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    Beno looked unhappy in the footage they showed on the news. It made me sad.
    he should be sad
    he should be on the court

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    Beno may actually want out of SA with his good buddy Rasho gone. I think one of Beno's problems is the need to develop mental toughness.
    Good point. If you notice what move the Mavs have made, Avery has brilliantly "weeded out" those players with whom he felt lacked that type of toughness (Van Horn, Marquis Daniels, Doug Christie).

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    I seem to remember another young point guard who said PUBLICLY that he wanted to be traded if Jason Kidd came to the Spurs.

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    I seem to remember another young point guard who said PUBLICLY that he wanted to be traded if Jason Kidd came to the Spurs.
    And? That guy could bring the ball past halfcourt.

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    And? That guy could bring the ball past halfcourt.
    Chump, you're just a hater.

    Why does Beno always get ripped on when Tony turned the ball over once, Tim didn't average a triple-double and Rasho didn't win the slam-dunk contest?

    Beno just needs to get a chance to play even though he's had those chances before and screwed them up. Beno deserves to get 32 minutes a night so he can prove once and for all that he can score six points a night.

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    I look at Beno and think about his potential ceiling as an NBA player and I wonder if it's worth the trouble. There are things he could do very well, but damn.

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    I look at Beno and think about his potential ceiling as an NBA player and I wonder if it's worth the trouble.
    Reading O_V trying to put Beno's contributions on par with Manu's is enough to make me was to join the radical wing of the Church of Manu.

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    Yeah, that was fatwa-worthy.

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    Good point. If you notice what move the Mavs have made, Avery has brilliantly "weeded out" those players with whom he felt lacked that type of toughness (Van Horn, Marquis Daniels, Doug Christie).
    + Finley

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    why is it that in slovenia they castrate their young?

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    why is it that in slovenia they castrate their young?
    Cool down boy!

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    ... and it's on Pop that he wasn't replaced before the trade deadline last year. It's even more so on Pop that we've gone an entire offseason without moving him and that the coaching staff is now destroying any residual value he might have had. Fourth point guard? , people. If Pop got blindsided into having NO plan for backing up Parker I'm not sure how you manage not to blame him for it.
    Pop may have stuck his neck out for Beno and now be pissed because Beno hasn't come through. I seem to remember that Pop said that Beno could wrap up the backup PG slot this year and should prove himself this year.

    Hamstring injuries are funny things. Sometimes you can play with them if you get physical therapy to loosen the muscles immediately before a practice or game. Often they come from dehydration or from not being in shape to play when they are called upon for physical action outside the norm. Was Beno in shape when he reported? Is he working his therapy program diligently?

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    Beno looked unhappy in the footage they showed on the news. It made me sad.
    No offense Angel, but get over it. Beno has no one to blame but himself. Can we please knock off the boo ing hoo ?

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    Beno can't let it be an excuse, but I can see how losing a good friend and countryman on your team could be an added stress factor.
    Stress factor? What stress factor? All he has to do is practice, stay healthy, and play 10 ing minutes per game, and that appears to be too much for him to handle. If it is, as it appears to be, he doesn't belong on the Spurs.

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    Reading O_V trying to put Beno's contributions on par with Manu's is enough to make me was to join the radical wing of the Church of Manu.
    The intent was to point out what hypocrites you guys are that cite a game where Beno turned the ball over twice as reason that he sucks when Manu turned the ball over three times in the same game. It's funny that you guys will cut Manu slack for something he did two years ago but won't even give Beno credit for the two games before the Houston game where he scored 25 points.

    If Beno sucks so bad that he can't even be given playing time because he will single handedly lose the game, he should have been gone a long time ago, or at very least someone should have perhaps made personnel moves so that we aren't facing the season with Barry as the number 2 point guard.

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    The intent was to point out what hypocrites you guys are that cite a game where Beno turned the ball over twice as reason that he sucks when Manu turned the ball over three times in the same game. It's funny that you guys will cut Manu slack for something he did two years ago but won't even give Beno credit for the two games before the Houston game where he scored 25 points.
    I don't quite see the hypocrisy when you're comparing apples and oranges. Yes, Manu has more than his share of turnovers, but he also has his lion's share of heroics. Manu made a huge mistake with the foul on Dirk, but Pop immediately declared that he's still a founding member of the Church. Beno has had some shining moments and I think that every Spurs fan would've liked nothing more than for him to be our PG backup stud, but it just hasn't happened. Pop really has shown supreme patience with him, but I think it's simply time to move on.

