NVE with Vaughn and Melvin Sanders with Williams. The Spurs won't spend any more money and will be looking for trades with Barry or Williams.
I'm going to assume that the brief video clips we've seen of Javtokas didn't offset a lack of NBA skills discerned by better judges of basketball talent than all of us.
Remember, earlier this summer most of the forum talk was about how Javtokas simply wasn't ready. How did he become the savior all of a sudden?
Likewise, remember Oberto was supposed to have been the best Euro center-and a sure lock for lots of playing time on the Spurs-before he actually came over and was matched up against NBA talent.
First off, the most important news is that the Spurs have a shot at Jackie Butler. If they get him, that'd be a GREAT signing. He's by far the best available bigman. By far.
Elson, of course, is a signing I don't understand. But I can live with it if they can also get Butler. Get both of them and it works.
Javtokas coming is a little bit of a bummer, but this guy has been a before earlier in the offseason. When the Spurs still had Rasho and Nazr, he didn't want to come because he thought there wouldn't be enough playing time. Now the Spurs are signing Elson so he doesn't think there's playing time? This guy is a pansy.
If Javtokas doesn't think he can beat out Elson and a 21-year-old center, the Spurs don't need him.
Have fun in Greece.
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