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    Obviously the Spurs don't think he's good enough to pay 3-4M/year, whether it's beside Tim or behind him.
    Like I said- I don't believe it has anything to do with the amount of money- and I have been told that by more than one person I trust.

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    Like I said- I don't believe it has anything to do with the amount of money- and I have been told that by more than one person I trust.
    So you think it's just personal?

    They hate Scola?

    Because you don't think it's about his game or about money.

    So what's it about?

    I think it's about his game and the money.
    I think they don't think he's worth the money that it would take to sign him. I think if he could accept a million a year then he'd be he already.

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    Timvp would have been "proud" of Rasho taking the ball inside and drawing fouls. He shot 9 free throws!
    Props.

    I think that's more than he shot all of last year.

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    How many did he make?

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    Did YOU watch the game? Scola has a really nice jump shot and ABSOLUTLEY does NOT need the ball in the same spots as Tim to score- like the Spurs have claimed. Even people close to the Spurs admit that Scola's not being in SA isn't about money or his basketball skills.
    I never said Scola didn't have skills or didn't deserve a shot in the NBA. My comment was about you always bashing the Spurs FO. I know I'm not the only one who has noticed it.

    Why do you seem to have such a difficult time knowing that the Spurs spew out PR. Are you really that naive that you think everything the Spurs says is true?
    Naive? Not quite. And tell me exactly where I said that everything the Spurs say is true.

    Have you ever listened to Pop blatantly lie through his teeth on the Pop show? People think it is cute to call it CIA-Pop, but it is lying nonetheless, and the Spurs do it all the time.
    You really seem to have a lot of anger towards the organization. I realize that you can still be a fan of the team players and not of the ownership, but success often comes from the top down, so I don't know how you can completely disconnect the two.

    What I wonder is-- why YOU are always the person to come in and defend the Spurs NO MATTER what they say or do? And why does your tagline say "ss&e owns me" if you aren't connected to the Spurs?
    Just me? I don't think so. There are a lot of people here that disagree with you and your take on things. And I don't defend the Spurs "no matter what they say or do" and if you care to read through my old posts, which I doubt you will, you'll see me doing my share of criticizing, although that crown belongs to you.

    And why do I have to be connected to the Spurs to have respect for them and their organization? Bottom line is that you just like to . You should start your own thread called "The Official Spurs Organization Sucks Thread". You can make it your own personal blog.

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    How many did he make?
    5/9 Not wonderful, but the early ones looked great. Rasho played the whole second half and his free throws started to get flatter and flatter.

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    So you think it's just personal?

    They hate Scola?

    Because you don't think it's about his game or about money.

    So what's it about?

    I think it's about his game and the money.
    I think they don't think he's worth the money that it would take to sign him. I think if he could accept a million a year then he'd be he already.
    The person I most trust about all things Spurs FO-wise told me this:
    1. It's not about the $$.
    2. The statements about Scola not being able to play alongside Tim are the "public" reasons given.
    3. More has gone on behind the scenes. You could possibly call it "personal" in the sense that the Spurs don't want Scola. This person has told me for almost 2 years that Scola will never, ever play for the Spurs.

    Maybe he's wrong, but he's been right so far about a lot of things.

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    ^JERRY...JERRY...JERRY^

    Forget about basketball, how about some more of the Springer moments?

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    I think people don't understand-- I have no problem with the Spurs FO running their business however they want. My issue is with their repeated attempts to present themselves publicly as something different from what they are. They are a business- run like any other business- to make $$$. This public persona where they act as if they are so perfect and wonderful when they are just as ruthless as any other professional sports franchise around. They will lie and deceive and do whatever it takes. And anyone who "spurns" them better be ready for the PR assault on them. They do not have more loyalty than all the other teams have for their players. They are not "above" the rest and I get tired of them acting like they are. It is why I said before-- when you portray yourself as better than everyone else, you have farther to fall.

    It is like when I read people claim in here that the Spurs have the classiest fans in the NBA. Really? How many arenas have you been to in order to compare. I have seen plenty of Spurs fans act like real jerks at Spurs games in San Antonio and done things that embarrassed me as a fan. And I have had fans in opposing arenas be really nice to me and tell me how much they like a certain Spurs player and wish he was on their team.

    And yes, someone asked. I am a fan of the PLAYERS- the people- and not the organizational en y. They were already the kind of people they were before they got to SA and will continue to be those kind of people after they are gone.

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    Based on your avatar and that your fave team is the Raptors, perhaps what I'm really reading here is bitterness that they traded Rasho?

    They are not "above" the rest and I get tired of them acting like they are. It is why I said before-- when you portray yourself as better than everyone else, you have farther to fall.
    I realize that it's just one poll, but I anticipate the Spurs still being somewhere in the top 5 when the poll comes out in December 2006. Ouch... looks like your Raptors have some work to do.

