Bennett Salvatore

[dbestpro]

Did you guys watch the same game? The Mavs got no calls at all up until the fourth...The Warriors lost their composure and end of story.

Also, I think we all know Stern hates the Mavs (at least Cuban).

I was pulling for the Spurs to take out the Nuggets, but why do 99% of Spurs fans hate the Mavs so much? Did you hate them that much before last years playoffs?

I always root for Texas teams, with Spurs being ahead of the Rockets on my radar, but I have never understood why all the hate...

The Mav's due to the hipocritical actions of Cuban and their fans is the last team on the earth that deserves a ring. Every play is a foul on the other team. Your comments prove that even when you have been given a zebra served game on a silver platter you still think it was deserved.

[Obstructed_View]

Obstructed View -

I don't have a problem with Baron's second technical. It was the first, the confrontation that was basically Jason Terry and Diop against Buckets, and somehow in it all Baron Davis gets a technical, but Terry walks away scott free.

But again, if you've been paying attention all these years you would have known going into this game that 1) Mavs would get at least 30 FTs (they got 43) and Bennett would show up to make sure it went in favor of Dallas.

Sad thing is Dallas had taken the lead and momentum at that point where the refs interjected themselves in the outcome, but now everyone who was watching knows what a farce the game turned out to be.

I hear what you are saying to a certain point. Seems to me that the Warriors just kind of lost their poise once it seemed pretty clear that they weren't going to be able to get over the hump. They complained after a lot of whistles that were legitimate, too. You know I hate the Mavs more than anyone on this board, but when you lose momentum with the refs, it's probably best to just try to play through it. A couple of the Warriors just looked like they were happy with a split and ready to call it a night. Of course, now they have an excuse for losing a game they weren't going to win.

Yeah, I'm not sure how Terry got away without a T, but they got Diop, who was the first to retaliate. To be fair though, the Warriors did start it. You CANNOT swat at a guy that late after the whistle. And Jack saw a scrap brewing and threw himself into it; he of all people in this league should know better than to do that. He was going to get a T no matter what.

I'm not convinced that the league would want the crybaby Mavs and their crybaby owner to win the series enough to force the calls their way, even though the Mavs got the benefit of them. It's part of playing aggressively at home, too. The Warriors didn't play very well, suddenly couldn't get rebounds and actually out-complained the Mavs so they weren't going to make friends with the officials. I'm really surprised that Davis lasted as long as he did. If they'd concentrated a little harder on playing instead of ing they might have had a chance to put a stranglehold on the series.

[Obstructed_View]

I haven't read this thread yet but what are the Mavs now with Salvatore as a ref in the playoffs? They have to be ridiculously good. Salvatore turns games into free throw contests (which is a statistical fact, so Mav Fan can't say otherwise), and the Mavs have historically been a very good free throw shooting team.

Salvatore games off the top of my head ... Game 1 in 2003 versus the Spurs (Mavs get 50 free throws), Game 3 in 2006 versus the Spurs (Mavs get 50 free throws) and now this game where the Mavs get 43 free throws.

If the NBA wanted to silence conspiracy theorists, a good place to start would be to not put Salvatore as an official in a must win game for the Mavs.

Yep. Probably just a random draw to get that crew but you'd think the league would be cognizant of it, because it does look bad.

[Obstructed_View]

Jack was just running over to the commotion to get his players out of there.

Until some more time passes, Jack is gasoline in situations like that and everyone knows it. He should have been smarter than that. For a second that was the same guy who ran into the stands throwing punches at random fans.

[E20]

I agree with Obstructed_View. The shuffle in the begining the officiating was just plain BAD. People who didn't deserve techs got them (Diop/SJax). The people who should have gotten techs were: Barnes, Terry, Harris, Davis.

Barnes for starting, Terry for escalating it, Harris for pulling on Barnes jeresey outside of play, and Davis for overreacting to it.

[E20]

Also, I thought Baron's and SJax's second T's were plausiable, they intended to aggravate the refs which was there intention and got the boot, sure their officiating was bad, but you can't do that to a ref.

Also, I though Terry got hit with a T as well, Baron and Terry got hit with a double T according to the TNT analysts.

[phyzik]

Did you guys watch the same game? The Mavs got no calls at all up until the fourth...The Warriors lost their composure and end of story.

Also, I think we all know Stern hates the Mavs (at least Cuban).

I was pulling for the Spurs to take out the Nuggets, but why do 99% of Spurs fans hate the Mavs so much? Did you hate them that much before last years playoffs?

I always root for Texas teams, with Spurs being ahead of the Rockets on my radar, but I have never understood why all the hate...

At least I can admit when the Spurs get a blowjob from the refs, I cant speak for every Spurs fan, but It seems every Dallas fan on this board... no matter how "unbiased" they try to make themselves seem... always have something to about the refs. regardless if its lopsided in the mavs favor or not...

Thats just PART of where the "hate" comes from.

Every fan wants the ref on their side, there is no denying that, but to have the ref on your side and STILL about it is ing asinine.

I wanted Dallas to win, but at the same time during this game I desperately wanted them to lose because of the horrendous officiating. I dont want that in the WCF if we face off... for either team. Not again.

[mavsfan1000]

Actually I'm pretty about the way tonight played out.

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[Shank]

Cute thread.

[T Park]

Typical maverick fan reaction

WE EARNED THOSE CALLS!!!

