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    I'm searching for it. I came across it earlier today while doing a bit of research. I'll post it if I find it, in the meantime take this little test.


    http://www.pitbullsontheweb.com/petbull/findpit.html


    Imagine all of the reported attacks by people claiming the dog was a Pitbull, when in fact they don't even know how to properly identify one.

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    Cases of mistaken iden y:

    http://www.understand-a-bull.com/BSL...ty/WrongId.htm


    Here is my favorite.

    "Another case of mistaken iden y. Headlines after fatal attack "Pit bull kills baby", The TRUE story, it was an American Bulldog that killed the child. The families American Pit Bull Terrier, attempted to save the child by attacking the other dog in an attempt to get her to release the child according to the parent."

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    Yes, Pitbulls are more inclined to have idiot owners.

    If restrictions are put on these dogs, these same idiots will just move on to another dog breed and the problems will still be the same. It has everything to do with the owner.
    But said idiots control the DNA of these dogs.

    To base your opinions solely on the actions of owners while totally dismissing the effects of breeders is short-sighted, to say the least

    TLong put it best - Pit Bulls have some "crazy mother er" genes.

    ... and now for something completely different - how do you label a dog as a Pit Bull? Green card? Doggie profiling?

    Digressing - I adopted a dog at the annual pet adoption drive at (that place on Nacodoches Rd., forget the name) back in 94-ish. ALLEGEDLY, she was half German Shepard, half Boxer. I could see the Shepard, but the pit bull was unmistakable - eyes and jaws were dead giveaways. I loved her to death, Gerty was her name, but once I had a child, she had to go back. I could instinctively look in her eyes and know she had no place around my child. It was purely a DNA matter; no way my dog-owner skills could override her demeanor.

    Digressing, Part II - she was ripped. 80 pounds of muscle (with 2% bodyfat), and fast! She would catch and kill squirrels in the back yard, often. She could bench 315 easily!

    Digressing Part III - Eff the animal adoption place. Once I returned Gerty, I was placed on their blacklist and could not adopt a more child-friendly dog.

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    TLong put it best - Pit Bulls have some "crazy mother er" genes.
    Put it best? Or put it wrong?

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    http://www.understand-a-bull.com/Pit...banlegends.htm


    (From ACF) There is no scientific proof that Pit Bull’s, or any other breed of dog is dangerous. Since when has scientific proof for baseless allegations ever been important, right Guru?The Foundation's collective experience and research has found the American Pit Bull Terrier is a "terrier." All terriers have animal prey
    drive, but this does not make them dangerous or vicious. The Pit Bull type dog comes from Europe and evolved from some Mastiff based breed such as with some Bulldog blood either in a pure form or to a variation of any of the many terrier and hound groups beginning with the now extinct Black and Tans Terriers and Olde English White Terriers. English and Irish immigrants imported the dogs. Unfortunately, it was discovered in the late 1800's that if trained, the dogs could be used in the inhumane sport of dog fighting. Due to federal laws passed in the 1970's prohibiting dog
    fighting fewer dogs are now trained for the illegal sport.

    The American Pit Bull Terrier is shown in the American Kennel Club
    (AmStaff), United Kennel Club, American Dog Breeders Association, Canadian Kennel Club, and the American Rare Breed Association . The American Pit Bull Terrier is shown in the conformation and obedience ring. This breed competes in weight pull events in the ADBA, UKC and International Weight Pulling Association. The American Temperament Test Society (POBox 4093, St Louis, and MO 63136 Phone 314-869-6103, in the 24 years of testing over 185 breeds of dog, rates the Pit Bull at 83.1%. This is higher than the national average for all other breeds of dog. This means the Pit Bull has the best overall temperament. So a dog with "crazy mother ing genes" happens to beat out every other breed of dogs when it comes to which one has the best temperament? Again, crazy mother ing genes?.The American Pit Bull Terrier also rates high in the
    Canine Good Citizens Test. The Pit Bull is used for Search and Rescue and as
    a Therapy dog. Our Foundation uses them along with other breeds for bite
    prevention and responsible ownership classes in the Washington School
    Districts. Two US Presidents owned Pit Bulls and countless famous people
    own them. In our country more families own the Pit Bull than any other dog
    breed in existence. (WAFAmicus Alabama 2002)

