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No doubt about it. I don't think it's genetics that cause so many wrestlers to die of heart problems before the age of 40.
Too bad I can't bring him back and kill him again.
No doubt about it. I don't think it's genetics that cause so many wrestlers to die of heart problems before the age of 40.
Eh.
Can't say that I feel that bad about him as I did earlier.
The guy had some hardcore bad demons that were more than likely exaggerated by the steroids.
I dont see how he could kill the child by strangulation.......you know the boy struggled and to see him die in your arms?? WTF!!!!
He completely fits the family annihilator profile:
The Family Annihilator: Fathers That Kill
Damn, talk about Dr Jeckyll and Mr Hyde. Amazing how he was so respected outside the home yet a murderer in waiting inside it.
To me blaming steroids as a major factor would be ridiculous - you didn't see juiced baseball players offing themselves and their families during the roid era. I'm sure it played a part, but there were far deeper demons wallowing around inside this guy's head. I wonder what drove him to it, what the final straw was?
A scenario is not too difficult to think up: his wife tell him she wants a divorce over the phone, he goes home, confrontation, kills her, then kills his child in an act of supposed mercy fitting the annihilator description. He then cannot live with the guilt and kills himself. The only thing that doesn't fit isn't that this is premeditation months in advance.
No !!! He had popularity, a nice home, family, and made at least 500k-1mil a year!!! Man, what could have been better?
Some people are just never satisfied with anything.
A man can have everything and still be completely unstable.No !!! He had popularity, a nice home, family, and made at least 500k-1mil a year!!! Man, what could have been better?
Some people are just never satisfied with anything.
I will never understand how someone could do this.
The more that comes out the more messed up this is. At first it's almost impossible to believe. Prior to this just about everything that had ever been said about Benoit's character would never point to him being capable of this. And yet, listening to the wrestlers recounting his life it's a little easier to believe when you really stop to think about it.
The picture that was painted of him (besides being a loving husband and father) was that professionally everyday he pushed himself harder than anyone else; that he climbed to the heights he reached through an unbending will and drive. The way some talked his passion for wrestling bordered on something religious. It's not impossible to see how a man capable of that kind of intensity could just snap.
I've been a WWE fan on and off for a few years since being a hardcore fan as a kid. The last time I was really interested in watching was during Benoit's championship reign following Wrestlemania XX. The "feel good" factor was similar to Mick Foley's. Here was a guy who had wrestled his way around the world, battered and bruised his body in pursuit of his dream. And without the aid of a catchy gimmick, movie star looks, or hitting a genetic lottery he was finally getting the sort of success that most dedicated fans knew he had deserved for a long time.
It's really hard to put the two pictures side by side of such polar opposites in the same human being.
That's what I think the likliest scenario is. I don't believe it was planned months in advance necessarily, but clearly there was some advance notice - his wife was tied up and held down. That's definitely not a heat of the moment passion killing.
I'm just very sorry for his other two children. What a terrible legacy to inherit. I hope their relationship with their mother is very strong.
Actually...he doesn't.
Benoit had a lot of friends, close friends, long time friends, people that went out of their way to help him and were proud to call him a friend.
He doesn't fit the isolationist aspect of the profile you linked to.
Not to mention the fact that he made a living by getting in his underwear in front of 15,000+ fans every night.
He also worked just about every benefit show for every wrestler/wrestling figure that needed a helping hand.
Benoit had a lot of friends...and he was well liked in his field by his peers.
Fits part of it...yeah, fits it completely? No.
I want to find out what the prescription drugs were that he was on.
I don't think this is just a case of steroid agression, roid rage doesn't last for 3 days.
I agree with this post, and the last time I watched wrestling was when they put the le on Benoit...
I guess somewhere along the way he just lost it, and the normal failsafe triggers that go off when you are about to do something hugely wrong, didn't kick in for him...he just went off the deep end.
The fact that he killed his son a day or so after killing his wife is what I find most disturbing...
Men and Women do cruel things to each other and they can often bring out the worst in each other, even if it's only momentarily, I am sure most of us have been in the kind of relationship that seems to bring out our worst(although I have never understood why people try to make these work). I am not excusing it, but it does happen and you can at least see how it could happenn in a fit of rage or something.
