Knicks decline to match Spurs' offer to Butler

[yavozerb]

I think it says alot about the kid also that he survived his stay in the big apple with no negative issues and was one of the few who upped their stock playing on that crappy team!!

[Mr. Body]

Maybe he can live with Duncan for a while. Ask Amy if she minds. He can copy Tim's every move. Holding his cereal spoon exactly the same way, rolling the D&D dice exactly the same way, etc.

[SenorSpur]

Now the question is whether the Spurs can go out and find a Derrick McKey type player to help against the quicker teams in the league.

Viva Woods or Ariza

[tlongII]

I know he was undrafted in the NBA and played in the CBA. He was drafted in the 2005 AAPBL Draft but then the league went bankrupt.

Early entry candidate out of high school in 2004 NBA Draft, but went undrafted. . .Signed by Knicks as a free agent on Feb 27, 2005

Not my words...

[Supergirl]

Umm.. yes he is between them. Figure out the stats per 40 or per min or whatever you want to do. Nazr is much better than Jackie Butler. Rasho is worse.

How do you figure Nazr is better? You mean just at rebounding?
Because anyone who makes everyone cringe when he touches the ball, because he's so prone to turnovers can't really be "better" can he?

[Spurologist]

Game. Set. Match.

or unmatch

some good news

[Kori Ellis]

Not my words...

I don't understand what you are arguing with me.

[boutons_]

now, nuggs have to match, and we can go forward.

[sa_butta]

Maybe he can live with Duncan for a while. Ask Amy if she minds. He can copy Tim's every move. Holding his cereal spoon exactly the same way, rolling the D&D dice exactly the same way, etc.

They could meet up at HEB when he gets here for some fully cooked chicken.

[timvp]

Viva Woods or Ariza

I'd take Woods in a second.

Their only chance at Ariza would be if Elson is matched and the Spurs throw $3M/year at him for at least four years.

[weebo]

Who should they have gotten?

Well there is where the problem lies. They get rid of their two centers without having signed any beforehand. That's how they ed this one up. I don't necessarily disagree with this signing but some of you are acting like his the next savior. Get over it. He is here because there was nothing else the FO could do. At best he is plan D.

[Kori Ellis]

How do you figure Nazr is better? You mean just at rebounding?
Because anyone who makes everyone cringe when he touches the ball, because he's so prone to turnovers can't really be "better" can he?

We were only talking about rebounding. I guess you didn't read the whole conversation.

[sa_butta]

Well there is where the problem lies. They get rid of their two centers without having signed any beforehand. That's how they ed this one up. I don't necessarily disagree with this signing but some of you are acting like his the next savior. Get over it. He is here because there was nothing else the FO could do. At best he is plan D.

Plan D is going to be a 250+lb body clogging the lane and grabbing some boards for us. He is not by any means a superstar, but I think everyone agrees he along with another big body can fill the gap where Nazr and Rasho were.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Now Elson needs to get matched, and we can go tender an offer to Ariza. Sign Lo Wright for the LLE, and call it an offseason.

[DaSpurs#1]

i may be late to read this thread but this still deserves a
WOOT!!!

[tlongII]

I don't understand what you are arguing with me.

Never mind.

[texasqb2]

Two things........

1) I don't think I have ever seen more of Elson than the highlights lately, but I think he may be a candidate to throw out on Dirk....I think that is why we are so high on him, but who knows
2) The Knicks are just a joke. I just keep remembering them justifying the Nazr for Malik trade by saying Nazr wasn't a true 5. Malik has to be one of their biggest mistakes and that's saying something lately.

[strangeweather]

Now Elson needs to get matched, and we can go tender an offer to Ariza. Sign Lo Wright for the LLE, and call it an offseason.

That would be brilliant, if it worked. Would Wright really sign for the LLE?

[Kori Ellis]

Now Elson needs to get matched, and we can go tender an offer to Ariza. Sign Lo Wright for the LLE, and call it an offseason.

I don't think they plan on using the LLE, but maybe he'll come for the minimum if they use the rest of the MLE on something else.

[beirmeistr]

Next step is for Elson to get matched. Heck, I'd rather the Spurs got Scot Pollard. Even Jake Voskuhl has shown to be a player who won't play his worst basketball in the playoffs.

Use the Elson money to get a Long Three.

Yea, let's go after that old hippie, Scot Pollard. He can run the floor pretty good and pretend to guard the paint.

[NuGGeTs-FaN]

[juncan]

good news ^ ^

btw. how about this guy's wingspan?

[phxspurfan]

Agent: Songaila signs five-year, $23M deal with Wizards


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[spursmode]

Well there is where the problem lies. They get rid of their two centers without having signed any beforehand. That's how they ed this one up. I don't necessarily disagree with this signing but some of you are acting like his the next savior. Get over it. He is here because there was nothing else the FO could do. At best he is plan D.

I totally agree. Can he help? Maybe, but let's stop acting like he is some badass player. I've read posts stating that he has "massive upside" or that he is a really good player. I've yet to have anyone come back and state what they are basing this on. Fact: Undrafted, NBA numbers pretty unimpressive, slow, not that tall for his position. Fact: We were desperate because of the situation we put ourselves in.

[sprrs]

We were only talking about rebounding. I guess you didn't read the whole conversation.

How many of those .299 rpm were offensive rebounds? Nazr was much better at pulling offensive rebounds than defensive rebounds. Defensive rebounds were one of our major problems.