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  1. #151
    redirkulous mavsfan1000's Avatar
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    Kobe: 3 rings
    Dirk: 0 rings


    ...You might as well.
    Shaq 4 rings
    Kobe 3 rings. lol

  2. #152
    In Limbo mardigan's Avatar
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    Dirk on court/off court +11.5/-2.7. Kobe on court/off court +1.9/-6.8. This is proof thanks to 82games.com on who is MVP worthy. No one has a better on court/off court than Dirk that plays as many minutes.
    Your making my point for me that Kobe has no team, look how much they get outscored by when he isnt on the court

  3. #153
    In Limbo mardigan's Avatar
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    And? What's that have to do with anything? Jordan kept shooting at or near 50% most his career. He started falling of at the end for sure but in his prime he was a 50% shooter. Jordan is the greatest player of all-time.
    HE ONLY SHOT OVER 50% 6 TIMES IN HIS CAREER OUT OF 15. THAT IS NOT MOST OF A CAREER

  4. #154
    Che cazzo stai dicendo? DisgruntledLionFan#54,927's Avatar
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    HE ONLY SHOT OVER 50% 6 TIMES IN HIS CAREER OUT OF 15. THAT IS NOT MOST OF A CAREER

    It's actually 8 if you round up his two seasons at .495.

  5. #155
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    Shaq 4 rings
    Kobe 3 rings. lol
    Then Shaq>Kobe>>>Dirk

  6. #156
    In Limbo mardigan's Avatar
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    It's actually 8 if you round up his two seasons at .495.
    Well I didnt

  7. #157
    redirkulous mavsfan1000's Avatar
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    Then Shaq>Kobe>>>Dirk
    Well considering they were on the SAME TEAM I think you can get why they were dominant. They should have 5 les together though and possibly more if they could've gotten along.

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    Ok at first I enjoyed joining the troll efforts from Lebomb but truthfully it is remarkable what Kobe is doing right now. Good enough?

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    I say this as a Mavs fan that cut my teeth watching the Showtime Lakers chew up and spit out the Aguirre/Blackman Mavericks. Then I witnessed the nineties where the Lakers won something insane like 45 out of 50 against us, many of those Shaq and Kobe totally dominating Shawn Bradley and Cedric Ceballos. I HATE the purple and gold. And yet if you can't accept what Kobe is doing as amazing, then you're not a basketball fan, pure and simple. I hate to admit it, and I hate that it's true, but I actually kind of LIKE Kobe, and I can't say that about any other Lakers besides Magic, Derek Harper and Sam Perkins.

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    redirkulous mavsfan1000's Avatar
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    HE ONLY SHOT OVER 50% 6 TIMES IN HIS CAREER OUT OF 15. THAT IS NOT MOST OF A CAREER
    I said at or NEAR. He was very close to 50% a few years so than it is most of his career. I'm logging off as I've posted too much on this thread. I'm getting a headache.

  11. #161
    In Limbo mardigan's Avatar
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    I hated Kobe when he was with Shaq more than any player Ive hated for a long time. But you only hate the really good ones. I hated him because I knew that every shot that he took had a good chance to go in. As soon as Shaq left and the Lakers dropped off, I stopped hating Kobe and started appreciating how good he was. Now I hate Dirk more than any player since Malone and Stockton. You only hate the good ones

  12. #162
    In Limbo mardigan's Avatar
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    Jordan shot at 50% for most his career though so Kobe still has a ways to go.
    Go troll someplace else

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    Tim Duncan #1 TheNextGen's Avatar
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    Dirk's percentages are still better. Kobe scoring a lot on a bad team is not as impressive as him scoring a lot on a good team.


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    Tim Duncan #1 TheNextGen's Avatar
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    Kobe's team isn't that bad off. You've heard of Odom and Walton? How about Turiaf.
    HAHAH COMEDY at its best!!

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    Shaq 4 rings
    Kobe 3 rings. lol
    this proves taht Shaq and Kobe has more rings then Dirk. is that your point?

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    Saytowns Fawtbox King lebomb's Avatar
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    Snickering at this thread.

