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  1. #151
    If you can't slam with the best then jam with the rest sabar's Avatar
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    If the mavs won this year's finals, that would have been so embarassing. No team that chokes on such epic proportions should EVER hold a le. No team that has star players with awesome stretches of 20% FG shooting in key moments should have a ring.

    They choked. They choked big time and deserved to lose. If the Dallas Chokers won the 2006 championship, that would have been the biggest fluke ever. An asterick year.

  2. #152
    adolis is altuve’s father monosylab1k's Avatar
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    ok, get over it. i've only seen one mav fan complain and his favorite team is the Hawks. the only Mav fans that are complaining are the ones that dont exist. Mavs had a 2-0 lead but the Heat kept fighting, and Mavs relaxed. its their fault.

    later
    didn't complain once, sir. i just noted that spurs fans want to complain about mavs fans complaining, while noting how many calls the Mavs supposedly got over the Spurs in that series, and one person in particular noted a fictional "FTA disparity" and so i showed that it was not true, and that if there were any series in which the refs screwed one team over, it was the Finals with the Mavs. either way, the refs aren't to blame for anything.

  3. #153
    adolis is altuve’s father monosylab1k's Avatar
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    If the mavs won this year's finals, that would have been so embarassing. No team that chokes on such epic proportions should EVER hold a le. No team that has star players with awesome stretches of 20% FG shooting in key moments should have a ring.

    They choked. They choked big time and deserved to lose. If the Dallas Chokers won the 2006 championship, that would have been the biggest fluke ever. An asterick year.
    ah, an asterisk year...kinda like what 1999 should have been?

  4. #154
    adolis is altuve’s father monosylab1k's Avatar
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    Well I'm calling you out now. No way the mavs beat the spurs in 2003 even with Dirk. Malik Rose was a key player for the spurs that year against Dirk. Also Raef got embarrassed by Duncan or whoever guarded him.
    Not to mention the Shawn Bradley effect. No team with Shawn Bradley could have ever won a le. Put him on the Jordan-era Bulls and they never win one. Heck, put him on IR and don't allow him in the building...if he's officially on a team's roster, that team will not win. The single greatest offseason move in Mavericks history was forcing Shawn Bradley into retirement.

  5. #155
    Get Refuel! FromWayDowntown's Avatar
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    ah, an asterisk year...kinda like what 1999 should have been?
    Ah! Now THERE'S a fresh take.

  6. #156
    I will not be mishandled MI21's Avatar
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    While you're at it, why don't you talk about what if Roy Tarpley had never done coke?

    Who? [/mavfan]

  7. #157
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    If you are calling jumpshots out of the paint shots, actually Mavs are not a jumpshoot prone team anymore. I did some research for someone else and results were interesting! We are more jumpshoot prone than you(65.4% of the time). And, now get this... San Antonio is more jumpshoot prone than Dallas at 60.3% of the time. Dallas comes in with the least amount of jumpshots of the three teams at 58.5% of the time. Seattle is the most jumpshoot prone at about 70%!


    source:http://www.hoopsstats.com/basketball...stats/06/5/pts
    Many Spurs fans need to read that. I was even surprised.

  8. #158
    adolis is altuve’s father monosylab1k's Avatar
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    Ah! Now THERE'S a fresh take.
    well if someone was gonna mention asterisks, how can you not mention that half-championship?

  9. #159
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    If you are calling jumpshots out of the paint shots, actually Mavs are not a jumpshoot prone team anymore. I did some research for someone else and results were interesting! We are more jumpshoot prone than you(65.4% of the time). And, now get this... San Antonio is more jumpshoot prone than Dallas at 60.3% of the time. Dallas comes in with the least amount of jumpshots of the three teams at 58.5% of the time. Seattle is the most jumpshoot prone at about 70%!
    source:http://www.hoopsstats.com/basketball...stats/06/5/pts
    Yeah, most Mav fans know this is the case now...but it takes awhile for the rest of the fans (that don't follow a team) to realize it. There's always a lag in perception of at least a year when a team changes up it's style a little bit. The coaches and players of other teams realize it though. I've never bothered wasting my time arguing this over here on the Spurs board just cuz I know most would refuse to believe it and it would turn into a dog-pile

  10. #160
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    Well, as far as I am concerned, they can do what they want with the information. The source is printed they can see for themselves. If you watch the Mavs for very long (like in the Finals, especially) you can see that they are not primarily a jumpshoot team anymore. Lots of stuff going on in the middle in the paint that I don't remember before. Maybe I am wrong about that and you have always been doing that, but I remember the days when all I heard about was Nowitzki and his three-pointers. After the season, a friend and I really began to wonder about whether the Mavs were really a primarily jumpshooting team, like everyone said. A little research showed not so much as you might think! I was surprised too that we did the most jumpshooting among the three teams. You just don't know until you really look!