    San Antonio Spurs Named ''Best Franchise'' by ESPN The Magazine's Ultimate Standings Fan Poll; Second le for Spurs Since Poll's Debut in 2000
    Dec 7, 2005

    Top 10 Franchises:
    1. San Antonio Spurs (last year's rank: 2)
    2. Detroit Pistons (last year's rank: 1)
    3. Pittsburgh Steelers (last year's rank: 9
    4. Indianapolis Colts (last year's rank: 3)
    5. Los Angeles Angels (last year's rank: 5)
    6. Atlanta Falcons (last year's rank 7)
    7. St. Louis Cardinals (last year's rank 11)
    8. Carolina Panthers (last year's rank 12)
    9. Atlanta Braves (last year's rank: 16)
    10. New England Patriots (last year's rank: 4)

    Bottom 10 Franchises:
    82. Los Angeles Dodgers (last year's rank: 52)
    83. Philadelphia Phillies (last year's rank: 78)
    84. Toronto Raptors (last year's rank: 75)
    85. Tampa Bay Devil Rays (last year's rank: 73)
    86. Arizona Cardinals (last year's rank: 82)
    87. Atlanta Hawks (last year's rank: 88)
    88. New York Knicks (last year's rank: 77)
    89. Portland Trail Blazers (last year's rank: 79)
    90. Minnesota Vikings (last year's rank: 81)
    91. New Orleans Saints (last year's rank: 87)

    And yes, someone asked. I am a fan of the PLAYERS- the people- and not the organizational en y. They were already the kind of people they were before they got to SA and will continue to be those kind of people after they are gone.
    Um... it's the organization that recognizes the kind of people the players are and that's why they bring them here. And, the organization has made errors in judgement when it comes to character in the past, but overall they do bring quality people in. Look! I criticized them! Are you happy now?

    Probably not. Ya know, we've had a similar conversation now in two threads and I'm sure people are getting tired of reading it as much as I'm tired of having it. I know I'm the one that started this one off with a sarcastic comment and I apologize for contributing to this thread getting off track. I really hope the Spurs refund your season tickets in full. We don't need your negative energy in the arena. As for your opinion of the Spurs FO, you're en led to it as much as I'm en led to disagree with you. In the future, I'll simply ignore you.

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    Look- you are the one who came into a thread where I was talking about my perceptions of Scola based upon a game I watched today and from which I drew the conclusion that others have shared with me that Scola COULD indeed play alongside Tim Duncan. You are the one who responded the way you did to my remark.

    As for the ESPN survey- it is based upon fan opinions, and the Spurs PR machine works very well. I already gave them "credit" for that. People "eat it up."

    As for Rasho, I have said on more than one occasion that being traded away from the Spurs was the best thing that could happen for him. Toronto is a great fit- both basketball-wise and culturally. I hope if Pop doesn't play him that Beno gets traded, too.

    it's the organization that recognizes the kind of people the players are and that's why they bring them here.
    This is a perfect example of the PR I am talking about. People believe this- even though the Spurs have had no trouble bringing in players of questionable at ude and character- some with criminal backgrounds- even sexual assault charges. But people just don't want to believe that the "saintly" Spurs would do that.

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    I really want to ignore you, but you're like a bad car wreck.

    Look- you are the one who came into a thread where I was talking about my perceptions of Scola based upon a game I watched today and from which I drew the conclusion that others have shared with me that Scola COULD indeed play alongside Tim Duncan. You are the one who responded the way you did to my remark.
    Is there an echo in here? Did I not say that I was the one that started this with a sarcastic remark? Also, my initial remark had nothing to do with your perceptions about Scola. My remark had to do with you bashing the Spurs FO. Again. Maybe you should go back and refresh your memory.

    This is a perfect example of the PR I am talking about. People believe this- even though the Spurs have had no trouble bringing in players of questionable at ude and character- some with criminal backgrounds- even sexual assault charges. But people just don't want to believe that the "saintly" Spurs would do that.
    You really only read what you want to, don't you? You quoted one sentence of an entire paragraph that I wrote where I actually said that the Spurs have made errors in judgement in the past when it came to character. You make it sound like half the team is made up of thugs and rapists. If you really want to make your argument, make a list of players who have "questionable at ude and character- some with criminal backgrounds- even sexual assault charges" that have existed in the past 10 years and let's compare that number to the number of players who have done nothing but good, both on and off the court.

    As for the ESPN survey- it is based upon fan opinions, and the Spurs PR machine works very well. I already gave them "credit" for that. People "eat it up."
    You think that only Spurs fans were polled? (And what's with the contant use of quotation marks?) And just how much power to you think the Spurs PR department has? You think they can influence how fans of other teams in other cities vote in a poll? Maybe we should send them to the Middle East to see if they can somehow influence peace.

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    When the Spurs sign a top free agent that can actually produce and one that isn't being paid 20 mill by another team, call me.

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    The person I most trust about all things Spurs FO-wise told me this:
    1. It's not about the $$.
    2. The statements about Scola not being able to play alongside Tim are the "public" reasons given.
    3. More has gone on behind the scenes. You could possibly call it "personal" in the sense that the Spurs don't want Scola. This person has told me for almost 2 years that Scola will never, ever play for the Spurs.

    Maybe he's wrong, but he's been right so far about a lot of things.

    I have thought that not being able to play with duncan had some to do with it
    but I also think that rc email to scola to improve his rebound and scola's respond had more to do with it

    the spurs relation with him has always been bad
    scola was ticked he was picked in the second round he wanted the guarantee money
    I also wonder when duncan played against scola something happened....

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    I am sure scola will never be a spur

    but scola is worth a number one draft pick

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    and all nba teams do not tell the fans the whole scoop and they do not need to....

    they do not owe spur fans the real reasons they do

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    one more thing just because the spurs do not want scola does not mean they hate him
    they have TRIED TO TRADE HIM IF THEY HATED HIM THEY WOULD NOT TRY TO TRADE HIM

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    man ducks straightens up his language when he's angry!
    good job furry

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    when I am not at work I type better

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    but scola is worth a number one draft pick
    Says who?

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    Why does Delfino have an asterisk?

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    Why does Delfino have an asterisk?
    Because he fouled out.

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    That BOXSCORE is no good. Brezec had more FGA, and more rebounds. And that is just one players from the crop. They really should do their homework.

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