I actually think the Spurs play better as the hated. Go back to the Phoenix series, they seemed to relish being the bad guys. Same for Denver.
Agreed. To expand, if anything's ruining the series, it's east coast ESPN guys who didn't even stay up to watch the game repeating what they hear other people say without checking their facts. The rest of us can enjoy good basketball, because that's what this series has been, at least during the times both teams choose to show up.
Drawing an offensive foul on a 3 point attempt...that's probably one of the more rare calls in NBA history (and to anticipate Jazz Fan, yes, it was warranted).Horry has performed 2 of the worst, most blatant flops I've ever seen in my life during this series so far.
If this is a ruined series, tough play where the whistle mostly isn't blowing for minor to moderate contact but is for obvious hack jobs, I'll take it over a full blown whistle fest any day.
Horry caught Millsap in the chin trying to draw a foul on the three; luckily he got called for the offensive foul. Who does he think he is; Kobe?
As for obstructed view, ESPN broadcasts and programs suck. Period. You know as well as I do.
Right... cause fisher didn't stick his shoulder into him at all right
Manu didn't even hit the ground... het stumbled a bitl and regained his balance. You should be pised at Derik AKA WWJD Fisher for playing like a rookie.
I'm not excusing fisher, I'm saying Manure looked absolutely ridiculous flailing like a fool in that moment. What an ass; seriously. Aside from anything Fisher did, flailing like that was just unreal and silly. Makes the game look ridiculous.
The Jazz looked pretty ridiculous hacking Ginobili and then whining about it as he drove repeatedly to the rim.
I'm not disputing Utah looking ridiculous in any sense; just waiting to see if any Spurs homers here on the board will admit that Manure's flop was lame.
Seems like all the folks here wanna do is pull the old red herring. (google it if you don't know what it means.)
Translation: come to my world where the Jazz have never flopped and their smells like fresh flowers on the foothills of the Rockies.
Manu got hit. Fisher flopped just before Manu's layup and then lined up Manu and took a shot at him. Manu just took Fisher's shoulder square and tried not to hit the ground. Fisher then flopped again after he hit Manu. Sorry our guy is smarter than your guy, but your attempts to call anyone other than Fisher unreal and silly is going to fall on deaf ears around here, especially if you are going to accuse people of being "spurs homers" if they don't agree with your biased and factually incorrect take.
Yea, if were talking about when Fisher bumped him then yea, it was pretty lame. But my whole thing is that Fisher innitiated the contact, he clearly went out of his way to put his body on Manu's, and that was pretty lame as well. He over-reacted, but who cares, a lot of NBA players would have done the same thing in that situation
Since the Spurs got, what, four free throws out of it? I'd say it was pretty ing smart.
So basically the Jazz were beat at their own game in that sequence.
for real!
I thought it was chicken that Sloan checked out of the game early. Pinning the blame for the loss on the refs is no way to prep for a road elimination game.
I was disappointed in Sloan. He picked two of the most obvious plays to whine about and got himself tossed with arguments as logical as Amare's "I was going to check in" bull .
Fisher shouldn't have hit Manu and given him a chance to sell it.
jazzfan needs to recognize.
Manu ruined last year's WC(semi)F, that's for sure.
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Yeah, he ruined it by watching it on television with all of the other Spurs.
because of one stupid foul
Fish was an idiot, no doubt. Manure's flop was really overstated, though. Honestly, it topped all flops of the night.
The top flop of the night was the Fish flop right before his 1st T where he flew backwards on virtually no contact and gave up a layup. If I were Boozer I would have gotten in his face and told him to stay the up and man up on D. That flop and his idiotic "bump" after the whistle is what sunk the Jazz for good in the game. Blame him.
manu flops and everyone knows it. We sit here and argue it in these forums but thats said by the PLAYERS in this league as well as the fans. You wonder why you hear it everywhere and not just here? Hmm maybe its true dont you think? Besides, you people here weant to give him a red badge of courage just because he takes his hits during the game ... manu initiates about 90% of all the contact he recieves during the game. thats why hes effective. its also that recklessness that allows him to get by defenders. He tries to initiate the contact. When that fails he tries to draw contact. When that fails, he throws himself into and waits for a whistle. Billups is just as bad as anyone in the league at this.
Its the way it works. yes the man is seriously skilled, but its the reckless abandon he plays with that makes playing against him that much worse. (and also makes him very inconsistent)
and seriously we can all point to an instance or two where he deservedly took a hard foul. But did you also see that manu led with his knee into okur? thats why okur didnt hit him with his body and is also why manu was off balance and fell. the tnt crew pointed out as much during the telecast. you can make a picture show what you want, but its not the whole play.
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