    From American Canine Foundation:
    Since 1936 there have been an estimated 4.8 million registered American Pit Bull Terriers, American Staffordshire Terriers and Staffordshire Bull Terriers that have been selective bred for companionship and conformation dog shows. These dogs are not bred for dog fighting and HSUS estimates 200,000 thousands Pit Bulls are used for illegal activity. There is no proof that the 4.8 million APBT's are included in this figure, because the registries AKC/UKC/ADBA that register these dogs prohibit illegal dog fighting. If it could be proved that any of the registered APBT's were involved in illegal activity, it would be less than 4 percent out of 4.8 million. There is an estimated 52 million dogs in the United States and the American Pit Bull Terrier takes up 9.6 percent of the dog population and that does not count unregistered ones. There is no such dog called a Pit Bull Type Dog, it would be a mix breed. (ACF2003)


    Hmmmm...........Tlong's opinion or a Dr.'s expert opinion on canine behavior? That's a tough one Guru.
    Dr. Cornelia Wagner DVM, an expert on canine behavior from the University of Wisconsin, states: BLAMING THE GENETIC MAKEUP OF THE DOG IS WRONG. (Fedderson-Peterson, D.U.(2001) Zur Biologie des aggression des Hundes, Disch Tierarzil, Wschr 108 (3),94-101, environmental and learning effects are always stronger than genetic influence. Although certain dog breeds such as the Rottweiler and American Pit Bull Terrier have the reputation of having stronger jaws than other breeds, valuable scientific studies showing significant differences in jaw strength among breeds does not exist. In summary, the classification of dog breeds with respect to their relative danger to humans makes no sense, as both the complex antecedent conditions in which aggressive behavior occurs, and its ramifying consequences in the individual dog's ecological and social environment are not considered."

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    ALLEGEDLY, she was half German Shepard, half Boxer. I could see the Shepard, but the pit bull was unmistakable - eyes and jaws were dead giveaways.
    Dead giveaways? See if you can find the pit here on your first, second, or third try.

    http://www.pitbullsontheweb.com/petbull/findpit.html

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    a pitbull..... i just bought a pet jaguar..... who wanna with that? the ebay sender said it should reach my house within 2-3 weeks.....

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    How much was your winning bid?????

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    a cool 2 gs..........

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    Put it best? Or put it wrong?
    Don't Bleed on Me

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    Did your eyes flicker with sleep while reading my post?

    Lemme finish perusing the content at understand-a-wolf.com and I will get back to you.

    If only there were an understand-a- .com web site, I might still be married.

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    Rotties are high-strung, but in my opinion they're not as bad as Pits. Rotweilers were bred to be attack dogs, which obviously means they're capable of doing great harm. However, they were often used for military purposes and were used to discipline. Pits were bread to be fighting dogs. All they were made for was to fight to the death. They have some "crazy mother er" genes in them.
    I had to quote this one more time just to point out how wrong you are. Pits were bred to be fighting dogs, we all know this. Over the course of the hundred or so years they were bred for fighting, any Pit that bit the hand of an owner or referee was immediately killed. The whole point of this was so that when the fight needed to be broken up, the owners and referees didn't have to be afraid of getting bitten. These same dogs that fought were also kept by the owners in their houses with their families. Human aggressiveness was bred out of the dog. This is actually why Pits are also lousy guard dogs (unless trained), a common saying among Pit owners is "a Pits never met a stranger".

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    I dont' get the fascination with this breed of dog. Why is it that every attack I hear about involves pit bulls? Are the media just hyping them up or are the dogs really just involved in that many incidents?
    Back to your original question Manny, yes, the media hypes them up. And with the information I've provided, not only can you see they are hyped up, but also largely misidentified. The American Pit Bull Terrier has been unfairly represented in the publics eyes.




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    wait til i take pictures of my jaguar and post them s in a few weeks.... dudes is gonna be so dam mad.....

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    You people make me sick....bunch of uninformed dumbasses.

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    i bet you wont say that when you see me walking my jaguar

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    I put gold teeth on my pits.

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    The American Pit Bull Terrier has been unfairly represented in the publics eyes.
    And to those who disagree with me, keep silent or I'll unleash the wrath of my Pit Bulls on you.

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    I am watching a rerun of the 10pm news and Bexar County Deputies had to shoot and kill a pit bull mix for attacking a man, and that they only shot him because he was still trying to attack him, even after they were separated. Funny that this happened today right here.

