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Beno could've done himself and the Spurs a big favor by showing up for one of the summerleague teams. Plus we'd actually see how some of these young prospects would fare with a better than marginally talented point guard at the helm.
What I want to know is how a player like Butler is on the outs when Udrih is on the roster? Who is on the Spurs' summerleague team working on his game? That's the real shame.
Beno could've done himself and the Spurs a big favor by showing up for one of the summerleague teams. Plus we'd actually see how some of these young prospects would fare with a better than marginally talented point guard at the helm.
I don't buy that with all the teams that are desperate for a low post scoring big man with literlly none to be had. Spurs may be "desperate" but teams would still be competing against each other to land Butler if he had all this potetnial, particularly when you look at his contract where they basically have a year to look, a year after that at their option and then Bird rights if he pans out.
linkLJUBLJANA, Slovenia (Ticker) -- Slovenia celebrated as one of its own, Beno Udrih, won an NBA le with the San Antonio Spurs.
The applause has now stopped, however, with the guard having told national team coach Ales Pipan he will not play at the EuroBasket in order to prepare for the final year of his contract.
WTF is he doing this summer? You'd think with a contract year upcoming he'd be getting his ass in shape and seeking any venue to show the league he can still play. Tearing up the summerleagues would've been a good first step for him.
If you were looking at the whole picture you'd see that Splitter is a PF, while Butler is a legit center.
You'd also see Butler has a low post game while Splitter doesn't. And you'd put that together with the fact that the Spurs offense, which is built around a low post initiated offense, stagnates whenever Duncan goes out, and realize Butler is a better fit.
Splitter doesn't have jack for post moves, unless you get some good 'shrooms and come up with the idea that offensive rebound putbacks are 'post moves'.
His basketball IQ is about what Elson's is, which combined doesn't equate to what Butler has.
If you were right, teams would be offering us more than a second round pick for Scola, who is considered the best low post player in Europe.
Gotta side with LJ on this one.
And yeah, there is absolutely no reason why Beno shouldn't be playing in summer league. If Amare Stoudemire and Ron Artest could play last year, Beno Udrih can play this year.
I sent White a text.
I guarantee he turns it on in Salt Lake City.
I can see it on the basis of the hassles with Tau over the years if the Spurs opt to drop Scola. Not that I would think it great. But dumping Butler this summer for nothing would be terminally stupid.
Well at least the Spurs won't have to worry about him tearing it up in a contract year and forcing them to give him another contract.
Right now, the most you can get for Butler is an early second round pick and a trade exception. At most you might be able to take back a player and get a late first rounder, but I highly doubt it.
When teams are openly dumping a player like the Spurs are, you are lucky to get a couple pennies for a dollar.
Pop must open up a magnum or two whenever he thinks about what Beno could be versus what Beno is willing to be.
Yeah, way to up the old trade value. The articles and quotes we read should be more along the lines of 'young Spurs bigman is tearing it up in Vegas, but a stacked roster and luxury tax concerns may force the Spurs to lose him'.
It's amazing there isn't more Beno outcry. He's gotten fatter since he got on the Spurs. He complains about being asked to work out after practice. He isn't willing to go to summer league. Beno doesn't really care about anything outside of partying, breakfast tacos, Latinas and cashing his check
And yet when Pop opts to go with a veteran who cares about winning like Nick Van Exel or Jacque Vaughn, the same fans who want Butler shipped out of town complain about Udrih not getting a fair shake.
Classic.
Teams are jumping all over Washington to get the rights to Navarro. I think they just aren't nearly as impressed that Scola's game will translate as well to the NBA. Even Garbajosa, a lesser Euroleague star, was view3ed as having a better NBA game I believe.
Teams are all Washington for Navarro's rights. I don't think they view Scola's game translating well to the NBA or have serious concerns as do many here. Even Garbajosa, a lesser Euroleague star, wa viewed as a better NBA prospect because of his ability on D and shooting form distance.
How come most of the posters show so little respect for the Spurs DECIDERS who have given us 3 les since 2003? Guess what? Ludden's columns are based on off the record conversations, not who he quotes. You need to read between the lines because most good jounalists know that is the way the system works. It sounds to me that Mahinmi is in and Butler is out. If it works out in reverse so be it. It is less then intelligent to deride the messenger.
I think Scola's buyout troubles might be a reason. In addition to interest from the Bulls, there was at least one article which stated that multiple teams were interested in him.
Butler is the only true center on the Spurs which is apparently in today's NBA a mortal sin.
His buyout is murky but at this point it seems like a contract offer similar to what Oberto got or even Garbajosa would work with him absorbing the buyout to get to the NBA. Maybe it's the cost plus what they'd have to give up to the Spurs but I think a large part for all teams is whether he can play in the NBA or be another Eurodud.
Navarro has a buyout too.
I'm going to guess that Navarro's contract's buyout clause is a bit more defined than Scola's.
because we painful miss 2 more.
Personally, I think it has more to do with the Spurs perceived atttiude toward players- who, if the Spurs don't want them, seem to have Scarlett letters on their chests. The Spurs tear down their value publicly to appease fans and explain why they are not on the team or why they want to trade them and then can't get anything for them.
So far Scola has been portrayed as stupid for signing his deal, angry about being told to work on things, greedy for wanting Matt Bonner type money, and not a good fit on the team.
Butler is fat and lazy, but then when he plays well, he's in need of more playing time. It has already been determined that he is damned if he does and damned if he doesn't. He is in the summer league working on his game and trying to show the Spurs what he can do, but they just see it as a means to increase the chance of trading him.
Not to make excuses- repeat, NOT an acceptable excuse, but I think with Beno that is part of what happened, that notion that it didn't really matter what you do after a certain point. If you play well, it is ONLY to boost your trade value not your possible standing with the team. If Beno plays in the summer league- it ups his chance of getting traded- that is all. It will not make him the back-up PG on the Spurs.
Yes, becuase Malik, Nazr, even the much beloved Rasho who'll be seeing less and less playing time, have proven to be cornerstones of their new teams when dealt. I'd say the Spurs made the right call in spades on all three of those players and the teams they've gone to have proven it
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