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I'm shocked that the Spurs are even bothering to go forward with the 2006-07 season, given the changes the Mavs have made.
Umm you know nothing about basketball. The mavs lineup will change based on the opponent. If they need to guard an athletic taller SG then Harris will come off the bench and Buckner or George will start.
Secondly only a Spurs homer would say the Spurs had a better offseason than the Mavs. The Mavs got deeper and more athletic.
I'm shocked that the Spurs are even bothering to go forward with the 2006-07 season, given the changes the Mavs have made.
This question was a while back, but I think that ... Right now, with the team as it is, I would rather have Ager.Hey Dalhoop, would you rather have Bonzi or Ager? Just a quick question of curiosity.
We have a great deal of SG-SF's on the team. (Terry, Buckner, Stackhouse, Howard, Brown and Ager) Having one or more of them that are not expecting many minutes is a blessing in disguise.
As the situation stands right now, there are too many bodys. Adding a personality like Wells would not match with the minutes that would be on the table.
Now if the question was for Buckner and Brown for Bonzi, I would go with Wells as he would be getting the minutes to make him happy. We simply don't have the minutes at the positions to make him happy.
Well Ginobili wasn't able to exploit that matchup as much as he would with someone slower like Griffin or Daniels on him. Terry at shooting guard works fine against the spurs.
Shut the up. The mavs had a better offseason, get over it. Don't even try to argue, there is nothing to argue about. The spurs offseason sucked. Just shut up and hope Duncan, Parker, and Ginobili can carry most of the load.
It's curious that a subject as to which "there is nothing to argue about" has spawned a thread that is already 6 pages (and more than 150 posts) long, with most of those posts dealing with teh very thing as to which you say "there is nothing to argue about."
Good call on your part.
Besides, if there's nothing to argue about, then you've made my point -- the Spurs weren't better than the Mavericks last season and the Mavericks have had a better offseason, which presumably makes them even better than the Spurs. If that's the case, why bother with the season? Understandably, then, I'm surprised the Spurs are even bothering.
I guess if that's the way you feel. It's not like the mavs won by much, but if you want to give up on your team that's your choice. All im saying is the spurs offseason sucked and that it really isn't much of an argument.
I do. I don't understand why the Spurs don't just concede and let the Mavericks get on to the business of winning their next le, or having it stolen from them by the NBA's officials.
Actually, I disagree with pretty much everything you've said, other than the completely valid point that "it's not like the mavs won by much." I also think the Spurs are likely to go deeper into the 2007 playoffs than the Mavericks. I wish I was willing to be as strident as you and claim that nobody can reasonably argue with me, but, well, I choose not to be unreasonable.
Not many teams have a "Star SG" and a "Star SF" (the Rockets are very close, and will be a problem now)
What the Mavs do is to put Howard on the one that they are most worried about (With the Spurs its Manu, because Bowen isn't an offensive threat)
The defensive liability of Terry at SG often is off set by to corresponding miss-match on the other end of the floor having to deal with his speed. That is the Mavs game, making match-ups that other teams don't want to deal with.
The Mavs, by doing this, get teams to play the way that the Mavs play, not the other way around. By going what the Spurs fans call "Small" we forced the Spurs to do the same, even though we didn't go "Small" at all (We still had or SF, PF and C in the game)
Right and what huge moves did you make in the offseason that make you guys a lock for the finals again, did KG get traded to the MAVS and i missed it. You think your role players are going to get you to the le this year. Last time i checked the Mavs supposed versatility and bench was going to crush the HEAT, did not work out that way did it. The Mavs lost because your boy Dirk was Duncan's equal in the series vs the Spurs and then played like his usual self in game 6 of the finals. I thought Dirk was finally ready to be a champion, well when i saw him jacking up half assed 3pt shots in game 6 instead of driving to the hole like he did against us i knew otherwise. Spurs, Suns and Mavs are all about even as teams and it will be a dogfight in the west this year.
No huge moves, just slight improvements and tweaks here and there. They players the mavs added aren't necessarily all improvements, but they add more defensive toughness. We need that defense and toughness more than we needed an improved bench, our bench was already one of the best.
So who will Harris or Terry guard? Finley? Bowen? Both can shoot over either of them all day, and Finley can post him up pretty good. You can't just say Ginobili will be guarded by somebody else without address who both of these players will guard. No matter who, they are going to give up a LOT of length.
And of course, if they pull this again Miami, Wade is going to eat them alive in the post, McGrady, Kobe, Richardson, and even Raja Bell are ALL going to destroy them.
That's the touchy point that has been dividing the Spurs fan base over summer. Should the Spurs have played Mavs ball?