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    I am watching a rerun of the 10pm news and Bexar County Deputies had to shoot and kill a pit bull mix for attacking a man, and that they only shot him because he was still trying to attack him, even after they were separated. Funny that this happened today right here.
    We are not talking about a Pit Bull mix, we are talking about American Pit Bull Terriers. And what exactly is a Pit Bull mix?

    And again, take a look at the link I posted of all the times they are misidentified. I'm guessing you couldn't pick out a pit bull from the 20 other breeds they are mistaken for. Go ahead, take the test, click on the link.

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    Is that what we are talking about, or is that what YOU are talking about because it skews the stats a little more in your favor? Pit Bull mix probably means just like what it sounds- a mix of a pb and some other dog. I am not using this incident as proof of anything, just saying its funny that a dog that is partial pit bull ended up mauling a man today here in SA.

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    Is that what we are talking about, or is that what YOU are talking about because it skews the stats a little more in your favor? Pit Bull mix probably means just like what it sounds- a mix of a pb and some other dog. I am not using this incident as proof of anything, just saying its funny that a dog that is partial pit bull ended up mauling a man today here in SA.
    This entire time I've been talking about American Pit Bull Terriers. And what proof do they have this is a Pit Bull mix anyways? Because it looks like one? Well guess what, there are numerous Terrier breeds that can look like a Pit, and not even be close to one. And why didn't they name the other part of the mix the dog was? Was it a Pit/Lab mix? A Pit/Poodle mix? A Pit/Chihuahua mix? If they were so sure it was half pit, how come they can't identify the other half? Anytime a dog resembles a Pit and it has something to do with an attack, they label the dog a pit.


    Need some further proof?


    "Kansas City, MO March 6, 2006 Headlines on the news report "Pit Bull attacks 12 yr old". However the dog pictured being captured isn't a pit bull, nor does it appear to be a pit mix. After complaints to the News station regarding the breed id and using the term Pit Bull, what did they do? They removed the picture of the dog and left it as a pit bull attacks story"

    "December 2005, Detroit. There was a 91yr old woman that appears to have been killed by her dog. Initial reports of course indicate it's a pit bull, a report the next morning identifies the dog as a Bull Mastiff, and yet another says it's a possible pit bull / American Bulldog mix. Then end result, it's a 90lb mixed breed dog, end of story. If you don't know the breed, don't write it."

    "December 2005 - New York; Article indicates the officer was attacked by a Pit Bull, yet the picture of the dog being led aware is not a pit bull."

    " Indiana (September 2005) American Bulldog attacks child it was initialy reported by press as pit bull attack."

    "North Towanda, NY (October 2005)- This attack was initially reported as Pit bulls. The dogs were later correctly identified as a Lab Mix and a Mastiff Mix."

    "So it happens yet again. In Saginaw Michigan (August 2005). A couple of dogs entered a petting zoo and killed some animals and wounded several others. The two dogs were identified as "pit bulls", one dog was shot and killed by a zoo employee and the other was taken into custody. This story made national news because of course it is a "pit bull" story. The problem, it was NOT a pit bull, nor a pit bull mix."

    "Another case of mistaken iden y. Headlines after fatal attack " Pit bull kills baby", The TRUE story, it was an American Bulldog that killed the child. The families American Pit Bull Terrier, attempted to save the child by attacking the other dog in an attempt to get her to release the child according to the parent."

    "In Sterling Heights Michigan there was an incident involving a pit bull and a Rottie. According to police records the rottie lunged at them on scene and had to be killed. The Major TV news and print press of course wrote that the pit bull was the dog that attacked the officers and was killed at the scene. The small local paper, got the story right!"

    "Boxer mauls toddler, dog incorrectly identified as a Pit Bull : This one is the worst of the worst!! The headline read's Pit Bull, but you will find as you read the story it is correctly identified in the story as a Boxer."

    "Ottawa Sun, headlines read about a Pit Bull attacking to brothers. Many days later they find the dogs are believed to be Bull Mastiffs not pit bulls."

    "Council Bluffs, IA (who passed BSL based on stories like this one) Teen NOT bitten by pit bull as originaly said. When properly identified the dog is a Lab mix."

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    I'm sorry Melmart, did I bring to much proof to the table?

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    Don't be snide. I hear your points and I agree, the media hype can be misleading and overblown. But that doesn't change the fact that the majority of dog attacks are at the hands of pit bulls and there is no way for you to prove that any number of those are cases of mistaken iden y.

    You also claimed that in places where pits are banned, there was no change in the amount of bites. Yet you have failed to provide evidence of this.

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