    I still say, give the green light to the top players in the league......30-40 shots a game and you will see a load of over 50pt games.

    This is JMHO.....so hate on me if you must.

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    Saytowns Fawtbox King lebomb's Avatar
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    I just saw that V. Carter went 13-20 from the field and had 11-13 from the stripe tonight for 40pts......that is equally or more impressive than Kobes 29 and 37 shot attempts to hit 50 and 60 IMHO. If V Carter got to put up another 10 shots, he would have had 55 or 60pts......its all about touches. You get 30-40 shots in a game, you better hit 50.

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    Saytowns Fawtbox King lebomb's Avatar
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    Im gone now........carry on.

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    http://www.nba.com/games/20061222/LALNJN/boxscore.html

    Funny ... the last time Vince Carter took 30 shots in a game, he scored 33 points.

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    Believe. Mark Blount's Avatar
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    i think i scored 87 in a rec basketball league in 9th grade

  21. #171
    Saytowns Fawtbox King lebomb's Avatar
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    http://www.nba.com/games/20061222/LALNJN/boxscore.html

    Funny ... the last time Vince Carter took 30 shots in a game, he scored 33 points.

    OK dumbass......lets point out one game. I can find a BUNCH of Kobe ugly ass games.....it just everyone falls over when he scores 50, but took over 30 shots and didnt get but 2 assists...... that! That is green light city and any star player can do that if given the opportunity.

    I know someone who was in the NBA for 10yrs and he said there is a handful of players that get the green light to shoot at will.

    Kobe is one of them mu as.

  22. #172
    Saytowns Fawtbox King lebomb's Avatar
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    Ya know what I really dont care anymore........Kobe is #1




  23. #173
    Dragon style JamStone's Avatar
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    http://www.nba.com/playerfile/kobe_b...ame_stats.html

    Kobe Bryant has taken 30 or more shots in six games this season. In five of those games, he scored 50 or more points. In the other game, he scored 40 points. In those six games, he shot 112-224 from the field, exactly 50% from the field, for a perimeter player.

    I'm glad you finally can agree how great Kobe is.

  24. #174
    Spur-taaaa TDMVPDPOY's Avatar
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    this guys is nothin more than a stat padder

    he has games where he scores alot and post no assists, then you see him in the next game where he scores jack , but padd up the reb + asst stats to bring it up to avg stats...

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    Murdering Prostitutes Findog's Avatar
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    this guys is nothin more than a stat padder
    No, you're wrong. Almost everytime Kobe goes off, the Lakers win. That validates his strategy, especially considering they got nothing outside of Odom and Walton. Bynum has shown some promise, but that's about it. Even Tex Winter, consummate team guy that he is, admits Kobe scoring at will represents their best chance to win.

    Kobe is simply the most complete offensive player in the game today, and certainly among the best of alltime. I would say he's pretty much approaching Jordan territory if he hasn't caught up to him already. Kobe is the only guy routinely trapped and double-teamed 35 feet out. He can drive as well as Wade, AI or Vince, but his ability to hit a contested 35 footer means opposing defenses have to respect his perimeter shooting almost as soon as he crosses the midcourt line. All this "makes his teammates better" is just a mirage and overblown. The Lakers had no business being in a seventh game against Phoenix, but Kobe got them there by out-Nashing Nash. Kobe has shown he can be a creator, it's just a matter of whether or not his teammates are competent enough to execute. When they're not, Kobe has to take matters into his own hands. It's as simple as that.

    The other thing you have to keep in mind is that it's probably not easy for those guys to play with Kobe, and it's not easy for Kobe to play with guys that are significantly less talented than him. If you've ever watched a Jason Kidd team, one thing you'll notice is that Kidd could easily average 18-22 assists per game instead of the 11 that he gets if his teammates had the same kind of court vision that he does. He sees things way before they develop and sometimes his teammates aren't always in the right spot to receive a pass because they don't have that sixth sense on the court that Kidd does. I think it's kinda like that now for Kobe. It wasn't a problem when he had Shaq down low along with excellent role players.
    Last edited by Findog; 03-24-2007 at 10:57 PM.

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