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    udrih could make a nba career out of being parker's backup if he had the nuts

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    The intent was to point out what hypocrites you guys are that cite a game where Beno turned the ball over twice as reason that he sucks when Manu turned the ball over three times in the same game. It's funny that you guys will cut Manu slack for something he did two years ago but won't even give Beno credit for the two games before the Houston game where he scored 25 points.

    If Beno sucks so bad that he can't even be given playing time because he will single handedly lose the game, he should have been gone a long time ago, or at very least someone should have perhaps made personnel moves so that we aren't facing the season with Barry as the number 2 point guard.
    Beno played very few minutes and Manu many. As pointed out, apples and oranges.

    Manu also takes more than a passing interest in playing defense.

    Beno played pretty well as a rookie up until the Finals. Las year he came in fat and out of shape and had an overall horrible year. He regressed. He was expected to come in in better shape this year. That didn't happen. Pop was pissed. They wanted to give him a chance to improve and progress this year, but it seems like he doesn't give a if he comes in out of shape.

    A Basketball player should never pull a hammy. Sprinters and sprinter type athletes like WRs are the ones vulnerable to hamstring pulls because of the bursts of stress on the muscle. A basketball player with the ball is rarely going more than 70% of potential speed. If you are properly conditioned and flexible, a hoopster won't pull a hammy.
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    I don't quite see the hypocrisy when you're comparing apples and oranges. Yes, Manu has more than his share of turnovers, but he also has his lion's share of heroics. Manu made a huge mistake with the foul on Dirk, but Pop immediately declared that he's still a founding member of the Church. Beno has had some shining moments and I think that every Spurs fan would've liked nothing more than for him to be our PG backup stud, but it just hasn't happened. Pop really has shown supreme patience with him, but I think it's simply time to move on.
    When a fan ignores one player's mistakes to focus on what he does well, even years before and focuses on another player's mistakes while ignoring what he does well, even in the previous game, it's hardly apples and oranges. And how is benching a guy when he s up, showing him up and bad mouthing him "supreme patience"? I'll be glad when the little er is gone just so some of these folks will shut up.

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    When a fan ignores one player's mistakes to focus on what he does well, even years before and focuses on another player's mistakes while ignoring what he does well, even in the previous game, it's hardly apples and oranges. And how is benching a guy when he s up, showing him up and bad mouthing him "supreme patience"? I'll be glad when the little er is gone just so some of these folks will shut up.
    Who ignores the mistakes? Obviously you weren't around after the Spurs were eliminated, but just go ahead and believe what you want.

    But just answer these two questions: How many games has Manu won for the Spurs? How many games has Beno?

    I'll be glad when you log off so you will shut the up.

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    Who ignores the mistakes? Obviously you weren't around after the Spurs were eliminated, but just go ahead and believe what you want.

    But just answer these two questions: How many games has Manu won for the Spurs? How many games has Beno?

    I'll be glad when you log off so you will shut the up.
    There's a real easy way to deal with it, pussy. Click the little X.

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    And how is benching a guy when he s up, showing him up and bad mouthing him "supreme patience"?
    At what season would you like to declare "The Beno Experiment" over?

    The end of year three? The end of year four?

    I would like to think the Spurs wouldn't want to waste anymore of the Big Three's prime to make sure you felt satisfied about the little backup point guard that couldn't.

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    When a fan ignores one player's mistakes to focus on what he does well, even years before and focuses on another player's mistakes while ignoring what he does well, even in the previous game, it's hardly apples and oranges.
    Sorry... I've read this 3 times now and I still can't make sense of it.

    And how is benching a guy when he s up, showing him up and bad mouthing him "supreme patience"?
    He's been with the team for 2 seasons, supposedly about to start his third, and there has been a huge question mark on him since his rookie season. We know that Beno has been mentioned in some trade packages in the past, but Pop has said before that the primary backup position has been Beno's to lose, so he really doesn't have anyone to blame but himself.

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    There's a real easy way to deal with it, pussy. Click the little X.
    You still failed to answer the question.

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    O_V, are you still shaken up that the Spurs didn't give Hedo years of opportunities? Ron Mercer? Anthony Carter?

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