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    Damn, this just gets better and better.

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    Vaccine center issues warning
    By Gregory Lopes
    THE WASHINGTON TIMES
    February 3, 2007

    The National Vaccine Information Center yesterday warned state officials to investigate the safety of a breakthrough cancer vaccine as Texas became the first state to make the vaccine mandatory for school-age girls.

    Negative side effects of Gardasil, a new Merck vaccine to prevent the sexually transmitted virus that causes cervical cancer, are being reported in the District of Columbia and 20 states, including Virginia. The reactions range from loss of consciousness to seizures.
    The National Vaccine Information Center is a website that is against vaccinations. All of their data and reports are about the dangers of vaccines. As far as I can tell, the main thing that they do is refer you to lawyers so that you can sue about vaccines causing your health problems.

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    You have no idea how a vaccine works according to your last post. It has nothing to do with a quick boost. Go read about a vaccine then come back and try comparing it to medication. They are NO where near the same.
    yawn

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    The funniest thing about the people complaining about this is when they complain that this is a cash cow for Merck. So? Its like the other thread when people were talking about the organization behind the child predator stings and how they were going to make money about this.

    How on Earth do people expect things to get done in a capitalistic society if there is no monetary reward at the end? Who gives a if someone makes money of off something? I mean really, wtf?

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    The National Vaccine Information Center is a website that is against vaccinations. All of their data and reports are about the dangers of vaccines. As far as I can tell, the main thing that they do is refer you to lawyers so that you can sue about vaccines causing your health problems.
    ok.......and.........

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    Yawn all you want, it is just ridiculous when you compare vaccines with medication because they are preventative care not treatment. It is funny that your initial post was telling people to take care of their bodies but lamenting their use of vaccines.

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    They lack credibility because they are pushing an angenda. 2 and 2?

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    I'm not counting on Rick Perry as the source of my information, are you?

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    Yawn all you want, it is just ridiculous when you compare vaccines with medication because they are preventative care not treatment. It is funny that your initial post was telling people to take care of their bodies but lamenting their use of vaccines.
    I'm deadset against medication and vaccination. I don't even take aspirin.

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    They lack credibility because they are pushing an angenda. 2 and 2?
    I could care less what they're for or against, but losing consciousness or having seizures after getting this vaccine is not safe to me.

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    Great. Then you've obviously highlighted yourself as a solid voice of reason. I suppose there could be great reasons behind your decision, but considering you have no idea what a vaccine is I'm pretty sure thats not the case.

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    Great. Then you've obviously highlighted yourself as a solid voice of reason. I suppose there could be great reasons behind your decision, but considering you have no idea what a vaccine is I'm pretty sure thats not the case.
    Wow. You are God.

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    I'm gonna have to rethink my attraction to older women now.

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    Um, they give the general appearance that they might be biased, which is something you tend to avoid (or at least make very well-known) when quoting them for information.

    Well, at least if you want your arguments or stories to be ethical.

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    Its like the other thread when people were talking about the organization behind the child predator stings and how they were going to make money about this.

    How on Earth do people expect things to get done in a capitalistic society if there is no monetary reward at the end? Who gives a if someone makes money of off something? I mean really, wtf?
    My complaint was more the ethical problems with paying sources, but that's just me.

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    but considering you have no idea what a vaccine is I'm pretty sure thats not the case.

    And probably not a lot about history, either. You know, when entire towns used to get wiped out by small pox. I wonder how many reported cases of that there are these days, post-vaccine? Some Big Pharma probably made a good mint on that one...those greedy bas s. Of course, if Viva went to school in the US, he's fully immunized...so he wouldn't have to worry about that, either.

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    Another little real-life example of how vaccines are so bad .... my grandfather got the mumps when my mother was a little girl and it left him sterile, 95% deaf, and basically mentally re ed for the rest of his adult life. I'm sure a dose of that bad, poison laden vaccine wouldn't have helped him.

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    Vioxx was FDA approved and thanks to that little pill we have a "head of mascot operations"
    I know many people whose lives are awful without Vioxx who would be more than willing to take the risk.

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    Why such uproar? Is it because this vaccine is to help a STD? Kids get tons and tons of vaccines now days. Why such hatred for this particular one?

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    This vaccine has been in development and testing for over 10 years.

    You know, it's risk vs. reward. The people arguing on the basis of politics are, as usual, worthless. But if you refuse to take a vaccine because there is a 1/20,000 of experiencing an adverse side effect, then that's just silly. Take a look a polio and smallpox.

    Polio: 10% mortality rate, 40% of paralysis
    Smallpox: 30% mortality rate

    Smallpox killed 400 million people worldwide from 1900-2000, an average rate of 2 million people per year. In the 18th century when vaccination experiments first started getting underway, 8-10% of an entire regions population would be killed off when a smallpox epidemic came through. The first inocculations had a mortality rate of only 2%. 2% is less than 10%. As a side effect from mass vaccination throughout the next 200 years, smallpox has been virtually eradicated from the planet. The last naturally occuring case of smallpox occured in 1975.

    2 million people a year do not die because of the mass inocculation of smallpox.

    I'm sure this is where boutons_ comes in and says that HPV is very different from polio and smallpox -- and he has a point. Cervical cancer is no where near the massive epidemic that smallpox is. Estimates say that 70% of all women will contract the HPV virus in their lifetime, with a tiny fraction going on to develop the cancer. There are 490,000 cases of cervical cancer worldwide caused by HPV, with around 80,000 cases worldwide of other cancers caused by HPV.

    Risk vs. reward. Because the actual HPV virus is so prevalent, I would suggest getting the vaccine. Because it is so widespread, the risk is real. You cannot realistically avoid the virus, all you can do is pray it doesn't develop into cancer. Because whether it develops into cancer depends on how fast the immune system removes it, children and the elderly would be at the highest risk, along with anyone that may have a weak immune system.

    Keep an eye on the risks and decide if it's worth it yourself.
    Take note though. A seizure or temporary blindness is just that, temporary. Developing cancer is a death sentence.

    By the way, no scientific studies have actually linked mercury in vaccines to autism. If you're going to use scare tactics, use facts, not speculation.

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    Developing cancer is a death sentence..
    Form what I've heard, cervical cancer is 98% curable if detected early?

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    Form what I've heard, cervical cancer is 98% curable if detected early?

    Yeah, but for all premenopausal women their fertility is rarely not destroyed in the treatment, and if not caught very early it can also result in having to have a hysterectomy, which causes it's own hormonal & physical problems you'd have to deal with the rest of your life.

    Not a good deal at all. I think the vaccine would be worth the risk.

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    If this vaccine was around 12 years ago I'd a taken it.

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