If the only hope you have left is to irritate a handful of Spurs fans as they make their way downtown for the NBA championship parade you will never get to experience, I think you should make a date with a shower rod.
Best thing I've heard from a Suns fan in a long time.
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-Mars
If the only hope you have left is to irritate a handful of Spurs fans as they make their way downtown for the NBA championship parade you will never get to experience, I think you should make a date with a shower rod.
It was a bad situation the teams were certainly evenly matched. I mean the Spurs lets face it blew game 4. They badly outplayed the Suns for most of the game and then with 2 min to play choked away the lead. Horry did what he did and he was wrong no question about it but Amare needed to stay put and he didn't.
Unfortunately that ego blew up way to much when they started playing the way they did during the season with him. Perhaps as he gets a bit older, he will become a bit more modest and just dominate, but who knows if he has it in him, right now, doesnt look like it.
Stats don't lie. The Suns are a gimmick:
Defense wins championships:
Rank in EFG% of every NBA champion since the ABA/NBA merger in 76-77:
05-06: Miami 10th
04-05: San Antonio 1st
03-04: Detroit 2nd
02-03: San Antonio 2nd
01-02: LA Lakers 2nd
00-01: LA Lakers 13th
99-00: LA Lakers 1st
98-99: San Antonio 1st
97-98: Chicago 5th
96-97: Chicago 3rd
95-96: Chicago 6th
94-95: Houston 7th
93-94: Houston 3rd
92-93: Chicago 15th
91-92: Chicago 9th
90-91: Chicago 13th
89-90: Detroit 1st
88-89: Detroit 2nd
87-88: LA Lakers 9th
86-87: LA Lakers 6th
85-86: Boston 1st
84-85: LA Lakers 5th
83-84: Boston 2nd
82-83: Philadelphia 4th
81-82: LA Lakers 10th
80-81: Boston 3rd
79-80: LA Lakers 7th
78-79: Seattle 1st
77-78: Washington 10th
76-77: Portland 7th
Average Rank: 5.4
Phoenix ranked 12th this year in EFG%. So in the last 30 years, only three teams have finished the year with a worse EFG% and won the le.
Twice it was the Bulls during their first 3-peat and the 00-01 Lakers who steamrolled through the Playoffs, losing only one game.
Spurs are ranked 2nd in EFG% this year while the Cavs are ranked 3rd. Interestingly enough both teams are in the Finals.
The Suns defense is more comparable to teams like the Nets and Raptors than to the likes of the Spurs, Pistons, Mavs, Cavs, Bulls, etc. Phoenix is quite fortunate to have received the Lakers in the first round(one of the worst defensive teams in the league). If they had played the Nuggets instead I'd give Denver a fair shot at knocking them out.
Once Dallas gets over their choking problem and Utah finally gets a reliable SG I can see them having a better shot at the championship next year than the Suns who will forever be a regular season team.
I completely agree with this all. Unfortunately, we will never know what may have happened if no conflict occurred. As a Suns fan I can only hope of one thing, that this makes them even hungrier next year and not let this be a couple year hangover. It would certainly motivate me to improve seeing the Spurs with 4 trophies.
^Whoever wrote that is a dumbass. The Spurs are definitely a better team than Phoenix and they outplayed them in their series, but there is no secret concept that wins championships, it's just outscoring their opponents. I'd pick the Suns over every team not named San Antonio in a seven game series.
What should they do to improve? Change it to "6 seconds or less"?
Thank you for all of this, although I really don't care about it all as I've seen it a couple times. I call you a jackass because you really believe yourself when you say the Nuggets or Jazz would have even competed with the Suns. Come that time of the season, there was 1 team, and ONLY 1 team to stop them, and it was the one who beat them. Had they gotten by the Spurs somehow, i'm pretty sure most reasonable fans of even the SPurs believe the Suns would be about to host the Cavs and destroy them much like the Spurs are about to.
They can't just be happy with "scoreboard," because of that damn asterisk. They've got to go the extra mile and claim the Suns are a "gimmick" rather than the 2nd-best team in the league.
I'm very happy with "scoreboard."
Exactly, including the Mavs who the Suns dominated the last meeting and the 2 overtimes and final minute of the 4th quarter the time before.
If, today, the Suns fired Mike D'Antoni and hired Jeff Van Gundy as their new head coach, they would be the overwhelming favorites to win the 2007-08 NBA championship.
But they won't do that, and so they're going to keep falling short.
The second best team is actually Cleveland.
Any basketball fan worth their salt knows that Phoenix is the NBA's version of the old NFL run'n'shoot offense. It always put up a ton of points, but never won jack after December.
Oh, and the plaque for second place is down the hall in the ladies room. You're welcome to claim it at any time.
This I totally agree with. D'Antoni is an absolute whiney of a head coach, and it shows in our inability to execute without Steve Nash.
Please....stop this ...in less than 24hs we start the finals....
Actually, fast break/open court offenses have had success winning championships. Basketball is pretty much unique out of the other major sports, in that defensive half court basketball has become more en vogue recently, where as fast break offense was more "old school".
Just posting cold hard facts. The Suns will always be a gimmick until they can prove otherwise. Too bad their window's closing fast as the Mavs won't choke every year and the Jazz are getting better every season. Rockets are still there, Nuggets will be extra motivated next year, and Oden and Durant just hopped into the Western Conference. Not to mention the salary that Phoenix is going to have to deal with.
We're bored. Let us pick on this little head for a while.
There will still be that one team in the NFL that couldn't stop anyone but still won, and that is the 99 Rams. Although defense wins championships, there are still those few times when the offense just overcomes.
Any track & field fan knows the Indianapolis Colts are the reincarnation of the old NFL run & shoot offense. He's great recruiter, but Mack Brown will never win in January.![]()
A Suns fan I agree with! Can't we ban all the idiots and just keep this guy!
-Mars
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