Why are people still bothering with the Suns fans? I already posted stats earlier proving their gimmick style will never get them to the Finals, let alone a championship. Every team in the West is getting better and focusing more and more on defense while the Suns's window is closing fast.
The only team they've beaten convincingly in the last few playoffs is the Lakers, one of the worst defensive teams in the league. If the salary cap doesn't kill em next year the Spurs/Mavs/Jazz/Nuggets/Rockets will.
It's no coincidence that the worst MVP in the last few decades plays on their team. They're nothing more than overhyped media darlings. They'll be back to being a lottery team 2/3 years from now.
Given that this year it took cheap shots and bogus suspensions to keep the Suns out of the Finals, unless next year David Stern decides to suspend Steve Nash from the playoffs because he doesn't like his haircut or something, you'll be eating crow as the Suns storm their way to the 2008 le and begin the revolution away from boring-ass thugsketball.
Suns never had an honest shot at the Finals anyway. It was either going to be the Spurs or Jazz. If the And1 Suns made it to the Conference Finals the Jazz would have handled them in 6 with DWill and Boozer owning Nash and Stoudewhiner in every way possible.
This year was the Suns only chance and Stoeudewhiner blew it. Next year the Jazz will only get better once they find a competent 2-guard and the Mavs might have a shot once they learn to get over their choking problem. The Suns defense will never be championship calibre which is why they'll continue to be knocked out in the 2nd round. , the Nuggets would have taken them in 6 or 7 but the Suns were fortunate enough to play one of the worst defensive teams in the first round.
Face it. Stern hates run & gun.
But seriously, Suns play better D than Mavs. If any team is "Done", it's the Mavs, they set themselves up so they can beat the Spurs... and nobody else.
Suns will be number 1 next year, and Spurs will beat them in the playoffs.
Maybe this time, they'll be smart enough not to worry with Horry.
If the Suns were so good, they could have beaten the Spurs in game 1 at home or beaten an undermanned Spurs team in game 6 with a rested NBA first teamer. Now they get to try next year without Marion and maybe without Amare. Maybe Steve Nash will learn not to flop so much because he fools his teammates with it. You should have seen Amare lose his mind when Nash played "got your nose" with him.
Suns D is not better than the Mavs. Mavs just have a big time choking problem. Otherwise their D is better than most team's in the league. Even the Nuggets have better defense than the And1 Suns.
The Mavs play better D than the Suns, they just stopped playing it some time in March.
The game came in at a 9 share rating which is higher than the Mav's Heat series of last year at 8.5. Know your facts.
And who says regular season doesn't matter?
When it mattered, the Suns played better D than _allas...
which really is not that shocking.
tell the blazers to do something about it.
When it mattered? The Suns first round opponent the last two years were the Lakers...one of the worst defensive teams in the league. How hard is it to beat a one man team with no post presence whatsoever. If the Suns had the Nuggets in the first round Nugs would have advanced in 6...maybe 7.
And who says regular season doesn't matter?
When it mattered, the Suns played better D than _allas...
which really is not that shocking.
When exactly was that? Against the Lakers?
And who says regular season doesn't matter?
When it mattered, the Suns played better D than _allas...
which really is not that shocking.
You are wrong. But that's not surprising.
Last year's game 1 had a 14 share. The 8.5 you are quoting was the average household rating over all 6 games.
The household rating measures how many total households were tuned in. The share represents the percentage of those watching TV that were tuned in to a particular program.
Here are the ratings for Game 1's in recent years:
2007 ABC Spurs-Cavaliers 5.3/9
2006 ABC Mavericks-Heat 7.8/14
2005 ABC Spurs-Pistons 7.2/13
2004 ABC Lakers-Pistons 9.8/17
2003 ABC Spurs-Nets 6.4/11
2002 NBC Lakers-Nets 10.6/20
2001 NBC Lakers-76ers 12.4/23
2000 NBC Lakers-Pacers 10.5/18
1999 Spurs-Knicks 11.5/21
ABC's best Finals ratings were lower than NBC's worst in the post-Jordan era. And now, in a highly hyped series featuring the chosen one, their ratings not only are down 29% from last year, they are down 26% from the 2005 with less star power, and down 17% from the 2003 series which had no draw whatsoever for the casual fan.
