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    won't be any help against dallas or phoenix (i guess not a bad backup for duncan) but might possibly provide big minutes against teams like houston or miami.

    of course, none of this will matter if pop continues to play small ball and continues to not play any sort of consistent lineup.

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    The main goal of this trade was to get below the luxury tax.
    Spurs are still over the lux tax after this trade.

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    I think before the Spurs started losing every other game Williams was actually contributing.

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    If Ely were to get 20 mpg, I would expect him not to put up much more than 6 and 5. BUT I'd expect him not to let people body him up. I'd expect him to use that wingspan to block some shots. I'd expect him to be be another post option when Duncan is out (the Spurs don't have another one). I'd expect him not to get pushed out of rebounding position like Elson does and I'd expect him to not be afraid to get a little nasty if need be.

    That all being said, I have no idea how much the Spurs will use him.

    I know they wanted him in the past, but I don't know if that will translate to IR, primary backup big, or even ... dare I say ... starter.

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    If Ely were to get 20 mpg, I would expect him not to put up much more than 6 and 5. BUT I'd expect him not to let people body him up. I'd expect him to use that wingspan to block some shots. I'd expect him to be be another post option when Duncan is out (the Spurs don't have another one). I'd expect him not to get pushed out of rebounding position like Elson does and I'd expect him to not be afraid to get a little nasty if need be.
    If given the minutes, not out of the realm of possibility at all...

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    I knew this trade was gonna get Sequ back on the bandwagon.

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    He averaged 23 minutes a game last year.

    Give him that, and give oberto back to argentina.
    lol...

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    If Ely were to get 20 mpg, I would expect him not to put up much more than 6 and 5. BUT I'd expect him not to let people body him up. I'd expect him to use that wingspan to block some shots. I'd expect him to be be another post option when Duncan is out (the Spurs don't have another one). I'd expect him not to get pushed out of rebounding position like Elson does and I'd expect him to not be afraid to get a little nasty if need be.

    That all being said, I have no idea how much the Spurs will use him.

    I know they wanted him in the past, but I don't know if that will translate to IR, primary backup big, or even ... dare I say ... starter.
    Jezz,i can´t belive we were the defending world champs last year.did we get so average(or may I say y)team?

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    its oberto thats worthless, get a clue.
    Horry is worthless. He's a terrible defender and when pop goes with the stupid small ball lineup and uses horry as the big guy the spurs can't get a rebound. He has a decent game about every 10 or so games. If pop had replaced horry with nazr or rasho last year, the spurs would have won that series.

    Oberto in 19 min

    5 pts on 55%
    5 reb
    1assist

    horry in 18 min

    3.7 pts on 33.5% from 2 and 32% from 3
    3.6 reb
    1.7 assists

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    Horry = Second best bigman defender on the Spurs.

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    Horry is worthless. He's a terrible defender and when pop goes with the stupid small ball lineup and uses horry as the big guy the spurs can't get a rebound. He has a decent game about every 10 or so games. If pop had replaced horry with nazr or rasho last year, the spurs would have won that series.

    Oberto in 19 min

    5 pts on 55%
    5 reb
    1assist

    horry in 18 min

    3.7 pts on 33.5% from 2 and 32% from 3
    3.6 reb
    1.7 assists
    Finally somebody with some brain around here,I´m not saying Oberto is doing good,but he has average buckup C numbers.
    and honestly I don´t think Ely is no better tham bonner or elson either.

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    Horry = Second best bigman defender on the Spurs.
    I seriously hope that was just to illustrate how poor the interior defense is, because Horry's a dismally bad defender.

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    Jezz,i can´t belive we were the defending world champs last year.did we get so average(or may I say y)team?
    The Spurs have subpar bigmen.

    They had subpar bigmen last year too - that's why they had to go small (and got outrebounded/out defended and lost).

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    Horry = Second best bigman defender on the Spurs.
    tell me where you watched the Defending part of the 37 yrs old Horry,I wanna see it too.

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    Will Melvin dress up in silver & black tonight against the Nets?

    So why the did the Spurs pickup Jackie Butler if he's not getting any minutes?

    both are 6'10" 250-260 pounders

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    tell me where you watched the Defending part of the 37 yrs old Horry,I wanna see it too
    All of the games this year Horry has been.


    Quit acting like Oberto is worth a .


    Horry could do horrible and still contribute more than that long haired er.

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    I don't know if it's been asked or what and I doubt he will, but will Ely be in uniform tonight?

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    Will Melvin dress up in silver & black tonight against the Nets?

    So why the did the Spurs pickup Jackie Butler if he's not getting any minutes?

    both are 6'10" 250-260 pounders
    Hs not playing till next year........


    sighhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

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    I don't know if it's been asked or what and I doubt he will, but will Ely be in uniform tonight?
    No. Needs a physical.

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    Horry = Second best bigman defender on the Spurs.
    Which is sad becuase he sucks.

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    The Spurs have subpar bigmen.

    They had subpar bigmen last year too - that's why they had to go small (and got outrebounded/out defended and lost).
    Kori,I know many of the folks here don´t like Oberto and Elson,and they´re right,they´re not real good to be starters but they put average numbers for a decent buck up C.I didn´t like Nazr as well,But I liked rasho,I must say.
    but to say that a guy who averages 1.6 rpg can be a starter C or PF for the spurs,Its a little too much.
    But, like I said before,I hope it works out for the spurs.
    We´ll see by the end of the season,who was wright on who wasn´t

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    At the earliest, Ely could be in uniform against Detroit. But more likely, it won't be until after the All-Star break.

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    No. Needs a physical.
    Thanks Chump.

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    The Spurs have subpar bigmen.

    They had subpar bigmen last year too - that's why they had to go small (and got outrebounded/out defended and lost).
    their supposed subpar bigmen were still a better option than small ball. and ely isn't any better than nazr or rasho.

    the problem wasn't the bigmen, the problem was popovich because he chose the poorer strategy and continues to do so. the only hope the spurs have this year is that this trade somehow results in a change in popovich and his coaching mentality. nothing i've seen from him suggests that's the case, but we can hope.

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    Just because he instantly becomes the second best post player the Spurs have that does not mean it's a big improvement. That just means that the rest of the Spurs bigs really suck and Ely is just a decent player while the other Spurs bigs are just awful. So second best post player don't equal to a big improvement. Small improvement on Ely's ability of play, Yes.
    What kind of improvement were you expecting for someone who has bounced between #12 and #15 on our roster? KG?

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