  11. #161
    Oderint dum metuant freedom&justice's Avatar
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    the last few minutes of that mavs-heat game 3 was just bad officiating. Refs swallow the whistle on an obvious foul when Jason Terry was knocked down on a shot attempt but anyone who breathed on Wade was called for a foul. I stopped watching that dumb excuse for a finals series right then.
    I'm not saying it's a conspiracy, but bad calls seem to have a habit of occuring whenever Wade and the heat are involved. Like games 2, 3 and 4 of the EC finals for example. I mean how the does your whole starting unit be in foul trouble at the same time?????

  12. #162
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    Well, as far as I am concerned, they can do what they want with the information. The source is printed they can see for themselves. If you watch the Mavs for very long (like in the Finals, especially) you can see that they are not primarily a jumpshoot team anymore. Lots of stuff going on in the middle in the paint that I don't remember before. Maybe I am wrong about that and you have always been doing that, but I remember the days when all I heard about was Nowitzki and his three-pointers. After the season, a friend and I really began to wonder about whether the Mavs were really a primarily jumpshooting team, like everyone said. A little research showed not so much as you might think! I was surprised too that we did the most jumpshooting among the three teams. You just don't know until you really look!
    It's all Avery Johnson. He doesn't want them settling for jumpers like they always did in the past. In fact, during the regular season last year he would yank players when they settled for jumpers instead of being more aggressive and taking the ball to hoop (he yanked Dirk a few times for this). They still have a little ways to go but this coming season will only be their 2nd season under Avery so his system will continue to take hold.

  13. #163
    keep asking questions George Gervin's Afro's Avatar
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    the mavs have become a one on one basketball team. they ranked last or near the last in the NBA in assists. the spurs played to the mavs advantage and still almost beat dallas at their own game. miama proved that if you take away the drving lanes the mavs looked lost and confused..they reverted to loveable mavs of the past..a soft jump shooting team..

  14. #164
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    the mavs have become a one on one basketball team. they ranked last or near the last in the NBA in assists. the spurs played to the mavs advantage and still almost beat dallas at their own game. miama proved that if you take away the drving lanes the mavs looked lost and confused..they reverted to loveable mavs of the past..a soft jump shooting team..

  15. #165
    keep asking questions George Gervin's Afro's Avatar
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    i'm glad you accept your team is soft and choked..

  16. #166
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    i'm glad you accept your team is soft and choked..
    I don't, but it's pointless to argue Spur's fans about it. I'm weak and will try to from time to time though

    I like this board cuz there's so much activity, but it's difficult to discuss hoops w/o the "hate for the Mavs and all things Dallas" overcoming any rational, intelligent talk about them. I understand though...it's not a Mav board, it's a Spurs board.

  17. #167
    Believe. Beer is Good's Avatar
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    I agree.

  18. #168
    Believe. Barry Bonds's Avatar
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    if your a Mavs fan, face it. u cant say anything good about your team, unless you mention Duncan is the best player in the league in the same sentence. just go to Mavtalk or join the trolls

  19. #169
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    stephon marbury said the whole league was rigged
    but does anyone even care?


    the mavs lost, rigged or not
    who cares.

  20. #170
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    Duncan is the best player in the league but the mavs are for real. The depth of their team is unbelievable.

  21. #171
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    Kobe is better
    even you Spurs fans must agree
    its not even close

  22. #172
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    Kobe is better
    even you Spurs fans must agree
    its not even close
    Kobe is overrated. I actually don't want him on that USA team in that I think he would hurt the chemistry. They would do better with Joe Johnson playing than Kobe Bryant. Ball hogs only hurt the USA team.

  23. #173
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    Kobe has improved some
    as far as passing may go.
    he is a good deal

  24. #174
    Oak Cliff hard hitta
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    Kobe is overrated. I actually don't want him on that USA team in that I think he would hurt the chemistry. They would do better with Joe Johnson playing than Kobe Bryant. Ball hogs only hurt the USA team.
    I like Joe Johnson, hes underrated. If he wasn't on Atlanta he would become a Superstar instead of just a star.

  25. #175
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    Joe Johnson is a great role player. He is a Scottie Pippen type of player. A perfect compliment to a superstar. That's why I think he fits so well complimenting Wade and Lebron.

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