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    Why not sign Britton Johnsen, star of our Summer Leagues 2005, then?
    If the guy really has no game, I expect things will sort themselves out. As others have said, surely his whole contract isn't guaranteed.

    If our scouts think there's a reason to take a flyer on him, I'm certainly willing to wait and see.

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    The faith built up after 3 rings is gone.

    Unreal.
    That's what happens when you hit the fans over the head with small ball and follow it up by low balling every potential FA acquisition before settling on obscure scrub Euros.

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    Rich Melzer was signed as the small forward-of-the-future prototype. They expect to show him around to all the scouts as what to look for but - you know - someone who can play basketball. He's something of a showroom model.

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    Stiff ankle, maybe. Sprained it on Nowitzki's foot in the World Basketball Championships in Indianapolis. One of the stories that season was how he felt so little part of the team until later in the year. Kevin Willis was instrumental in breaking him out of his s .

    Let me know if any of that rings a bell.
    The world championships were 3 years after the spurs drafted ginobili. What i think TPark is saying is that no one knew jack squat about ginobili after we drafted him because he wasn't even putting up big numbers in europe yet. I wouldn't go as far as saying he was a stiff, but it wasn't until his mvp's in '01 that we really started to watch.

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    Gotcha. Taking fliers on Ginobili and Giricek was pretty smart - they both turned out to be at least career NBAers. Why they couldn't move Scola's rights and sign Javtokas will always be a mystery to me. In the first case, they likely overvalued the rights and in the latter, they likely were too conservative (going for Elson).

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    This just gets better every day

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    And by no means do I expect Melzer to turn out like ginobili or giricek. But I have no problems giving him Sanders time of 16gms and 7mpg. Most of that is garbage time anyways.

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    Let me get this straight . . . the Spurs signed this guy?


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    As far as we can tell.

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    The world championships were 3 years after the spurs drafted ginobili. What i think TPark is saying is that no one knew jack squat about ginobili after we drafted him because he wasn't even putting up big numbers in europe yet. I wouldn't go as far as saying he was a stiff, but it wasn't until his mvp's in '01 that we really started to watch.
    Exactly, put the guy in a championship team position and the guy might turn into something great. People were making the same "who the is this guy and why did we draft him" remarks when we got ginobili. NOW look at him...

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    dammit to , Mr.Body beat me to the Belzer line

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    but you got the pic

    and nobody noticed it without it...

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    Exactly, put the guy in a championship team position and the guy might turn into something great. People were making the same "who the is this guy and why did we draft him" remarks when we got ginobili. NOW look at him...
    The Ginobili comparison works if you're talking about drafting a undeveloped kid and waiting a few years, like Mahmini.

    It doesn't work for a 26-year-old.

    The mere notion that you people are arguing that some guy signed for the purpose of being a training camp scrub somehow is going to don the Silver and Black and magically become a great player makes me wish I could reach through the computer screen and slap you.

    When you have to resort to this degree of delusion to convince yourself that thinks are going to be OK, you're risking mental illness.

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    Richard Belzer is a potential Bowen --- when he's 31. He has tons of work to do, but it took Bowen tons of work to get where he is. Lots of frequent flier miles and strange restaurants in foreign cities. If anything, the Spurs are planting a seed, showing him the Tao, trading Zen Koans, and hoping he works out sooner rather than later. But it won't happen yet.

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    YEAH!!!!



    Now that's what I'm talking about!! A long three!!! Way to pull the f'ing trigger Pop. I told you peeps the front office wasn't through.

    Take that, Violent Kitten....you !!!!
    BWAHAHAHAHA!!!

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    Richard Belzer is a potential Bowen --- when he's 31. He has tons of work to do, but it took Bowen tons of work to get where he is. Lots of frequent flier miles and strange restaurants in foreign cities. If anything, the Spurs are planting a seed, showing him the Tao, trading Zen Koans, and hoping he works out sooner rather than later. But it won't happen yet.
    That's encouraging... I'm glad the Spurs have found a guy who with several years of work might become an NBA role player as a long 3 when Duncan is 36 years old.

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    Just got his scouting report from IMDB.com:

    Good locker room guy who is known as a joker. He is 61, so while younger than Horry, he doesn't address the Spurs needs to get younger. There are also some conditioning concerns. Has been playing the same character for some time now, so he's clearly a guy who can settle into his role and be quite happy. Does not have an NBA body, but has been working with Ice T for some time now and has probably picked up some pointers on being a G, so suckas wouldn't want to wif him in da paint. Also, is cousin of Henry Winkler, so Eva wouldn't be the only star power on the Spurs sideline anymore.

    All in all I say this is a quality pick up.

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    Easy there stout. I think if you reread the posts. I never compared him to ginobili or any young prodigy. What I said is that we often know very little about the overseas guys and don't know what to expect, like ginobili or giricek. I also said that I am sure this guy can fill the crap minutes that Sanders had this last year. That is all I expect and all that we need right now in that role. If he turns out to be more then great.

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    That's encouraging... I'm glad the Spurs have found a guy who with several years of work might become an NBA role player as a long 3 when Duncan is 36 years old.
    Well, it's all based on hopes he's non-guaranteed. He has some nice tools, so maybe it doesn't take that long. To me, his presence is entirely negligable. If he takes Sanders' spot, I won't cry.

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    Easy there stout. I think if you reread the posts. I never compared him to ginobili or any young prodigy. What I said is that we often know very little about the overseas guys and don't know what to expect, like ginobili or giricek. I also said that I am sure this guy can fill the crap minutes that Sanders had this last year. That is all I expect and all that we need right now in that role. If he turns out to be more then great.
    Why exactly should anybody be applauding the front office for acquiring a guy to fill an IR slot?

    Hey, yeah, we need a starting center, a backup center, and somebody to play significant minutes backing up both forward spots, but forget that, we've got the IR fodder covered! Yippee! Yay front office!

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    Let me get this straight . . . the Spurs signed this guy?

    TURN YOUR VOLUME ALL THE WAY UP FOR THIS. IT'S MORE DRAMATIC.

    THE DRAMA CONTINUES.....

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    Stout, never fear. I'm pretty damn sure we're trading Brent Barry and an unconditional 1st rounder for Rasual Butler.

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    Why exactly should anybody be applauding the front office for acquiring a guy to fill an IR slot?

    Hey, yeah, we need a starting center, a backup center, and somebody to play significant minutes backing up both forward spots, but forget that, we've got the IR fodder covered! Yippee! Yay front office!
    He is this year's Sean Marks. Didn't we give him a couple Mil to sit around?

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    Why exactly should anybody be applauding the front office for acquiring a guy to fill an IR slot?

    Hey, yeah, we need a starting center, a backup center, and somebody to play significant minutes backing up both forward spots, but forget that, we've got the IR fodder covered! Yippee! Yay front office!
    No one is applauding it, but why is it a disaster to sign someone to the IR fodder.

    As far as I remember Finley and Barry are backing up the 2 & 3. Bonner & Horry have the 4 covered and Williams can play either the 3 or 4. Both sheets won't be signed and maybe neither, so we pull in at least one center if not two. And if we do lose out on butler and elson, then we will throw most of our mle at someone like wright or we will make a trade. Settle down a bit. This was a minor transaction that doesn't count against the cap. He won't be our savior but he won't cost us the season.

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    Stout, never fear. I'm pretty damn sure we're trading Brent Barry and an unconditional 1st rounder for Rasual Butler.
    Oh be still my beating heart.

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