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This is just too funny.
i think your mentally challenged if you think i idolize him....What do you think?
OK SARCASM! I didn't know sorry man!! just found out!!
then for the person who Idolized finley who can no longer shoot!!!lol
That's a little harsh. If someone just read your (joke) le, then how would they know? Many people don't read all the posts here.
HAHA! KORI GOT MY BACK!!
Don't worry it's all good... What do you expect from a person who follows Finley back from Phoenix days!!!
n00b....HAHA! KORI GOT MY BACK!!
Don't worry it's all good... What do you expect from a person who follows Finley back from Phoenix days!!!
Anyways back on topic, I'm glad to hear that the spurs are interested in him. Anybody outside the big three and Bruce is expandable to fill this need at the three spot.
You could use Nick van Exel instead.
The chances of a trade with the clips, imho, are limited to these :
1) Udrih + Barry for maggette
or, in case the clips (like supposedly, is) want to get rid of Cassell
2) Udrih + Barry + Bonner + E. Williams for Cassell + Maggette
They both work for real gm trade checker.
The second one could give to both teams what they need (Cassell, when healty - now is injured but I don't know if is a real bad one or just a false one- is too much of a presence for the good development of Livingston) : a young, decent, pm backing up Livingston (Udrih), outside shooters, with experience (Barry and Bonner) and expiring contracts (Bonner, E. Will) or short ones (Barry, Udrih).
Cassell, in our team, could maybe accept his new role of back up and be a good weapon out the bench...
whattabout ?
I don't think that Clippers want to trade Cassell.
A trade for Maggette will likely have this structure : Barry + a player to match Maggette salary + incentives.
The player to match Maggette salary can be Bonner, Udrih, Williams (Clippers should add Korolev in this case) or Butler. Clippers won't see in them more than a trade filler : Bonner won't play with Tim Thomas, Udrih will be their 3rd string PG... among these 4 players, I rather trade Williams who is the less usefull player. I don't think Spurs should trade Udrih because they will need his shooting after trading a shooter (Barry) for a slasher (Maggette). I'd like to keep Bonner too because Horry's risk to have an injury are quite high at his age.
Incentives can be : first round pick, rights to Scola, second round pick ....
I guess that Clippers will ask at least for Spurs 07 first round pick.
Barry+Williams+ 1st round Pick for Maggette and Korolev would be awesome....
Do we really want to give up next year's draft pick? I'd think the Spurs would balk at putting up the 2007 pick, which is bound to find decent players still on the board that late, and is a pick we vitally need to inject some youth into this team.
How about a future first?
Yeah, even though Maggette would be an improvement, I'd be wary of giving up 2007 draft picks. Even a late first rounder and 2 or 3 seconds could net the Spurs some real quality players and future contributors. There also exists the possibility of packaging picks and players to move up in the draft and get a lottery-type talent.
I don't really see a late 2007 first round pick putting a Brent Barry(+) package over the top of any other team. Is Barry+2007 pick going to overwhelm Dorrel Wright+(something)? No, the Spurs' chances revolve more around whether better packages drop out of sight. Also, whether the Clips recognize that Barry could really help their team immediately. Of course, he could, but the exchange of talent and potential is clearly not equitable.
If I were LAC I'd just ride it out until Sacto decides to trade Artest. There's no quick fix until the deadline that will turn their team around. They already have the pieces there.
Well Barry is proven, unlike Wright, but I see your point about how weak the Spurs' overall package would be.
As is, I don't see anything happening, and my point was that I'd probably be in favor of SA keeping the picks for the potential long-term gain.
Me too. I don't want to trade first round picks away.
It's a bit too early to speculate, but I get all giddy when I look at the Top 100 prospects listed on ESPN. There are so real solid players that could fall right into the Spurs' laps.
Matter of fact...I think I'll go do that right now.
Clippers' GM isn't dumb. He knows too that a 2007 first round pick is better than a 08 first round pick. A late first round pick in a weak draft has little value : last year, Blazers get the 30th pick only by giving $3M to Suns.
The state of the market for Maggette will determine what kind of incentives Spurs should add if they want him : 07 first round pick, 08 first round pick, Scola, 2nd round picks...
Reports are that Toronto is offering Peterson for Maggette. If I was Clippers GM, I would only do a trade with Spurs if the package around Barry is better than the package around Peterson
I hope this is what I was saying. I was saying the Spurs shouldn't give up their 2007 pick and shouldn't even offer it. Even if this year turns out to not be as deep as we think (Odom and others staying in school), we can't afford to miss another young player, whoever he is.
It looks like the Artest deal is dead, and was never truly offered. Mo Pete is a much better deal than Barry, though they stand to lose him once the year is up, plus Barry can play some point if Cassel is down.
I don't think the Spurs are necessarily that far away, but being second or third in line is the same thing as nothing.
You mean Oden?
I'd throw in the draft pick if it meant getting Maggette. Drafting late in the first round, even in the best of drafts, is still a crap shoot. Barry + EWill + 2007 1st for Maggette would be very nice.
Exactly, theres no assured player in the draft that will be as good as what Magette does nad its not like he's old.
Thought the Spurs can't trade their 07 first round pick. They tradred their 2006 pick and thought there's a rule against trading your 1st round pick two years in a orow
That trade wouldn't work under the rules. The Clips would have to include an additional player or the Spurs would have to replace Williams with a cheaper player (Bonner) to make the salaries match.
That only applies to FUTURE 1st round picks. The 2006 Draft has come and gone, so it resets.
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