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And how many sessions will it take with a shrink for you to get a ing clue?
So instead of criticizing people like Hardaway who FORCED him to live a lie with their ignorance, let's just go after the guy who decided to protect his physical and emotional well-being instead...?
And how many sessions will it take with a shrink for you to get a ing clue?
Hardaway didn't force him to do , not wanting to face consternation was his choice not Hardaway's, and while I would critisize Hardaway's beliefs, it is his God given rights to have those beliefs. And his cons utional right to say them.
jackie robinson? it's not like amaechi's breaking new ground here. he's not earl lloyd. the issue isn't the book, it's the phobia in professional sports.
I never said Hardaway did, I said people LIKE him who 'hate' gays and think they shouldn't even be allowed in the country.
I don't disagree that everyone has a right to their opinion. But so do I, and I think he is an ass. And I also think that your reasoning about why Lewinsky should have been able to cash in but not Amaechi is back asswards.
i don't think anyone is questioning his right to say the things he said. at least i'm not, and if that's what we're arguing about, we can squash that.
Glad to see ignorance is alive and well in the World today.
The last time I saw so many judgmental, uninformed bigots was when the KKK tried to have a demonstration on the Univ of Mich campus.
Alot of you need to learn something about tolerance and acceptance.
I honestly don't know what about you offends me more. Your phobia, or the fact that you feel it necessary to keep pummeling us with the same ing jokes/comments over and over again.
Lewinsky was a .......Amaechi is a with an agenda. Lewinsky cashed in on banging the president. Amaechi outed himself for money. If there was no book deal you think he does this?
The stigma of being a sexual male in this society is such that I doubt very many gay public figures would come out just for the heck of it.
Furthermore, even if Amaechi's book deal is every bit as whorish as Lewinski's, I fail to see what that has to do with Hardaway's comments. Is his opinion that gay people shouldn't be on this planet, or the matter-of-fact way in which he let that slip, somehow more acceptable because Amaechi's trying to make a buck?
What does his reasoning for 'coming out' and writing a book have to do with the extreme levels of phobia and bigotry being displayed in this thread?
And since when did Amaechi confide with you why he's outing himself?
Heaven forbid he's trying to offer support and confidence to the Gay community, making them realize that the 'sports arena' is not out of their reach simply because they're gay. This book will be an extremely inspirational bit of reading for tons of gay people.
It's more whorish the Lewinsky's. It has nothing to do with Hardaway's beliefs I don't know why you people keep bringing the book up.
So then why didnt he out himself the minute he decided to write a book?
Because of intellect. He wanted impact. A media blitz. It's smart marketing so that he can reach a broader group of people.
If you want to offer inspiration, and reach out to as many people as possible, would you make an announcement, then 1 year later write a book further explaining yourself? By the time the book is finally out, many fewer would read it as they already heard your pronouncement the year before.
Or would you use the ESPN's of the world, have press conferences and interviews, and back it up with a book? Guarantee, this way he's making a bigger impact, and creating more dialogue. Which is his goal.
even if it's a complete money grab,
What does his reasoning for 'coming out' and writing a book have to do with the extreme levels of phobia and bigotry being displayed in this thread?
The lack of troll detection in this thread is sad.
STOP feeding them, you guys. Buck is obviously just playing the idiot. STOP responding to them so we can have a real discussion.
In the meantime, read this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll
Sadly Buck Rogers isn't even a troll. He actually believes what he's saying and has been gay hating/bashing among other things here for years.
His posts are derisive enough to be considered trollish, even if he isn't intentionally trolling. He's attempting to piss people off and deliberately contradict them, which can still be troll behavior.
Believe me, reading Fark.com for a couple years... you see all kinds of trolls on that site. This guy is no different, and he doesn't even deserve the time for a response. He's obviously not here for civilized discourse, he just wants to bandy his ignorance around in hopes of annoying us all. Nothing we say is going to make a damn bit of difference to him one way or the other.
They need remakes of fables like the All Dogs go to heaven, 100 dalmations, Lion King etc that depict some gay animals, that way we don't have anymore close minded a-holes like this walking our planet 15 years from now.
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Why doens't the NBA and network affiliates that procure the services of former athletes as commentators, etc., require them to go through sensitivity training/ orientation to prevent outbursts like this? It's not like all of these athletes have PHD's.
Tim was ignorant to say those things, but it could have been prevented.
Yes I believe gays are born that way, just like I believe in evolution, gravity and the sun rises in the east and sets in the west. And even if they choose to be gay, who cares? What goes on in private between consenting adults is no concern of mine. You're either a troll or a re .
hahahaha youre gay for saying that. Must have been some freak of nature that your were born man. Hey some people have sex with animals, but then again i guess they were just born that way... hahaha
how about christianity ... that way you can abstain from any debate regarding publishing and translation. Second, why are people blowing what Tim said out of proportion! Weve all said and used the word "hate" millions of times in our lives with as much emphasis or less than what weve seen recently. Its just that he had a microphone in face when he said it.
...and give up! never!
still waiting for that day when theyll be provoked to talk mavs without there arms being twisted.
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