[mavsfan1000]

Typical maverick fan reaction

WE EARNED THOSE CALLS!!!

It's called pounding the ball inside and driving. Typical spurs fans ing about the calls of every mavs game.

[T Park]

Pounding the ball inside?

WTF would you pansy asses know about that.

[Findog]

I haven't read this thread yet but what are the Mavs now with Salvatore as a ref in the playoffs? They have to be ridiculously good. Salvatore turns games into free throw contests (which is a statistical fact, so Mav Fan can't say otherwise), and the Mavs have historically been a very good free throw shooting team.

Salvatore games off the top of my head ... Game 1 in 2003 versus the Spurs (Mavs get 50 free throws), Game 3 in 2006 versus the Spurs (Mavs get 50 free throws) and now this game where the Mavs get 43 free throws.

If the NBA wanted to silence conspiracy theorists, a good place to start would be to not put Salvatore as an official in a must win game for the Mavs.

Salvatore was part of the crew for Game 5 of the 2006 Finals -- you know, the one where Wade shot 25 FTs, where Wade got bailed out on a phantom call by you guessed it, Bennett Salvatore, who was standing at midcourt. There were two refs closer to the play than him -- not only was it not his call to make, but he butchered it. He's a home-cooking ref, not a Mavs ref. If Salvatore shows up to ref a Spurs home game, you should thank your lucky stars - "We're not losing tonight."

Salvatore is just as responsible as Wade for us not winning the le last year.

[Despot]

It's called pounding the ball inside and driving. Typical spurs fans ing about the calls of every mavs game.

[ponky]

SEVEN pages of SPURS fans ing about officiating in a game that their team isn't even a part of....simply incredible....timvp leading the stats of mavs' games in relation to refs officiating as usual...you must be related to cuban

[Shank]

Pounding the ball inside?

WTF would you pansy asses know about that.

Check the shot selection and then question what happens when a team playing a bigger lineup decides to take it inside against a team playing smallball. The Warriors defensive aggressiveness combined with their lack of size hurt them when the Mavs made a concerted effort to pound away. That equals fouls. Are you saying that none of the trips Dallas made to the line tonight were legitimate? We're talking about Golden State here. They're not to be confused with some defensive juggernaut.

[ponky]

Pounding the ball inside?

WTF would you pansy asses know about that.

ask devin harris, he could probably help you out...he did some of that in the second round last season...still a bit wet behind the ears but he got it done

[ponky]

Salvatore was part of the crew for Game 5 of the 2006 Finals -- you know, the one where Wade shot 25 FTs, where Wade got bailed out on a phantom call by you guessed it, Bennett Salvatore, who was standing at midcourt. There were two refs closer to the play than him -- not only was it not his call to make, but he butchered it. He's a home-cooking ref, not a Mavs ref. If Salvatore shows up to ref a Spurs home game, you should thank your lucky stars - "We're not losing tonight."

Salvatore is just as responsible as Wade for us not winning the le last year.

timvp loves to obsess over the officiating when it comes to the dallas mavericks, just as bad as cuban

[Kori Ellis]

I never about the officiating, but I was embarrassed for the officiating crew in the 4th.

There were a lot of phantom calls and late calls.

[THE SIXTH MAN]

He's a home-cooking ref, not a Mavs ref. If Salvatore shows up to ref a Spurs home game, you should thank your lucky stars - "We're not losing tonight."

Salvatore and Nies reffed our last game. Nuggets win to the line 25 times and the Spurs went 10.

Salvatore is just as responsible as Wade for us not winning the le last year.

[Despot]

Pounding the ball inside?

WTF would you pansy asses know about that.

yeah, the last time I can remember a Mav pounding a ball resulted in Jason Terry getting suspended.

[Fillmoe]

The City was robbed today.... the mavs went to the line 43 times. The Warriors were driving a lot and went to the line 27 times. On a play where 2 players swiped at the ball after the whistle had been blown, jason ferry got in the face of Matt Barnes and Baron Davis but didn't receive a tech. Instead they T'd up Diop, Jackson and Davis. Jackson and Davis were later ejected. Thank you refs.

[ponky]

I never about the officiating, but I was embarrassed for the officiating crew in the 4th.

There were a lot of phantom calls and late calls.

yeah i know, it's usually the same few people always talking about officiating...anyway, are you referring to the mavs/nuggets game with the fourth quarter comment? salvatore may be a bad ref and there were too many whistles in general (27 for the warriors as well) but he is hardly partial to the mavericks. i just think it's silly for fans to act like certain refs are partial to teams...for every game that they may have whistled in favor of a certain team, there's a game where it went the other way and like the other person said, seems like salvatore is a home-cooking ref...not always but a lot of the time

[E20]

Why does everybody think the Warriors are from San Francisco? They used to be, but now their new location is Oakland. They play in Oakland and they're not called the San Francisco Warriors, the're called the Golden State(California) Warriors, so what gives? The Warriors are from Oakland.

[timvp]

SEVEN pages of SPURS fans ing about officiating in a game that their team isn't even a part of....simply incredible....timvp leading the stats of mavs' games in relation to refs officiating as usual...you must be related to cuban

I'm using Cuban's own stats. The Mavs win 90% of the time Salvatore refs a game in the playoffs. Salvatore's crews call more fouls than any other crew in the league by a wide margin.

Which part of that isn't factual?