As for the speed issue, both Terry and Harris needs the ball to be effective (Terry less so), and if either of them gets it, it means the ball off of Nowitzki's hand. In the case vs. the Spurs, Parker can deal with one, while Ginobili can deal with the other, with Bowen on Howard, Elson/Finley/Oberto/Horry/whoever on Dirk, and Duncan on the last guy, readily helping out on drives by the Mavs.
Haha good one.....do you even know the Spurs players or basketball? Bowen and Finley are going to shoot over em....I'm sure Avery is shaking at the thought lol. In case you haven't figured it out, BOWEN SUCKS AT SHOOTING!!!
Secondly, Parker can't guard anyone did you watch Harris tear him up like Parker does to everyone else? We all know Bowen will guard Dirk 90% of the time cause if not your group of Elson/Finley/Oberto/Horry/whoever (including Duncan) will get lit the f up.
Face it homers the Mavs and Spurs are 2 great teams and if they meet again it will be another classic. Spurs surely can win the series but the edge at this time must go to the Mavs since they are younger/more athletic and the defending WCF. BTW in case you are all wondering AMARE LOOMS!!!!
Say that to his 43 percent from the 2point and 42 from the 3point line.
Those are some big words against one of the top 3point shooters in the league last season, as a matter of fact, I think he was number 1 for the better part of the first half of last season.
I agree about Dirk though, I dont think he can be stopped... but he can have his points.. Its the others that we need to stop, just like we did to Amare in the Suns series in 2005. He got his points because we let him, we shut everyone else down with maybe the exception of Nash, but even that can be argued.
And I disagree that the Mavs have the advantage, as far as Im concerned its dead even until proven otherwise. As I said before I doubt Dirk has such a career year again.... If he does, win or lose, he should be the regular season MVP and if not he was robbed.
bah, beat me to it, but I typed alot more then you
FYI genius 43% from the field SUCKS. Also, his career stats are 41% from the field and 39% from 3's...granted he only takes corner 3's which are closer. In addition, he's a mind blowing 57% from the FT line. If you are counting on BRUCE F'N BOWEN to score or do ANYTHING OTHER THAN play D and HIT a couple 3's YOU HAVE ALL LOST YOUR MINDS!!!
take a look at your whole teams 3pt line FG% and how many shots they took (its important to take both into account) vs Bowens 3pt FG% and how many shots he took. Show the stats here.... go ahead.FYI genius 43% from the field SUCKS. Also, his career stats are 41% from the field and 39% from 3's...granted he only takes corner 3's which are closer. In addition, he's a mind blowing 57% from the FT line. If you are counting on BRUCE F'N BOWEN to score or do ANYTHING OTHER THAN play D and HIT a couple 3's YOU HAVE ALL LOST YOUR MINDS!!!
If you honestly think Bowens stats sucked last year then YOU have no idea what you are talking about and YOU have lost your mind. Lookin gat Bowens stats last year from beyond the arc (regardless of where he shoots it from) most people would think he played for the Suns.
Career Stats:FYI genius 43% from the field SUCKS. Also, his career stats are 41% from the field and 39% from 3's...granted he only takes corner 3's which are closer. In addition, he's a mind blowing 57% from the FT line. If you are counting on BRUCE F'N BOWEN to score or do ANYTHING OTHER THAN play D and HIT a couple 3's YOU HAVE ALL LOST YOUR MINDS!!!
Jason Terry:44% 2point, 38% 3point
Devin Harris:45% 2point, 32 3point
Dirk Nowitzki:46% 2point, 38% 3point
Josh Howard:46% 2point, 33% 3point
He beat out y'all at 3s while y'all beat him out at 2s.
lol, thanks #1EF, thats exactly the Im talking about.... now WHO doesnt know basketball?
but wait, let me guess, 41% sucks but 46% is TONS better..... right?
(EDIT..put 43%, meant to put 41%)
Last edited by phyzik; 10-09-2006 at 10:00 PM.
How is it that a difference of 5% tells you whether someone sucks or is your jumpshot threat?
Are you seriously trying to make the argument that Bowen is as good as those guys offensively? If not, then what is the point of posting stats? I surely hope that's not the point you are trying to make because if so you just lost all respect that you might have had.
Ummm 1st of all it's basic math and common sense...gald to see Spurs fans are such homers that they fail to see this.
1. Bruce Bowen does not CREATE his own shot...he gets OPEN LOOKS. If you even try to argue this you are a moron.
2. Secondly, way to round down on those percentages for the Mavs players homer. Math review...46.6% is not 46% it's closer to 47%
3. Lastly, 5% difference is HUGE!!!! If you don't think so then you my friend need to go back to high school.
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