TNT got a 4.9 for Game 6 of the Eastern Conference Finals. On cable. Cleveland against Detroit. ABC, major broadcast network, for the Finals, can only muster a 5.3
While some of this has to do with the country's disinterest in the Spurs, the data point to the spectacular failure of ABC/ESPN to broadcast the NBA in anything approaching a competent fashion.
The NBA's strategy of putting more games on cable assumed that the reduced number of broadcast games would draw more viewers. What David Stern & Co. did not count on was the utter inability of its new broadcast partner to promote the game. I suspect there will be a new strategy for the next TV deal, that will involve a different broadcast partner.
Really?
Suns > Mavs > Nuggets.
Why are the Suns better than the Mavs in your world?
partially true -- another factor to consider is the incredible layoff between games. ridiclous and stupid move be the NBA and ABC/ESPN.
The league badly needs the Blazers in the NBA Finals. We have the most popular team in the country.
That is very telling. ABC has ed up their promotion of the NBA. I won't be surprised if they try to lowball the NBA for the next contract, threatening to bury coverage on ESPN the same way they've done to the NHL. Hopefully the league is already figuring out how they are going to handle the next network that gets the contract.
Steve Nash for one reason. Amare for another.
The Suns beat the Mavs in 2005, the Mavs beat an Amare-less team in 2006.
I think the Suns defense is getting better. I can't say the Mavs are getting better since they got bounced in the first round, by a team that couldn't even make it past the second round.
To me, the Suns played better defense this year than they have in the past. Are they perfect? No, not by a longshot. But they are improving, and I think it's short-sighted to discount them just because a very good Spurs teams dispatched them in 6.
Why do you think the Mavs would beat the Suns?
I disagree with the Suns playing better D than the Mavs. On just about every statistic you saw, the Mavs were right at the same ranking or better than the Suns. We just simply choked, like we always do because we are weak-minded and just plain stupid at times. But we played a bad opponent that IMO got in their heads by the time the playoffs came along. I really do believe that the error Avery made in game 1 set the tone for the rest of the series. The Mavs are one of the youngest teams in the NBA and they are still one of the most talented teams in the league. Nash is nearing his mid 30's and they barely use the bench. The Mavs aren't done whatsoever. The Mavs are set up to beat the Spurs true. But now it's time to tweak that just a bit, obviously. But Amare or no Amare, the Mavs still defeated them. And in 2005, if Terry didn't have a brain for a yogurt, the Mavs-Suns series is going to game 7 with Amare.
I think Mavs had their chance last year and blew it. Unless the Suns blow up on the off-season, I see no reason why they won't be the number one team in the NBA. Nash is old, but he's NOT slowing down. Not yet, anyway.
Meh, we'll see next year.
The current Suns remind me more and more of the Kings team from a few years back...everything from their choking to their whiny fans. The Suns are going to implode in a similiar fashion when the player's begin to lose hope in their gimmick small ball system as they keep getting bounced out of the playoffs by defensive-minded teams.
And yes I do believe the Nuggs would have taken the Suns in 6/7. Unlike the one-man Lakers, the Nuggets actually have a strong post presence.
I didn't say they would. Someone said that the Nuggets were better than the Suns and you threw the Mavs in there. The Suns played better defense than they have in the past because they got Raja Bell and Nash learned how to flop. The Mavericks were a better defensive team all year long until they started coasting and ran into a hot team that had their number. The Spurs failed to show up for one game against the Suns and fell asleep in the fourth quarter for another. That doesn't scream "very good" to me.
Well there are two or three worthless Kings fans that have been hanging around saying hateful for years. Will UV Ray still be here in a couple of years when his team is no longer relevant, too?
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