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  1. #151
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    Congratulations. You've just elevated yourself to Complete ing Moron status.
    So when do we get to talk on the same level. How low?

    Hey, that was not a friendly line to drop, if you know what i mean.

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    The ONLY person to bring up religion is YOU.

    And nobody else can figure out what the you're talking about.

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    And still you call ME a moron...

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    And you are a politicaly correct moron if you try to make his religion more of an political issue as just a marketing ploy.
    People who live in glass houses...

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    That's my question, too. WTF?

    I also never heard him marketed as a replacement for Malik. He just switched roster spots with him, AFAIK. They were looking for a more "big man" skill set. Malik was falling in love with handling the ball and raining jumpers.

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    I don't believe Zelini is in touch with reality. Malik is NOT a Muslim. Doesn't anyone remember how big of an influence David Robinson had on him with religion?

    Anyhow, Nazr was NEVER marketed as a Muslim. That would be extremely foolish given the way this country feels towards Muslims at this time.

    Zelini is a complete moron.

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    No, Malik is not Muslim.

    The only time Nazr's religion was ever brought up was when he fasted for Ramadan.

    Until this recent campaign to be the Designated Moron of the Board.

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    The plot thickens...

    Mohammed says he'll ask for trade if role continues to shrink

    AUBURN HILLS -- If Nazr Mohammed's role with the Detroit Pistons continues to shrink, the 6-foot-10 center said he will ask to be traded.

    "I'm not that type of guy who can sit on the bench happily," Mohammed said prior to Monday's 94-90 overtime loss to the Minnesota Timberwolves. "I came here to play. I like to be part of what the team is doing on the floor. So if I'm not in the plans, then yeah, I would ask for a trade."

    Mohammed has been displeased with his role for weeks, but it wasn't until Monday, when the Pistons got word that Chris Webber was planning to join the team today, that he alluded to the idea of asking for a trade.

    Webber's arrival will mean reduced playing time for some, if not all, of Detroit's frontcourt players. Mohammed's minutes were already being cut by head coach Flip Saunders before Webber's commitment, and after starting the first 33 games this season, Mohammed was replaced by Dale Davis the last three games.

    Not only has Mohammed, an off-season free-agent signee, been unhappy with his reduced role, he was also bothered by the way his demotion from the starting lineup was handled.

    "I would have appreciated him (Saunders) saying something to me at least when he took me out of the lineup," said Mohammed, who indicated that he didn't learn he had lost his starting job until Saunders talked about player matchups prior to last Friday's game at Atlanta. "I was really (upset) about that. But all I know how to do is when you're mad, you work harder. You go to the gym, put in your work, you work harder and hard work pays off. That's what I' m going to do."

    Reserve forward Antonio McDyess believes Webber's arrival will make it necessary for the Pistons to trade at least one of their big men.

    "He'll definitely help us, but there's a few guys in this room who are biting their nails, wondering who's lucky number is going to be called," McDyess said. "Because you know, somebody has to go."

    In all likelihood, that somebody will be Mohammed.


    Reserve guard Lindsey Hunter returned on Monday after missing the previous 18 games with a sore right Achilles tendon. He was scoreless in 10 minutes, but had two assists and a steal. . . . The Pistons have had some preliminary discussions with the Timberwolves regarding a trade for Marko Jaric. The Pistons like his versatility -- he can play both guard positions and small forward -- but they aren't enamored with his contract, which has four years and more than $27 million remaining.

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    For the record, Malik isn't Muslim. He's very Christian and led the Spurs worships after certain games after David's retirement. Why did you (Zeleni) think he was Muslim?

    Also Nazr wasn't marketed as a Muslim - no one even mentioned it except during his slumps during/after Ramadan.

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    Nazr to the Rockets?

    I question the validity of this guy's information because I think he is off on what actually happened with the Spurs and Nazr this past summer. I don't think the Spurs offered Nazr a contract and a starting job, but here it is anyway.

    ...Since then Bonzi has struggled with different nagging injuries, due largely to the fact that he wasn’t in shape to begin with. When he has been in shape his at ude has prevented him from being on the court for more than a few cameo appearances. Jeff Van Gundy has had enough, so when the Detroit Pistons called offering Nazr Mohammed the Rockets should have jumped all over it.

    Nazr is not someone who makes the Rockets a deep playoff team, but he is someone who can step in and spell Yao Ming and Dikembe Mutombo. He can also be the Rockets’ solution to replacing Mutombo after the season. He has championship experience as a member of the San Antonio Spurs and as shown that when properly motivated he can be a productive low post player. He averaged 11 and 8 for the Knicks before landing in San Antonio and also gave the Atlanta Hawks 12 and 9 when they were leaning on him as their only low post threat.

    Gregg Popovich came to the conclusion that Nazr doesn’t do enough on either end of the court, which is why he began taking away playing time last season. The idea, however, was to start him when they traded Rasho Nesterovic to the Toronto Raptors. They were surprised to learn that Nzar was spurning their starting role in favor of playing in Detroit. Nazr was not amused with Popovich’s dog house routine, and preferred to change venues. Ironically, the Pistons have come to the same conclusion. Nazr doesn’t bring enough to the equation to be their starting center.

    The Rockets don’t need a starting center. They need a solid back-up who can fill the void while the team waits for Yao Ming to return from his knee injury. Mutombo is playing outstanding basketball, but what would happen if he were to get hurt while putting more than 30 minutes per night on a 40-year-old body? The way the Rockets have struggled with injuries over the last few seasons they would do well to bring in another reserve who could start in a pinch.

    The Pistons are considering some other deals, but the Rockets have reportedly made it clear that a Nazr-for-Bonzi deal is ready and waiting.
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    Seems like an awful big contract for a back up center who gripes about playing time!
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    For the record, Malik isn't Muslim. He's very Christian and led the Spurs worships after certain games after David's retirement. Why did you (Zeleni) think he was Muslim?
    I'm guessing because Malik is an Arabic name by origin.

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    I was (now obviously) wrong about Nazr. I remembered the talk about ramadan and that Malik was very religious, but forgot his religion. So I just went after his name.
    I am sorry for that blunder, since it is sensitive to all of you.

    They were both very religious. At least that is very common to both of them. And then there is race, determination, stubborness and low interest in tactics or strategy by either of them. (Ambition, and other great things about both of them are shared with all other Spurs.)

    But still...
    Nazr is still a player without a big role within a NBA team. Rasho is again vital, now even a mentor.

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    I was (now obviously) wrong about Nazr. I remembered the talk about ramadan and that Malik was very religious, but forgot his religion. So I just went after his name.
    I am sorry for that blunder, since it is sensitive to all of you.

    They were both very religious. At least that is very common to both of them. And then there is race, determination, stubborness and low interest in tactics or strategy by either of them. (Ambition, and other great things about both of them are shared with all other Spurs.)

    But still...
    Nazr is still a player without a big role within a NBA team. Rasho is again vital, now even a mentor.
    Give it up.

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