But sitting there after he's killed his wife and deciding to murder an innocent child the next day....to me, any sane man ould have had a trigger kick in that he needed to get help. And there was absolutely no justification for what he was about to do...or the method in which he did it.
Maybe he thought his son was going to be just like him or something and at the point he was so filled with self loathing he just took it out on his child.
Or maybe Easjer was right and he viewed it as a mercy killing...
But somewhere along the way he just lost it...lost his sense of right and wrong, lost his honor.
And then he took the cowards way out so he would never have to face the reprecussions of his actions publicly....
He's innocent until proven guilty but I have no doubts he is a murderer.
Dude everyone knew Owen Hart was the Blue Blazer, he played BB before and even the original mookie told us like 20 times that it was Owen Hart.
Eddie died in 2005 I think, OD'ed i believe.
Listen to Dean Malenko's interview again. He referred to Benoit as a private person with very few close friends. Guerrero, Benoit, and Malenko were very close because of their time in Japan, and while some wrestlers would say they knew Benoit, they were really lockerroom acquaintances. There's nothing that says this type cannot appear normal, placid on the outside, be well-liked, be a good guy who works benefit shows like the Pillman Memorial. If you check out Malenko's interview, the way he talks about him is eerie.
Roid rage. He snapped, strangled his wife, then realized what he had done, and did the rest. They found ing steroids in his house.
He had close friends...Malenko, Gurerro, Owen Hart, when he was younger, Tom Billington, Stu Hart......I mean how many close friends does anyone have? Especially after you get married? More than 4? That's rare I think...if that's the case than just about every middle aged guy I know fits the profile.
As for the rest...I agree, but the profile you linked to classifies that type of murderer as a near social re incapable of forming friendships outside of his family.
That is not Benoit's profile. He had longterm close friendships to serve as a support group....going back 10-20 years. His best friends were those that had known him longest.
That does not fit your profile exactly.
But it does bring up something interesting...
There's no doubt Eddie Gurerro was Benoit's best friend...and Eddie was a great friend to a lot of people, maybe that loss of his best friend and confidant affected Benoit more than anyone realized.
I remember after Eddie died, when Benoit was remembering him he broke down and cried like a baby...he was pretty much inconsolable. And you know...I don't think Benoit was ever the same after Eddie died...his matches never had the same spark.
It's hard for me to believe a guy some were characterizing as a "good guy" could end up doing what this guy did. I think the line is blurred between his real character and the good guy character he portrayed in wrestling.
I don't think anyone can really know what type of character he had when he was basically a paid actor. The reports of him beating up his wife and his ultimate demise tell me more than what could be displayed in a wrestling ring.
Benoit couldn't act to save his life...that's why his American success never matched his success in Japan, where he was legend by the age of 25.
He was the most technically gifted wrestler in the world, but he was boring, he had no personality...no one would pay to watch him because he was so mechanical and methodical in his wrestling.
Those were the criticisms of him.
And yes...I know those sound familiar to Spursfans.
He basicaly played one character for his career...sincere good guy. THey tried to make him a heel and tried to give him a stage presence as good as his in-ring ability(he was probably the best in history at that)...but he couldn't act at all. He was all about his in-ring performance.
Anytime someone died and they wanted someone to speak at a funeral, or wrestle a tribute match, he was always just about the first they came too...and he always said yes. And he was always sincere and articulate when he was asked to do this. Many people thought really highly of this guy...including those that knew him best. And the thing that most said about him is that what you see is what you get...he's the same in person and he is on the stage.
Last edited by whottt; 06-26-2007 at 07:43 PM.
Anyone who kills their kid is a piece of , no matter what their television persona let on. I hate that anyone gave him nice words. He should have his grave spit and pissed on. He shouldn't be given tributes.
They just said that on ECW tonight Vince is going to retract or say something about what Benoit did. Also no more tributes would be on the WWF page or on the shows apparently enlight of what happened.
They also said that his wife was tied up and everything as he went into his own sons' room to kill him....that's sad.
Harsh but I concur.
Yeah...he drug it out for so long..
His little boy was in that house for a day with his mom strangled to death....and then Benoit basically strangled him too...
That's what's so ed up. Those are not the actions of a sane human being...those not realy the actions of an insane human being either. Those are the actions of a cruel and sadistic human being...
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